A question for Gay (not bi) guys

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Ten Naked Girls in a room means to me: FACIALS! And probably manicures/pedicures... while we dish the men! Then, they'll all want to see my dick.

Having crossed the fence: KISSING IS KISSING... frequently bad, sometimes good and for the ardent few AMAZING!

Although I have found kissing a woman to be passionate and amazingly soft, I equate kissing a man with the same feelings a straight man gets while watching the WWE (something I can't completely wrap my head around): It's passion, it's power, it's competetive (sometimes) and it's sheer nirvana.
 

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In my experience when I was young(-er?), is Indifference,for the actual act of sex or sharing of lust expression is far more complex than me(a)ts the eye.I've also "learned" that the mood that people are at a certain moment,is contributing to the end result. Nudity itself is nowadays but vain and by itself,well goes by as "newsworthy" for concerned citizens. The important incredient that so often is lacking, is LOVE/caring/sharing and not only that,conjures up to the actual embarking of the deed. Hence what goes before, is Foreplay . Life is a foreplay to the main event!
 

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This is something I've always had in common with my gay male friends- cooch creeps me out. It disgusts me to the point that I cannot really enjoy straight porn.

I know there are plenty of women who do not share that opinion, but it's a line in the sand thing for me- absolutely icky. I know what a pretty girl looks like, and even have preferences about what I consider pretty, but there's just never ever an occasion where I want to see a snatch.

Here's another woman who agrees with you! I feel strange that representations of my own anatomy grosses me out, but it does.
 

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Im gay - but I the sight of another man banging a women makes me so hard and I can appreciate naked women but not a turn on. Although I have and still have sex occasionally with women. Maybe I'm just a wore & a holes a hole?
 

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the thought of kissing a woman or seeing women kiss doesn't gross me out. It's more like kissing your sister. As far as seeing a woman naked, it doesn't gross me out. I'm just indifferent. 10 naked palyboy playmates won't make me hard, but I wouldn't have to hurl either.
 

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I Am Gay But Fucked Girls In High School And College So I Can Get Erect With A Girl But Much Prefer Cock. Cock Gets Me Hard Just Thinking About It,making Love To A Man Is Very Nice To A Woman Is Hard Work!
 

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This was an interesting thread... there's obviously a lot of Foucault fans out there =).

As for me, I can watch straight porn, and sometimes it actually does turn me on.. oddly enough, especially when I watch a guy perform oral sex on the woman. The actual drilling doesn't do a whole lot for me, nor does the woman performing oral sex on the man... go figure. Of course gay porn gets me hard almost instantly.

I find women extremely beautiful, but not sexually attractive. I've never kissed one, never seen one naked in person. But my best friend is a woman, and when we go out together I always like it when she's in a dress that shows off her more than ample cleavage. I get a sense of pride almost, like "She's on my arm and not yours." But, at the end of the night, we've both hooked up with dudes and that's about the end of it.

A roomfull of naked playboy bunnies would probably get me to wanna take pictures for my straight friends, but would do nothing for the lil' sarge.
 

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In my case I do like to see pussy. I am straight and the odd thing is I have never been grossed out by a dick only the body it is attached to, I never found it attractive but never gross either. However I have been disgusted by some of the pussies I have seen (extremely stretched out gaping pussies) even when the girl has a nice body besides her snatch. I have never seen a gross pussy in real life though.
 

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Haha! i like this thread! i was called a homophobe for thinking 2 guys kissing is gross, but some of the gay guys here have said that they have no interest at all in women, and somtimes even think they are gross! ha! Ha! Take that.

And this validates your original thoughts somehow?
 

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interesting thread... this is going to sound wierd I knmow , but bear with me...I find the idea of 2 men kissing disgusting...but I'm not too fond of 2 women either...go figure. I love sexy woman with big nipples...Like my ex...Unless she just plain ugly...I am somewhat turned on by her...but..as for guys... I have to admit Unless a picture is of a well hung guy..it doesnt do anything for me. I guess thats the 1% coming out...but i have never had a same sex expereince...but I have wondered what it would be like. Make sense?
 

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Exactly. Or are you saying those gay guys who think girls are a little gross are heterophobes? Because it cant just go one way.

I'm saying that just because you find equal opportunity offenders from the opposite direction, it doesn't do anything to further your cause. It's one thing to be indifferent about a livestyle choice or 'type' of person that isn't your choosing, but being 'disgusted' certainly crosses the line for many people.
 

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I'm saying that just because you find equal opportunity offenders from the opposite direction, it doesn't do anything to further your cause. It's one thing to be indifferent about a livestyle choice or 'type' of person that isn't your choosing, but being 'disgusted' certainly crosses the line for many people.

Well guess what, i dont care who it crosses the line for. It could make everybody in the world pissed at me, i dont give a damn, the fact of the matter is, im not a homophobe. You say we are offenders, so then you are saying that those gay people are heterophobes?
 

