A false equivalency: There's bashing, and then there's bashing.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by mindseye, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. mindseye

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    In another thread, starinvestor wrote:

    I reject and rebut the notion that our side's attacks are comparable to your side's.

    Have we been critical of the present administration? Absolutely, and with good reasons. But our criticism has largely been tied to the actual political decisions and actions of the administration: condemnation of torture, of cronyism, of the abuse of executive privilege and of signing statements, etc.

    There have been some exceptions -- criticisms that aren't political in nature, but personal: the occasional link to the site that had pictures of Bush and similarly-posed pictures of chimpanzees, and more recently, the attacks on Sarah Palin's wardrobe, beauty pageant background, and other characteristics that weren't directly related to her level of preparation for national office.

    Contrast this with these attacks on Democrats that don't relate to actual political decisions and actions:

    Then there's the incessant namecalling:

    The namecalling extends to members of this site, collectively:

    as well as individually (I'm choosing not to link to these specific examples.)

    I anticipate that someone will take me on with a counter-rebuttal and a litany of the attacks on Republicans -- including some of my own -- that mirror these. I don't anticipate that anyone will be able to show a quantitative equivalence between the two sides.

    Perhaps in a later thread, I'll also rebut the claim that there are only a "handful" of conservatives around here...
     
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    I would simply cut and paste any of Sargon20's posts, but I'm too lazy to address this thread with any more than this sentence
     
  3. tripod

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    OH SNAP!!!!!

    You go boy... tell it LIKE IT IS!!!!!
     
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    Jingoism seems to go with the cultural territory of the Right.
     
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    What's truly cute is that on the very same page as this thread are posts cheering an injury to Ann Coulter and hoping Bush and Chaney are raped in jail. Calling Barrack "Barry" isn't allowed yet referring to Bush as Zippy is A-OK and anyone who posts anything remotely positive about the current admin is nearly always flamed and labeled as a crackpot Limbaugh-worshiping bible thumper.
     
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    that would be zippy w. ..................to you
     
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    I prefer Zippy-B. It just has more flow.
     
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    yeah it's more street................lol
     
  9. Industrialsize

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    I prefer "shrub"
     
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    were anyone inclined to do so, there would be no great difficulty

    what is indisputable is the qualitative character to the postings on the liberal side

    one simply has to review a few posts from some of the same boarders who have posted on this thread to show a distinct issue of mental & emotional imbalance displayed
     
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    I've often thought so myself, but considered it uncivil to say so in a thread about the difference between political and personal attacks. It's awfully big of you to admit it, though, Nick.
     
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    I agree with your points Mindseye and I know where you're coming from. I've been trying to understand the deep seated hatred of Obama that some members have expressed and I keep coming back to one thing: it's because he's African American. I'm sure I'll get flamed for making that statement but to me it's the thing that is there that isn't articulated because people know what will happen. Obama hasn't really done anything to justify the viciousness and consistency of the attacks here. Whereas, one could write ad naseum about Bush's actions during his 8 years as presidency.

    We know that there are many people who dismissed Obama simply because of his ethnicity and these people simply have clung onto any piece of negative news to reinforce their beliefs. So yeah, it's unsettling to keep seeing all of these pieces pop up all the time but then I remember that Obama won despite them and will continue to succeed in spite of them. They are tiny voice without any power behind them so far. If Obama becomes the president that Bush is, they will have some real ammunition. Until then, they are just, well, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
     
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    Also, the OP is a bit ironic in light of statements like this:

     
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    I really think you are way off on this, Hulk. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Obama. Plenty. Race isn't one of them. Maybe in some saloon in Hazard, Kentucky you will hear something about race. I couldn't disagree more on the race issue.

    That said, I'm not saying I will never like him. But I don't right now. So far, I'm pleased with his economic team choices. The rest of his assignments have me scratching my head and wondering if this guy can tell the truth about anything.

    The closest thing I see to a racist in this thing is Michelle Obama.
     
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    You have me utterly lost, starinvestor.
    Are you saying that, based on some of his appointments, you can call Obama a liar?
    Do you have cases in point?
     
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    Please elaborate... this should be interesting. :biggrin1:
     
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    :33: think I know what he's referring to, but I don't want to assume ..
     
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    Apparently the result of this last election was not enough for mindseye. Maybe this fantasy ridden rant made him feel better? Probably not.
     
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    I don't want to hijack this thread and go down that road. In fact, I'll probably open another thread that examines Obama's growing list of lies.
     
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