A peace treaty between conservatives and liberals

[B_starinvestor]

I support this because I am from Minneapolis, so I don't have to move. But my friends in St. Paul will! Ha ha!

I do detect a flaw in your cunning plan. How do we divide the top third of Minnesota that is above Lake Itasca, headwaters of the Mississippi?

That's easy. We put Sarah Palin in charge of building a bridge...

 

[HazelGod]

We put Sarah Palin in charge of building a bridge...

The only bridge she's fit to take charge of runs from my balls to her cervix.

 

[Average_joe]

That's easy. We put Sarah Palin in charge of building a bridge...

*narrows eyes*

Touche...

 

[Northland]

...What if we split the country between east and west with the divider being the Mississippi River.

The liberals can choose either side. Assuming they take the west (since Hollywood is the promised land for liberals), all of the liberals take all area west of the Mississippi, and conservatives take the area east of the Mississippi.

This would be utopia.

And now time for the bad joke of the day...




If the Conservatives were instead the ones to get the area west of the Mississippi, or because of total equality in land distribution, insisted on the city of St. Louis Missouri and would then have the St. Louis Gateway Arch. would this make them...








...Arch-conservatives?:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

[marleyisalegend]

*enters the thread with handcuffs in one hand, Eros in the other*

Has the orgy started yet? Open-minded Liberal here (forgive the redundancy) willing to try CCL or LLC.

 

[houtx48]

you will surely acknowledge that evil conservatives like myself are harmful to the country.....................EVIL is not exactly the word that come to mind but this is your little story.

 

[marleyisalegend]

you will surely acknowledge that evil conservatives like myself are harmful to the country.....................EVIL is not exactly the word that come to mind but this is your little story.

So, you up for a CCL?

 

[faceking]

Didn't part of the USA try seceding from the USA last century?

No. What history book and/or timekeeping do you have?

 

[mindseye]

Perhaps he's thinking of the Conch Republic?

 

[faceking]

Perhaps he's thinking of the Conch Republic?

or Banana Republic...

(on second reading, I think he meant the US civil war... thinking we are in the 20th century v 21st century).

 

[Average_joe]

or Banana Republic...

(on second reading, I think he meant the US civil war... thinking we are in the 20th century v 21st century).

Banana Republic? I thought that was a sarcastic name for Central American and Caribbean countries where the governments were propped up by U.S. Marines for the benefit of the fruit companies?

 

[B_Hung Jon]

I think the "original" South demarcation makes the most sense and of course throw in the Dakotas too. People who are intelligent, conscious, and non-christian could just move to the coasts. Those who are right-wing christians could just head to Alabama. This would cause the least amount of population change.

 

[Average_joe]

I think the "original" South demarcation makes the most sense and of course throw in the Dakotas too. People who are intelligent, conscious, and non-christian could just move to the coasts. Those who are right-wing christians could just head to Alabama. This would cause the least amount of population change.

Why is it that some liberals are so quick to bash the entire expanse of country between the coasts? I'm liberal, and I live in Minnesota. Get off your asses, get out of your comfort zones, and actually visit places before you condemn them.

There are places that have considerable numbers of liberals that are not on the goddamned East or West coasts. Ever hear of a little place called Chicago? How about Minneapolis and St. Paul? Madison? Milwaukee? These are just a handful of places from the upper Midwest, there are more from all over the country.

Not everyone in the "flyover" country is a backwards, uneducated, redneck hick, of either political party. Stop treating us like we're inferior.

 

[Phil Ayesho]

As pointed out.... centers of civilization and population tend to be liberal... we keep those..

But BuckTooth Arkansas and Shitferbrains Texas and all the other podunk pissholes that pass for what Sarah Palin calls the "Real America"... that's what the conservatives HAVE to take as their own...


You know... the places where there are more Meth labs than Medical labs....

