Meanwhile while you are busy on google; Are you happy with the state of this country?
History will conclude that the defining element of the George W. Bush administration was not Iraq or tax cuts, but lies and contempt for the democratic process. As the Bush administration mercifully comes to an end, we are only now discovering that the President ordered the CIA to fabricate evidence to support a war against Iraq and suppress evidence that Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction. Which is why I believe Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (of the great state of Rhode Island) hit the nail on the head when he said:
the irresponsibility and mismanagement of this Administration will go down in our history as among the darkest moments our government has witnessed. It rots the very fiber of democracy when our government is put to these uses. We do not yet know all the damage that has been done.
It is precisely because of the fact that we do not know the damage that has been done that Nicholas Kristof is right in calling for a Truth Commission
For five years, I have attempted to catalog the countless lies and deceits of this administration (albeit sporadically and only on a high level after the 2004 election) and have been appalled to find what I thought would be a limited endeavor is something that far exceeds the ability of one person or organization to document.
The Declaration of Independence provides that “Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed” History will long remember that for the past eight years, the Bush administration usurped that power by routinely thwarting the people’s ability to exercise informed consent as detailed on this site’s many pages.
I had considered taking him up on this challenge, but:
- Posts are limited to 10,000 characters in length, and I could easily exceed that. I'd like to know that the time I spent on citations and links would be a worthwhile expenditure of my time -- yet, I've not been convinced that this challenge is sincere:
- Despite starinvestor's claim that this is a "fair" challenge, he's already failed to live up to it:
- His response to Domisoldo's legitimate concern about alienating our allies was "Keep the faith dude". It wasn't"something that is more positive or more advantageous"
- His response to Garth33's concern that "almost [a] trillion dollars" was spent in Iraq was to quibble that $600,000,000,000 isn't the same thing as "almost a trillion dollars". It wasn't "something that is more positive or more advantageous".
- His response to Garth's concern over the death toll in Iraq was to hypothesize that more lives might have been saved than lost -- a guess that he himself admits can't be quantified. It wasn't "something that is more positive or more advantageous".
- He's responded with personal attacks, calling centrists "outcasts and gypsies", and attacking hot-rod's "mental capacity". What we haven't seen yet is the alleged point-by-point comparison of Bush's positive contributions with his negative contributions that starinvestor promised in the opening of the thread.
Do you seriously believe the physical removal of GWB from the White House will instantly erase the damage he has caused, directly and indirectly?
Many of his judicial picks, for instance, will not be up for disposal for years to come, not to mention the jurisprudence they are leaving behind.
The level of the nation's indebtedness will hurt us, our kids and grandkids.
etc., etc.
You got me on this one.
I don't know why you people pick up on starinvestor's crap and run with it. Why the hell would you want to get in an argument about the Bush administration now? Everyone agrees the dude's mentally checked out, and he can't do anything to turn around his breathtakingly incompetent term in office. Period. End of sentence. Now let's talk about dicks again.
So here's the deal. I'm going to go way, way, way out on a limb here and tell you guys that I actually like star. I mean, he's a fucked up rabid-ass Republican with apparently no political sense and no emotional conscience (to our way of thinking) whatsoever, but he's also smart and funny and not afraid to take us on, and he's real.
I like that in a guy.
So shoot me.
But please don't take me off your friend's list. Even I extend the olive branch once in a while.
As to the posts above, I thought they merited rereading.