A news topic which always sets LPSGers off

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  1. B_big dirigible

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    Senators propose labels for adult Web sites | CNET News.com

    Senators propose labels for adult Web sites

    Operators of Web sites with racy content must label their sites and register in a national directory or be fined, according to a new U.S. Senate proposal that represents the latest effort among politicians to crack down on Internet sex.

    This is brought to you by the Democratic party - you know, the "civil rights" party. I suppose it "takes a village" to "clean up the Internet for children."

    The target appears to be web sites with "harmful to minors" content on pages that are initially viewable to visitors. I suppose that could be interpreted to mean my gun forum.

    Yeah, that'll get my vote, for sure.
     
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    As if 2257 wasn't vague enough to trap anyone they wanted....ugh.

    Documentation as an answer to all that ails the world, with a paperwork reduction act to follow behind shortly thereafter....
     
  3. dong20

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    Haha, as if the US doesn't have enough problems without worrying about what adults do with other adults online. It's a collective sense of morality (and priority) which often seems so entirely ass backward, or at least it does to me.
     
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    Good luck getting the California economy to buy in on that one....

    If they were to do anything, encode the page, like they do now, to classify it as adult in nature, and let the browsers handle it invisibly, at the users descretion.

    Same thing as anything else...if kids want to see porn, They'll find it.

    What better way than to blur the real problems at hand? (with both parties)
     
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    There is a movement afoot to introduce another top-level domain, .xxx, the theory being that all "adult" sites could be required to use that TLD. Then browsers could be set to simply not read anything with an address ending in .xxx.

    The organizaiton responsible for such things, ICANN, has torpedoed it twice so far. There are obvious legal problems and not-so-obvious technical problems. The current Dem proposal might dodge the technical problems, though of course the legal ones (not to mention the common-sensical ones) remain.
     
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    *snore*

    Don't they have better things to do? Who's to say what's "harmful to children" anyway? Can you imagine what it would be like if everyone first started watching pornography at 21+? The thought makes me shudder. Not to mention porn is a multi-billion dollar industry nowadays.
     
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    Why not let them label XXX sites and other sites about foul stuff with such a label? I'm not exactly an internet expert, but aren't sites already tagged/labeled in a way that the content filters can sort them out, if activated?

    If the use of this label is to be a denouncing one, I think it won't help much. In a perverted sense, I guess soon websites will be competing about who gets the most harmful label, and use it for marketing their sites. The senators in question are free to take another attempt at cutting off Internet porn, and once again I see this attempt will not work out, as all current have. I'm not telling anything new that all a provider of porn would have to do is moving his server, and his office residence to a nice, discreet offshore place, such as Aruba, Bermuda or the Cayman Islands, post his stuff from there and lounge around in the sun, counting the millions of bucks pouring in from clients.
     
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    Keeping the net safe for kids is as easy as watching what your kids do, why should the rest of us have to be policed because some lazy parents just stick their kids on the pc to get them off their backs? I wouldn't have let my kids go to a nightclub, neither would I let my young teens use the net unsupervised.
     
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    I started watching porn when I was 12, and I have turned out alright. It is just sex, who the fuck cares if you see other adults having sex? I think it helps you understand what the act of sex is. Can you imagine kids in the future not knowing what the act of sex is, in a visual sense, and when it comes to them humping their g/f, b/f, wife, husband? They are gonna be scared half to death because they will have no idea how to thrust, it will only cause one's self-esteem to go down. I bet these senators have some serious micro-penises and are ashamed to admit it.
     
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    LOL, I love LPSG.
     
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    Yeah, like any retard can't ping the site name and then drop the numeric IP into the browser...

    Don't forget about all those wicked little tricksters using MacOS or Linux...guess we'd better ban wget while we're at it!
     
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    Sure, it may get you a server IP but that's no guarantee you will get the site from that IP, in fact it's unlikely.:rolleyes:
     
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    One problem is that, say, blowjobs.com, blowjobs.org, blowjobs.net, blowjobs.biz, blowjobs.info, etc. are different domains, generally with different owners and with different market values. The TLDs (.com, .org, etc) are supposed to mean different things, but in practice, they don't. (Some TLDs like .edu, .mil, and .gov are reserved for certain organizations, and not just anybody can buy them.) These different domains can't all be replaced by blowjobs.xxx. And the .xxx name can't just be given to blowjobs.com, with .net, .ord, .biz, etc. left out in the cold, as they're property and cost money. The government could seize them, perhaps, after enough legal maneuvering, but would have to compensate the owners. The sums could be considerable. Very short domain names like sex.com are quite valuable. In fact any 3-letter name is expensive. The theory is that the shorter it is, the easier it is to type, so the more people will type it, and the higher the traffic will be. It's not a good theory, but those wild about buying and selling domain names seem to live & die by it.

    The current filters I believe look for keywords. Those don't work as well as they might. There was a case of a school sports team's website being blocked by some filters, as the team had some unfortunate name like The Beavers. (Not too implausible - the MIT women's hockey team is named that. Or used to be, at least. Their cheer was pretty memorable, too.) And there have been some flaps about content control software filtering out sites dealing with topics not generally considered to be violations of the Not In Front Of The Children Act, like guns.
     
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    Oh, I think we all remember Tipper Gore's censorship bullshit. It sure helped a lot to put a fucking sticker on records, now didn't it?:rolleyes: However, I must say it was a good day for me when I saw John Denver alongside Dee Snider and Frank Zappa defending free speech in court.

    The dems are no better than the repubs when it comes to "proctecting our innocent children". God forbid anyone should actually be responsible for raising their own children! I'm sick to death of the whole world being g-rated just so lazy people don't have to monitor what their kids do.

    The police have all the access they need to track down child predators, who indeed do use the interweb for staking out victims, but it's the parents' job to know who their kids are talking to, just as on the phone.
    Sites like LPSG would be classified as porn because of our gallery, even though that's only a small portion of the site.

    Be careful about giving up your rights without a fight just because you dislike the specific issue, like porn. Governments rarely give back rights once they take them away, and the next issue could be one you do care about.
     
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    Interesting point, I hadn't thought of that.

    I was going to say, "let them label away", because -- as with video games -- labels make it easier to distinguish adult stuff from kiddie stuff, and therefore makes it easier to produce & market the adult stuff.
     
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    it's not a big truck. it's a series of tubes.
     
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    Ladies, I think you have really hit upon the crux of the problem here. Parents who are just too damned lazy to do their job as parents are demanding that the government do that job for them. I don't know about any of the rest of you, but I think this whole "nanny-state" concept has gone way too far.
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    For a quick lesson in why this is not the best idea, first type in LPSG.org and then try LPSG.com and you will quickly see why it won't work to simply change all the "naughty sites" to a .xxx domain.
     
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    But there isn't a site at lpsg.com...
     
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