A mouth is just a mouth question for guys?

[Daisy]

So we're still picking apart FLM? I thought this topic was about guys and oral sex in general. I think if it were MY life being debated and picked apart it would be extremely bothersome, as I'm sure it would be for anyone. Even those who say they dont give a shit what anyone thinks. OP is entitled to her opinion but continuing to make this thread about FLM is not very nice. I would think Hilaire would agree with me.

 

[Bbucko]

I have met FLM at the NYC Meet-N-Greet about two months ago; I detected no abnormalities or distorted personality disorders. He's a sweet, kind and genuinely compassionate man and we hit it off really well.

Of course, I've been called all kinds of things here, too, so maybe I'm biased.

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

So we're still picking apart FLM? I thought this topic was about guys and oral sex in general. I think if it were MY life being debated and picked apart it would be extremely bothersome, as I'm sure it would be for anyone. Even those who say they dont give a shit what anyone thinks. OP is entitled to her opinion but continuing to make this thread about FLM is not very nice. I would think Hilaire would agree with me.

Saving that Bbucko just posted about the subject, I don't think the discussion is currently specifically about FLM at all actually. It's about how NEWREBA's post about FLM provoked such strong responses from some members, and why that was the case.

In my opinion it caused offense because it was excessively judgemental of another member and on a site like this where people come to talk openly and freely about their sex lives and sexuality and value the openmindedness of the place, when someone is extremely judgemental of someone else's sex life that provokes strong reactions, in real life also but especially on LSPG.

I would agree with you actually which is why I've studiously attempted to direct the discussion onto general principles and ideas rather than specific members. You'll probably note that if you take the time to read my posts in this thread.

 

[B_Hung Jon]

So we're still picking apart FLM? I thought this topic was about guys and oral sex in general. I think if it were MY life being debated and picked apart it would be extremely bothersome, as I'm sure it would be for anyone. Even those who say they dont give a shit what anyone thinks. OP is entitled to her opinion but continuing to make this thread about FLM is not very nice. I would think Hilaire would agree with me.

I of course would disagree with what you say Seaside. If you check back on the thread, the OP didn't single out FLM at all. He actually just responded like anyone else to the post. Actually he responded to what I had written. I think maybe he's become the focus of the discussion because he may represent one extreme point of view or behavior. I do think he's pertinent to the discussion but not in personal terms. In a sense he sort of put himself in the middle of the discussion. Just my opinion.

 

[maxcok]

I of course would disagree with what you say Seaside. If you check back on the thread, the OP didn't single out FLM at all.

Really Jon? Maybe you need to check back on the thread. This came completely out of the blue:

Hmmm? Fleshlightmouth, I think you do protest too much. I just checked out your links and I would say that you are definitely contradicting yourself. Why would you have so many videos of you sucking so many people? Are these guys your lovers or boyfriends? Pardon me, but you seem a tad bit compulsive to me. Is this part of your lifestyle or what? Below is your ad, and I quote.

Huge Cocks would choose FleshlightMouth!
Coming soon to an area near you

Skilled deepthroater for extra long and thick cocks, and HUGE shooters!
Nice guy with very talented throat, looking for XXL hung guys who love to get sucked and make new deepthroat videos with me.
Thanks for all your comments and friend requests!


Sorry but I couldn't bring myself to actually watch any of your videos. Scary stuff.


http://www.lpsg.org/blogs/fleshlightmouth/

FleshlightMouth's Videos

Well yes, I'm very much judging you, Fleshlightmouth. I think putting ads online or wherever trying to find guys to suck indiscriminately in different parts of the country is at least psychologically abnormal. Why would any well-adjusted person want to do such a thing as a way of life? I don't consider this a personal attack. It's rather a response to an activity that I see as emotionally destructive and de-humanizing. However I have learned one thing and that is that men like you exist which I wasn't really aware of until I posed this question. I just don't think sexually obsessive behavior is very enlightening, not to mention the health risks for both parties.

