A day without immigrants

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You argue that illegals don't drive down labor costs and then go on to argue that prices would increase if the illegals disappear.

That is called liberalism, a severe mental illness. Get help.

Right. Loved how Stormfront kept digging that giant illogical hole of magical liberal math. Boy was determined. Hell, nothing was going to stand in his way of not making a single rational point.

I suppose we could give him a participation trophy. If for anything, being an amusing conversational piece.
 
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So who are you going to blame if tRump has his way and gets rid of all "illegals" and businesses are then pressed to increase their wages in order to attract American workers? When the price of strawberries goes to $10 a carton are you prepared to pay? You crybabies on the right want prices to stay down. You can't have it both ways.
But who is being hurt here? Sadly, the American looking for that low skilled work that an illegal will take below minimum wage. So much for then for the argument to raise minimum wage. Keep supporting the illegals. They're taking jobs from those Americans who might gladly take that job . You can't have it both ways.
 

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... Legal immigrants should be happy we allowed them into the US...

There's that pesky "we" again, @BULLDOG00... Is that the Royal "we", or just your run of the mill White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant "we"? Since all native born Americans are descendants of immigrants, from other continents, who exactly is your preferred "we", BULLDOG?... Tell us who you mean by "we"... Meaning, the "we" that in your opinion would be judging who would and who wouldn't be allowed to live in the USA. Tell us who you think qualify to be those "judges"

A/B
 
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LOOOOL I haven't read the thread but from the title I KNOW it's going to be white people (who are actual fucking immigrants to the Americas too!) talking down to other immigrants... People just get dumber and dumber as they grow such stupid idiologies and assumptions of one another. Come on people... Focus on keeping your communities free of toxic hatred and allowing growth through meaningful connections and discussions. Just sayin lol
 
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There is that pesky "we" again, @BULLDOG00... Is that the Royal "we", or just your run of the mill White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant "we"? Since all native born Americans are descendants of immigrants, from other continents, who exactly is your preferred "we", BULLDOG?... Tell us who you mean by "we".

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Immigrants? I am the descendant of colonists, not immigrants. Those colonists then went on to create the governments in the US and Canada. WE the people, under or limited form of self government, are the rightful rulers of this land and will remain so.

You are basically making an argument that the United States has no right to exist or have borders. A sovereign nation has the right control it's borders.
 

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... You are basically making an argument that the United States has no right to exist or have borders...

Nonsense... I made no argument for anything other than asking you to define who you mean when you say "we"... You sorta dodged answering that, but, you made yourself fairly clear, that you mean only people of European descent... 'Nuff said.

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Nonsense... I made no argument for anything other than asking you to define who you mean when you say "we"... You dodged answering that, But, I get it that you mean only people of European descent... 'Nuff said.

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You do know that our Congress makes the immigration laws, correct? Our immigration laws decide who is allowed here. If you don't like our immigration laws talk to your Representatives and Senators. People can come here but they need to do so legally. We are a government of WE the people. Talk to your reps.
 
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But who is being hurt here? Sadly, the American looking for that low skilled work that an illegal will take below minimum wage. So much for then for the argument to raise minimum wage. Keep supporting the illegals. They're taking jobs from those Americans who might gladly take that job . You can't have it both ways.
Americans aren't taking those jobs so should they not be done?
 
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But who is being hurt here? Sadly, the American looking for that low skilled work that an illegal will take below minimum wage. So much for then for the argument to raise minimum wage. Keep supporting the illegals. They're taking jobs from those Americans who might gladly take that job . You can't have it both ways.
Taking our jobs hahaha!!! roll up your sleeves, if you come over to work with us in the fields, send your wife to clean hotels
 

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One of my friends is married to a Persian woman - her family was persecuted by the Iranian regime and they moved to Canada. She lawfully moved here for medical school. She is a successful starting doctor working for the university she attended in the states. My friend and her were married about a year and a half ago and he is a US citizen. Her family still lives in Canada. She does not have a Green Card. Based on the current state of affairs, she cannot travel to Canada to see her family and her family cannot travel here to see her. She pays taxes and is a meaningful contributor to her community. America is really great again.
 

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The true cost of expelling 'illegal' immigrants as explained by the Editirial Board of The New York Times:

The American Action Forum last year estimated that expelling all unauthorized immigrants, and keeping them out, would cost $400 billion to $600 billion, and reduce the gross domestic product by $1 trillion.

Mr. Trump describes immigrants as rapist-murderer-terrorists, but what they really are is a pillar of the American economy, producing a net benefit of about $50 billion since 1990. Farms and restaurants, hotels, manufacturers, retail businesses — all sectors of the economy benefit directly or indirectly from immigrant labor.

As for taxes, unauthorized immigrants pay them, and if they work off the books, they pay into the system without taking out. They don’t collect Social Security and don’t qualify for food stamps or other benefit programs. They pay sales and property taxes, and since they are generally younger and healthier than the native-born population, they strengthen the safety net. The Social Security Administration estimates that unauthorized immigrations pay about $13 billion a year into Social Security and get only about $1 billion back.

It’s ridiculous to have to explain this to the president, but: If you take a population of 11 million people out of the country, or force them deeper underground, the economy will not be healthier. If you have to find foster parents for millions of abandoned American children of deported immigrants, society will not be stronger. Shrink our immigrant-rich economic sectors, send all that entrepreneurial energy to Canada and Mexico — America will not be better off.

Pull immigrants and refugees out of the declining Rust and Bible Belt cities and towns that they have been repopulating and revitalizing. Bleed the immigrant populations of New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. Who benefits? Not America.

While we wait for Mr. Kelly to achieve his boss’s bleak vision, we will have created a population of increasingly vulnerable, exploited noncitizens and Dreamer youths whose educations hit a dead end after high school. All that intellectual and economic potential, the prospect of rising incomes and tax payments, will have been squandered.

But squandering is the whole point. The “deportation force” may or may not hit its 11 million target, the wall may or may not stretch from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico, but terror and intimidation have already spread through immigrant communities. And this is what the nativists who have been schooling the president want.

The larger costs to the economy, and the dire human toll, do not concern them.
 
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European colonists were illegal immigrants according to the law of native Americans.

I sincerely hope for you that you are just trolling.
no he is not intentionally trolling he is plain ignorant