A day without immigrants

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And you're ASSuming such organizations (with a "z", not an "s", you Oxfordian english speaking/writing non-American), have no agenda in deliberately skewing the data of how many illegals are out there?
Sorry that my English isn't perfect, but if this is the only real way to attack my post, I can live with that ;)



Even IF these organizations have an agenda, you can expect it and add some calculations to get a more realistic number...
Or you ask organizations with a counter agenda. Then you compare both data and take the average :)
 

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I was under the impression that most illegals got paid under the table in cold hard cash.

How does income tax (social security, medicare, state income tax) get deducted from that?
we get paid with checks, we go to work like normal people
 
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your impression is not fact......
from the CBO study i cited earlier:
Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 70 percent and 80 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes.
yes but the racist choose what they wanna hear
 
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I got a better idea....why don't they try to UN-fuck their home countries before leeching off the US?

They want a better future for their kids....fine! they can do it in their country.

They want more security, fine! They can do it in their country.
Well, you were asking for reasons, why people are willing to pay higher tax...

But now you want to talk about the reasons for their move to America...

Security and a better future for their kids at home? Sure they would do it, if they could. But America does a really good job to prevent improvements in their home country... so deal with it that they are coming ;)
 

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i didn't work today, i won't let my people down, undocumented and unafraid
Sorry that my English isn't perfect, but if this is the only real way to attack my post, I can live with that ;)



Even IF these organizations have an agenda, you can expect it and add some calculations to get a more realistic number...
Or you ask organizations with a counter agenda. Then you compare both data and take the average :)

Are you an American?


That is the point I was trying to make.

If you're not an American, in my opinion, you don't really have a grasp of what it is like in the work-a-day US lifestyle.

Your arguments are invalid.
 

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Well, you were asking for reasons, why people are willing to pay higher tax...

But now you want to talk about the reasons for their move to America...

Security and a better future for their kids at home? Sure they would do it, if they could. But America does a really good job to prevent improvements in their home country... so deal with it that they are coming ;)

Ahhh....makes perfect sense...America is fucking up their Third World shithole, so now they want to bring their Third World shithole here.

Okay, got it!
 

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Are you an American?


That is the point I was trying to make.
nope... one view in my profile and you would notice, I'm not American.
If you're not an American, in my opinion, you don't really have a grasp of what it is like in the work-a-day US lifestyle.

Your arguments are invalid.
why?
Because you can't argue against them?
 
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I was under the impression that most illegals got paid under the table in cold hard cash.

How does income tax (social security, medicare, state income tax) get deducted from that?

The employer collects a social security number from the "illegal" and pays them EXACTLY the same way they pay their other employees. They avoid the issue because the IRCA of 1986 only required that the employee certify the information. It doesn't require the employer to verify the authenticity of the documents.

Employers do NOT keep that much of cash on hand in order to pay illegal immigrants under the table.

They also pay sales tax and gas tax and every other tax.

Lastly, those that save enough, go out of their way to pay property tax and/or income tax. They last thing they want is raising a red flag that might attract ICE.
 
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nope... one view in my profile and you would notice, I'm not American.
why?
Because you can't argue against them?
don't waste your time, racism is at its peak, they don't wanna listen reasons, they just disqualify you, they have no arguments
 

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don't waste your time, racism is at its peak, they don't wanna listen reasons, they just disqualify you, they have no arguments
I know they don't...

But I think it's our job to rub it in their face that they don't have any arguements ;)
 

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I know they don't...

But I think it's our job to rub it in their face that they don't have any arguements ;)
that why im here too, undocumented, unafraid and unapologetic
 

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The employer collects a social security number from the "illegal" and pays them EXACTLY the same way they pay their other employees. They avoid the issue because the IRCA of 1986 only required that the employee certify the information. It doesn't require the employer to verify the authenticity of the documents.

Employers do NOT keep that much of cash on hand in order to pay illegal immigrants under the table.

They also pay sales tax and gas tax and every other tax.

Lastly, those that save enough, go out of their way to pay property tax and/or income tax. They last thing they want is raising a red flag that might attract ICE.

So you're saying, unequivocally, that no employer here in the States has ever hired an illegal and paid them cash (without deducting FITW, SS, and Medicare)?
 

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Anyone who is not a Native American is an immigrant - as were Donald Trump's ancestors!
If it were not for the "the others", the USA would be what it is today - my ancestors came from Italy - the backbone of our country
is those who helped make America great. THANKS!
 
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So you're saying, unequivocally, that no employer here in the States has ever hired an illegal and paid them cash (without deducting FITW, SS, and Medicare)?
See!!! they choose what they wanna hear
 
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