 

[B_Hung Jon]

Really Jon? Maybe you need to check back on the thread. This came completely out of the blue:

Maxcok, you need to go back further on the thread. FLM responded to a post of mine that he took as criticism of him (which it was indirectly although I didn't necessarily have him in mind). He made the first statement. Also I understand that the OP didn't know of him at all until he posted. Also I would add that his profile is not exactly in the most "sensitive" style. I would say he's from the "I'm a cocksucker and proud of it" point of view which may be shocking to some people. For instance I've never met a guy or girl who travels around the country just looking for dicks to suck. Maybe I'm not as open-minded as others on this site. :biggrin1:

 

[Daisy]

I would agree with you actually which is why I've studiously attempted to direct the discussion onto general principles and ideas rather than specific members. You'll probably note that if you take the time to read my posts in this thread.

I think you thought I was being sarcastic when I said I thought you'd agree with me, but I wasn't.

 

[SilverTrain]

Wow, it's difficult to believe I'm reading this stuff in 2011.

 

[iluvbigheads]

wow. this is quite the debate...is FLM a deviant little dicksucker whore who loves to film himself OR is the OP just a big a ho for spreading her legs on here? There is so much of this on the internet, I mean thousands engage in this kind of conduct. So maybe EVERYONE has to understand that even all us here with profiles, apparently enjoying it, to whatever end...is on that continuum of deviancy. I mean, god forbid your mother or father find out you have dirty little online secrets or cause yourself embarrassment or misery in your own real community over it, I mean it's not nice when you're known as a whore - people start to gossip and all this. Our what about work for example, being investigated by a forensic specialist or even worse the police. The list goes on and on. I guess from what I know, I would say anyone putting a video online or nude images should always ask of themselves, what will happen if someone found this material, whom you would never want knowing about it (and I don't care about you and no faces - you have an IP address)...for the most part, I think people just get off on that excitement of people around the world looking at you. Someone out there probably just loves starting at loose pussy shots or even FLM sucking big black dick. LOL

Now, I also have to say I seen a couple of those hot videos of his, but Christ, their cocks never seem to be hard or have to jerk themselves off to get off right LOL. Now, I like to suck cock, but I wouldn't go as far as filming it and putting it on here or any such website. So, you know, FLM does it one way. Like a lot of women, I can't be sucking off no broke ass guy, sometimes I like to go for dinners and shopping or have big parties at our country estate...ferfucksakes lol

I have just met guys from work and school and just got along good and sooner or later they were wanting to be sucked off and they were each a good size cock, I mean it wasn't really about their size, but in the end I was pleasantly surprised. Horny little fuckers always over here wanting mouth. And you know what, years go by and they are still around and they really do love me for me now, not just cause I suck them the best they ever had...that's just the way it is. So, we cook and eat and have a nice time, but meanwhile, pawing me outside at the BBQ while I'm trying to cook meat. And I'm like, I'm trying to cook a god dam steak here! Would you like another drink babe? I have to keep checking that meat to make sure it's done just how you like it. Lathering on sause.

So, I would like to ask them all, if you love posting your videos online - I mean, I will be honest and say, that I like looking at it sure. But is a guy or girl out there doing it truly dateable? I don't think I would ever get involved with a guy like FLM cause he just won't stop going around sucking cock. Like, sooner or later, don't you get sick of that shit and just want a good loving relationship with ONE big cock and not the whole country cause lord, you been out sucking off all over North America LOL? Or would a good upstanding guy looking at the OP's legs spread open for the world to see might only see her as a hole in the end? I think the larger part of society out there sees what I mean. All little deviancies.

Anywho, you can go and say what you want...but if I'm a little slut Christmas whore or whatever else you wanna call me haha...well you're a net whore for being on here. I don't care if you're here for support, you're on here!

 

[GangShowers]

I definitely can't get head from someone I don't think is sexy. It's just gross.

 

[B_Hung Jon]

Of course it's OK to say something negative about someone else, but if you do you run the risk of them saying something negative back, you may also run the risk of other people saying negative things too.