 

[Cowabanga]

This thread is a laugh! A severe conservative would only think of this, and that is one of the reason they failed in bringing about peace to the middle east. The conservative actually suggested splitting Iraq in three parts. Seems that division is the party mantra. Russia did a special broadcast on how the USA will be split into 4 parts. How you like them apples?

 

[Average_joe]

As pointed out.... centers of civilization and population tend to be liberal... we keep those..

But BuckTooth Arkansas and Shitferbrains Texas and all the other podunk pissholes that pass for what Sarah Palin calls the "Real America"... that's what the conservatives HAVE to take as their own...


You know... the places where there are more Meth labs than Medical labs....

In one ear, and right out the other. You are an insulting, mean, arrogant man.

 

[Cowabanga]

As pointed out.... centers of civilization and population tend to be liberal... we keep those..

But BuckTooth Arkansas and Shitferbrains Texas and all the other podunk pissholes that pass for what Sarah Palin calls the "Real America"... that's what the conservatives HAVE to take as their own...


You know... the places where there are more Meth labs than Medical labs....

Pretty harsh! But I get the sentiment from Sarah Palin actually taking pride in their ignorance and not even trying to be classy. As if being an elitist of your class is a bad thing. Kind of remind me when in schools the smart kids are look down upon as being nerds. She is saying look at us, I have a pregnant daughter out of wedlock, my husband makes a living snomobiling and working out a succession plan from the USA, I hunt from helicopter, and I run the meth city capital, and I am one of you with real problems.

 

[Average_joe]

Pretty harsh! But I get the sentiment from Sarah Palin actually taking pride in their ignorance and not even trying to be classy. As if being an elitist of your class is a bad thing. Kind of remind me when in schools the smart kids are look down upon as being nerds. She is saying look at us, I have a pregnant daughter out of wedlock, my husband makes a living snomobiling and working out a succession plan from the USA, I hunt from helicopter, and I run the meth city capital, and I am one of you with real problems.

People who take pride in their ignorance, they are the ones who scare me.

I remember my (now ex-) girlfriend had some relatives who were like that. They were all about hunting and fishing and snowmobiling. One of them thought blaze orange was THE fashion. They looked down on her because she went to university, and myself because I was from the city and didn't have an accent. It didn't matter that my girlfriend was a crack shot with a rifle or a shotgun, and could be a certified firearms instructor if she wanted to, or that I can build things out of metal or wood and operate heavy machinery. All they saw was that we were educated, and that meant we were bad.

I'm not even sure where their politics lie. They could have voted democrat, for all I know.

 

[Phil Ayesho]

In one ear, and right out the other. You are an insulting, mean, arrogant man.

That's actually a pretty mean and arrogant thing to say... given the origin and thesis of this thread.

Rich republicans steal money from the middle class thru manipulations of law and re-distribution of tax money to private interests... they then USE the millions they made to live the life of kings in the Liberal leaning centers of civilization, where cool nightclubs and restaurants stay open all night.

And they SELL the less educated, less diverse, and more socially conservative population in the less populous States a raft of LIES about how their policies are all about "self sufficiency" and "Smaller government" when in fact, the only part of govenrment they actually work to make smaller is the part that Polices their corporate graft and corruption, so they can steal even more money thru unscrupulous means.

But when they need to get re-elected they drag back out those bugaboos the rubes in their base knee jerk to... you know, the flag burning, illegal immigrant, giving their hard won tax money to the poor issues that less educated and socially isolated folks are likely to get riled up about... and they use the fear of conservatives who are largely out of the loop to get into office..

And once safely back in office they do what history shows they have always done... they stuff the issues they got elected on in mothballs for the next election and do NOTHING about balancing the budget, reducing spending, and illegal immigration...
While they focus on sweatheart deals for their corporate sponsors and whittling away all government ability to regualte everything from financial instruments, to the health and safety of the food supply.


And THEN one of their believers suggests that we would divide the country in two and give the eastern seaboard, a liberal stronghold, to the conservatives.

Hmm... Alabama and Georgia and North Dakota are good enough suck up to for fearful voters... but they want to LIVE the the cities and the States that employ liberal political ideology.