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Well guess what, i dont care who it crosses the line for. It could make everybody in the world pissed at me, i dont give a damn, the fact of the matter is, im not a homophobe. You say we are offenders, so then you are saying that those gay people are heterophobes?

Anyone who is 'disgusted' by people of a different race or sexual preference has issues in my eyes. It's not like finding broccoli 'disgusting'. These are fellow members of our human race we're talking about, and I always offer respect and acceptance to everyone, provided you're not hurting anyone.

It's the language I'm opposed to. Saying you don't prefer something is a far cry from declaring utter disgust, straight or gay.
 

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Anyone who is 'disgusted' by people of a different race or sexual preference has issues in my eyes. It's not like finding broccoli 'disgusting'. These are fellow members of our human race we're talking about, and I always offer respect and acceptance to everyone, provided you're not hurting anyone.
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I think that both Kassokilleri2ff and BigD have subtly but importantly shifted the terms of the discussion. I don't think (speaking as one of the potential "heterophobes") that anybody here intended to talk about any people--gay men, women, whatever--as being themselves, as people, gross or disgusting. Instead, the question of the thread was--at least as I read it--about immediate responses to particular acts (two guys kissing) or to parts of the anatomy (male or female). It seems quite possible to be turned off or even repulsed by an act or body part and yet still have respect and acceptance for the actor or owner.

Having said that, Kassokilleri2ff has a certain point about reciprocity. If I find female privates (not women, mind you) revolting as a personal opinion and matter of taste, then I have to accept that some people, like the original poster, find two men kissing (not gay men, mind you) revolting. Fine, neither of us has to look at either if we don't want to, so long as both of us don't want to take action against those objects that, while sources of disgust for some, are clearly beautiful to others.

BTW, I happen to find the eating of cottage cheese probably the most repulsive thing imaginable--please don't do it in my house, but anywhere else is fine--I'll just look away if you please.
 

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I think that both Kassokilleri2ff and BigD have subtly but importantly shifted the terms of the discussion. I don't think (speaking as one of the potential "heterophobes") that anybody here intended to talk about any people--gay men, women, whatever--as being themselves, as people, gross or disgusting. Instead, the question of the thread was--at least as I read it--about immediate responses to particular acts (two guys kissing) or to parts of the anatomy (male or female). It seems quite possible to be turned off or even repulsed by an act or body part and yet still have respect and acceptance for the actor or owner.

Having said that, Kassokilleri2ff has a certain point about reciprocity. If I find female privates (not women, mind you) revolting as a personal opinion and matter of taste, then I have to accept that some people, like the original poster, find two men kissing (not gay men, mind you) revolting. Fine, neither of us has to look at either if we don't want to, so long as both of us don't want to take action against those objects that, while sources of disgust for some, are clearly beautiful to others.

BTW, I happen to find the eating of cottage cheese probably the most repulsive thing imaginable--please don't do it in my house, but anywhere else is fine--I'll just look away if you please.

I think there's a difference between being disgusted by two men kissing and being disgusted by a snatch pic or whatever.

Being disgusted by two men kissing is to take issue with an act between two people that is viewed as normal (generally) when it's between a man and a woman. It's not the kissing itself that's the problem, it's the fact that it's two men doing the kissing. This is a bit homophibic. You're not objecting to the aesthectics of the act, specifically, but to the fact that the people participating in it are of the same sex.

With a vagina, it can be as simple as not liking the way they look as an aesthetic preference. I can't be the only one that thinks, when taken out of its sexual context, a vagina is a really odd looking thing with lots of skin and folds and moisture that genuinely may not be very aesthetically appealing to someone. For others it may be attractive even separated from its function. However, when you add in the sex part, it changes that because it is the source of excitement and pleasure for straight men and women. In that context, it becomes more appealing. If that context is not there (as it wouldn't be for a gay man), they may just not like the way it looks, especially when you're rarele exposed to them.

Does that make any sense?

I get a little squirrely when I hear that people are disgusted by natural human acts of affection or parts of the human body equally. I think being disgusted should be saved for things that are evil or injuresome.
 
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That's a well-though out opinion, Aristarchus. I can't say I completely agree. Of course I admit that many of us simply aren't drawn to one gender or another, not their genitalia. And I think we're all better off if we just accept that. But in this case, I don't believe that disgust is the same kind of natural phenomenon.

I think it's a subconscious marriage between someone's natural lack of attraction to one gender combined with a feeling of superiority, of contempt -- and yes, I agree that holds true for either straight OR gay men. But in the latter case, I'd call it misogyny rather than "heterophobia."

Which reminds me - y'all are funny. When straight people are denied equal civil rights on multiple levels; routinely harassed, attacked and killed just because they are straight; constantly hidden, mocked and stereotyped in mainstream culture, and all that by gay people, then come tell me about "heterophobia." Until that day? Please. Damn right it's a "one-way street" ... whether you're a big enough person to admit it or not.
 
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