My posts in this thread have been purely as a member, I'm not making any rules here, I'm just saying that if you describe someone else's sex life as "psychologically abnormal", "[Mal]-adjusted", "emotionally destructive", "De-humanising" and "sexually obsessive", you are bound to cop some pretty strong reactions. Because in and of themselves those are extremely strong criticisms.

In this case what you got was a chorus of "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" and "judge not lest ye be judged" couched in terms which matched the pitch of your own comments.

So if you want to be critical by all means go ahead, but do so in the full knowledge that being critical, especially excessively so will garner some pretty strong criticism in response.

In my own view I suspect you made comments you perhaps did not suspect would be either as hurtful to the person you aimed them at, nor as controversial to others reading them.

I don't mind being honest about making comments that may appear "hurtful". People have certainly made negative comments on this thread and others about me which I accept. I have the right then to say what I find extremely unattractive about certain people, and not just their appearance but their mind-set and attitude as well. I pretty much completely agree with the OP's opinions although I wouldn't have used such politically incorrect language as she did. Her honesty and impulsive emotions got her into trouble.

 

[rayray]

This thread started to resemble a Jerry Springer episode awhile back..I'm just sayin...

 

[maxcok]

Wow! People certainly have strong feelings about this topic, or maybe I should say, certain people's ideas or feelings about it.

People have strong feelings about people condemning other people and passing moral judgement on them for being sexually libertine, especially here, especially from those who "live in glass houses", as Hilaire pointed out.

I have noticed one obvious thing and that is this: self-identified gay guys are extremely defensive about my reactions to posts. I'm wondering if my reactions are perceived as homophobic or especially critical concerning gay guy's sexual practices? I've noticed that it's practically all gay guys who have supported FleshlightMouth's attitudes and practices.

Guess what? Most self-identified "straight" guys are too busy defending their rigorously maintained straight identity to defend a gay cocksucker. Surprise, surprise. I can't help noticing your post came quickly after mine, the strongest rebuke of your attack on FLM, and after you were absent from your thread for some length of time. I wonder if you presume to put me in your generalized 'gay guy' camp? Not that I have anything to deny, but you will notice I haven't declared my sexual orientation either. Nevertheless, I'm going to presume your post was largely in direct response to mine.

I don't know why you're trying to make this into a gay vs. straight thing. Contrary to your erroneous conclusions and popular stereotypes about "gay guys' sexual practices", the truth of the matter is men in general are sexual opportunists, however they identify themselves. Regardless of what they may say, I can tell you unequivocally there are many, many self-identified "straight" men who gladly accept and even seek out blowjobs from people they don't like (more often than not in secret from other men and/or prostitutes), people they don't know, and in the case of gloryholes, people they can't even see. So yes, to them a mouth is a mouth, and a warm willing wet hole is just that. There are also interestingly enough many, many self-identified "straight" men who are cock obsessed, who just want to suck cocks and get fucked by them, and have no interest whatsoever in knowing the men attached. In my observation, this behavior is much more common among these so-called "straight" men than self-identified gay men, who are not by definition nearly so inclined to hide their true identities and their "dirty deeds", who might actually (gasp) date a guy they're getting their rocks off with. This board is crawling with "straight" practitioners of this phenomenon. Here are a couple recent threads where the subject came up: Sucking obsession .Can str8 guys say they love dick?

I have also noticed that most "straight" guys have less of, what I'd call, a sexist view which is an interesting surprise to me.

I strongly disagree. Again, contrary to popular stereotype, gay men do not generally "hate women". On the contrary, gay men are generally more respectful of women than straight men, unless (generally speaking) a straight man is trying to "get some". This has been a topic of some discussion on this board. One has only to look at how women are portrayed in straight porn to get a sense of how "straight" guys relate to women in their sexual fantasies. Many of the most outspoken feminists on this board are gay men, Hilaire and Bucko being notable among several others. I have on occasion stepped up to the plate myself.