I don't think its arrogant to pay attention to the facts.

If the past 12 years of republicans ass fucking the entire nation and robbing us blind is not enough to demonstrate that the Conservative base is being PLAYED by a bunch of eastern big city corporate board sitting elitists... then the 'red states' may truly be too backwards and ill educated to ever clue into what is actually in their best interest.


The current rash of republican hopefuls in office refusing federal aid for their unemployed constituents is a perfect example of how little republicans give a shit about the people they represent.

They just want that near lifetime ride of money and perqs tha come from higher office.
y'know, the national healthcare a first term representative gets for LIFE even if he only serves ONE fucking term? And the national pension plan that is separate and distinct from Social Security, that is ALWAYS funded with plenty to spare, even when Wall Street crashes?

Y'know... the shit Republicans are HAPPY to grab for themselves while trying to convince you how bad it would be for YOU to have the same?


When you make an argument that is actually correct, then you can not be accused of arrogance.

Offer proof, ANY proof that republicans DO what they SAY other than de-regulate commerce... which in itself, is a violation of Constitutional charter.


Balance the budget?
Nope

Reduce the size of government?
Nope, From Reagan to Bush 2, every republican president has INCREASED the size of government... they have reduced the effectiveness of government, from our military to FEMA to our regulatory agencies... but they managed to do that by spending vastly more.

Improved the economy?
Nope... all gains from illusory 'bubbles' were offset by vastly larger loses.

Growth?
Nope- Real GNP ( not counting bullshit default swaps and other shenanigans) FELL, as did the average wage.

Howabout those hotbutton issues?

Illegal immigration?
Nada
Flag Burning?
Nada
Socialism?
well- this one they actually did a 180 on when they opted to bailout wall Street with 800 billion dollars- with NO oversight...

Evidence is clear and long term and irrefutable.

Republican administration and policy benefited richest 2% at the considerable expense of the middle class and at the cost of deteriorating infrastructure, bankrupted States and Cities, and world wide economic collapse.


Is that what you conservatives rubes were PROMISED at the rallies?
What does it take to wake you up to the pickpockets you are embracing?

Why the hell are you pointing fingers at the folks who weren't even there when your wallet went missing?

 

[AllHazzardi]

A liberal on a different post inspired a thought that may be acceptable to liberals and conservatives. What if we split the country between east and west with the divider being the Mississippi River.

The liberals can choose either side. Assuming they take the west (since Hollywood is the promised land for liberals), all of the liberals take all area west of the Mississippi, and conservatives take the area east of the Mississippi. Each side runs its own government and operates with its own income and taxes. For example, the west won't ever need to go to war, they can impose any tax rate it pleases, and can institute any social program it likes. However, it can't 'redistribute' taxes from those workers east of the Mississippi. Those on the east run their own government. Each can choose its own military, and its own regulation/deregulation.

This would be utopia.

I don't think absolute segregation would even be necessary in our modern communication world. Really, our system of representatives based on geographical area is no longer functioning properly; people have intermingled and have a myriad of different sets of ideologies per geographic area. We need to change our system of representation. Instead of representing by geographic area, we should be representing by ideology. Those registered as Republicans should have Republican representatives in government, those registered as Democrats should have Democratic representatives in government. This system would be far superior in our current national situation; instead of having two parties dominate the maps, so long as more than say... 50 people are members of a given party, that party's ideology gains senate seats and chooses their representatives. This system also allows for non-finite expansion; If you do not agree with ANY of the existing parties of ideological organization, you start one and gather people who agree with you within it.

One last thing; a Utopia does not come from division, it comes from unification. How do you Unify people of different perspectives and ideologies as "one people"? You allow them their fair representation in government and decision-making.

We have in our government system a means with which to fully unify the people of the United States, to fully unify the states, to truly become "America". It brings an old adage to mind; Divide and Conquer. So then does the reverse also apply? That which is unified and cannot be divided cannot be conquered?