I have to say that I'm somewhat of a novice when it comes to gay or bi men's sexual practices so I have been really surprised by what I've seen and heard here. I've never seen a profile like FleshlightMouth's before, so I have to say that I was really shocked by it. I guess I'd also say that I'm no prude. I'm not moralistic or religious. For me the "mouth is just a mouth" idea is comparable to" a pussy is just a pussy", where the woman is relegated to some sub-human position. For me it's more about human dignity and worth.

Did you comprehend any of my post, which directly preceded and presumably prompted yours? What exactly is the problem if all participants are happy and getting what they want out of the exchange? How is that dehumanizing? What does this have to do specifically with "gay and bi men's sexual practices"? Why do you insist on projecting your own sense of morality and dignity on others?

In short, as I read this and your subsequent posts you continue to criticize other people's sexual practices and attitudes, albeit in a more qualified, oblique and understated manner. I for one have grown tired of your passive-aggressive protestations of innocence; your "I'm just here to learn" mantra rings increasingly hollow.
I think there are ulterior motives behind your disingenuous words. I think you are here to criticize and condemn.

But hey, I'm just "expressing an opinion". :smile:

 

[xmarksbreakdownx]

oral sex, yes. anyone is acceptable, looks and such do not matter. but full on sex, it does. I like to atleast care for the person a little bit.

 

[B_subgirrl]

Wow! People certainly have strong feelings about this topic, or maybe I should say, certain people's ideas or feelings about it. I have noticed one obvious thing and that is this: self-identified gay guys are extremely defensive about my reactions to posts. I'm wondering if my reactions are perceived as homophobic or especially critical concerning gay guy's sexual practices? I've noticed that it's practically all gay guys who have supported FleshlightMouth's attitudes and practices. I have also noticed that most "straight" guys have less of, what I'd call, a sexist view which is an interesting surprise to me. I have to say that I'm somewhat of a novice when it comes to gay or bi men's sexual practices so I have been really surprised by what I've seen and heard here. I've never seen a profile like FleshlightMouth's before, so I have to say that I was really shocked by it. I guess I'd also say that I'm no prude. I'm not moralistic or religious. For me the "mouth is just a mouth" idea is comparable to" a pussy is just a pussy", where the woman is relegated to some sub-human position. For me it's more about human dignity and worth.

In that case, I'd better speak up and say that I agree with hilaire, max and anyone else who's disagreed with your posts regarding FLM. If it is all between consenting adults, there's nothing at all wrong with the sexual practises he chooses to engage in, and everything wrong with your response to him.

 

[jshine868]

I agree with the general response so far. Id let both guys and girls suck my dick if they were good looking. If there was an ugly girl wanting to suck me off Id refuse, while if a good looking guy gave me the vibe, id let him suck me. Regardless of gender, if they get me hard, they can have their rewards.

Holy crap my sentiments exactly! :smile:

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

I think you thought I was being sarcastic when I said I thought you'd agree with me, but I wasn't.

Ah well my bad :wink:

 

[enderwiggen88]

For me, they can't be repulsive. I am generally pretty open minded, so as long as they don't have an odor or resemble Quazimoto, chances are that if they wanna blow me, I'll let them. I mean... once I lay back and they're sucking away, it feels pretty good regardless of gender. Guys in my opinion are the best cock suckers though. So if I ever want a random blow job I go looking for a guy. I don't want a relationship with a guy though. I'm just not interested.

 

[NEWREBA]

People have strong feelings about people condemning other people and passing moral judgement on them for being sexually libertine, especially here, especially from those who "live in glass houses", as Hilaire pointed out.

Guess what? Most self-identified "straight" guys are too busy defending their rigorously maintained straight identity to defend a gay cocksucker. Surprise, surprise. I can't help noticing your post came quickly after mine, the strongest rebuke of your attack on FLM, and after you were absent from your thread for some length of time. I wonder if you presume to put me in your generalized 'gay guy' camp? Not that I have anything to deny, but you will notice I haven't declared my sexual orientation either. Nevertheless, I'm going to presume your post was largely in direct response to mine.

I don't know why you're trying to make this into a gay vs. straight thing. Contrary to your erroneous conclusions and popular stereotypes about "gay guys' sexual practices", the truth of the matter is men in general are sexual opportunists, however they identify themselves. Regardless of what they may say, I can tell you unequivocally there are many, many self-identified "straight" men who gladly accept and even seek out blowjobs from people they don't like (more often than not in secret from other men and/or prostitutes), people they don't know, and in the case of gloryholes, people they can't even see. So yes, to them a mouth is a mouth, and a warm willing wet hole is just that. There are also interestingly enough many, many self-identified "straight" men who are cock obsessed, who just want to suck cocks and get fucked by them, and have no interest whatsoever in knowing the men attached. In my observation, this behavior is much more common among these so-called "straight" men than self-identified gay men, who are not by definition nearly so inclined to hide their true identities and their "dirty deeds", who might actually (gasp) date a guy they're getting their rocks off with. This board is crawling with "straight" practitioners of this phenomenon. Here are a couple recent threads where the subject came up: Sucking obsession .Can str8 guys say they love dick?

I strongly disagree. Again, contrary to popular stereotype, gay men do not generally "hate women". On the contrary, gay men are generally more respectful of women than straight men, unless (generally speaking) a straight man is trying to "get some". This has been a topic of some discussion on this board. One has only to look at how women are portrayed in straight porn to get a sense of how "straight" guys relate to women in their sexual fantasies. Many of the most outspoken feminists on this board are gay men, Hilaire and Bucko being notable among several others. I have on occasion stepped up to the plate myself.

Did you comprehend any of my post, which directly preceded and presumably prompted yours? What exactly is the problem if all participants are happy and getting what they want out of the exchange? How is that dehumanizing? What does this have to do specifically with "gay and bi men's sexual practices"? Why do you insist on projecting your own sense of morality and dignity on others?

In short, as I read this and your subsequent posts you continue to criticize other people's sexual practices and attitudes, albeit in a more qualified, oblique and understated manner. I for one have grown tired of your passive-aggressive protestations of innocence; your "I'm just here to learn" mantra rings increasingly hollow.
I think there are ulterior motives behind your disingenuous words. I think you are here to criticize and condemn.

But hey, I'm just "expressing an opinion". :smile:

Well Maxcok, yeh, I guess you and Mr. FleshPot are similar people. It makes sense. I think I even see a resemblance in your photos. (That's a joke btw) Is that allowed? :biggrin1: No, I don't get what you're saying. It's my opinion that "a mouth is Just a mouth" is sexual objectification in whatever form it takes. It certainly was not my intention to attack certain gay men when I started this thread. I also read your assertion that "all men are pigs" and that straight guys like to suck cocks obsessively but just not so openly or freely as certain gay guys do who put ads online for potential suckees. When I was referring to straight guys who are less sexist, I was talking about the guys on this thread not men in general. Same with my comments about gay guys. It pertains to those who contributed to this thread. BTW I didn't respond to your post before because I had an appointment and didn't see it until later.

You are quite the writer there. "I for one have grown tired of your passive-aggressive protestations of innocence". No straight guy I know could ever have written that sentence. Just saying.

 

[D_Relentless Original]

Worshipyourcock, I do think there's a huge difference between the naked photos on my profile and FleshlightMouth's profile. Many people here have naked photos in their gallery. To me it's like comparing oranges and apples. :smile:

^What has Fleshlights profile got to do with you?, Seriously with no malice, What has it got do with you? If you are offended then don't click on it.

In that case, I'd better speak up and say that I agree with hilaire, max and anyone else who's disagreed with your posts regarding FLM. If it is all between consenting adults, there's nothing at all wrong with the sexual practises he chooses to engage in, and everything wrong with your response to him.

Well said Sub, and Sub ^ is not a Gayman talking that you the OP associated everybody with; that posted above. Other than judging people which you seem to like to do, make sure you get your facts right too. I find you offensive.