A question for Gay (not bi) guys

[Big Dreamer]

That's a well-though out opinion, Aristarchus. I can't say I completely agree. Of course I admit that many of us simply aren't drawn to one gender or another, not their genitalia. And I think we're all better off if we just accept that. But in this case, I don't believe that disgust is the same kind of natural phenomenon.

I think it's a subconscious marriage between someone's natural lack of attraction to one gender combined with a feeling of superiority, of contempt -- and yes, I agree that holds true for either straight OR gay men. But in the latter case, I'd call it misogyny rather than "heterophobia."

Which reminds me - y'all are funny. When straight people are denied equal civil rights on multiple levels; routinely harassed, attacked and killed just because they are straight; constantly hidden, mocked and stereotyped in mainstream culture, and all that by gay people, then come tell me about "heterophobia." Until that day? Please. Damn right it's a "one-way street" ... whether you're a big enough person to admit it or not.

That was worthy of your 11K post Matthew, not just silly old #10,987. You've added a shitload of substance to what I was trying to hint at originally. Since this site uses the written word (excluding porn links:tongue: ) to convey ideas, word choice is important, and the word disgust weighs heavily on those it's directed towards. Hell, I'm not a gay man and I get unequivocally offended when that shit gets thrown around.

And it's got nothing to do with hypersensitivity, but everything to do with respect for people that aren't "just like you". Also, as you've stated, there's historical significance (gay bashing) that would prompt any gay man (or better yet, all of us) to be vigilant in ensuring that homophobic BS dies a cold and lonely death.

 

[aristarchus]

I think there's a difference between being disgusted by two men kissing and being disgusted by a snatch pic or whatever.

Being disgusted by two men kissing is to take issue with an act between two people that is viewed as normal (generally) when it's between a man and a woman. It's not the kissing itself that's the problem, it's the fact that it's two men doing the kissing. This is a bit homophibic. You're not objecting to the aesthectics of the act, specifically, but to the fact that the people participating in it are of the same sex.

With a vagina, it can be as simple as not liking the way they look as an aesthetic preference. I can't be the only one that thinks, when taken out of its sexual context, a vagina is a really odd looking thing with lots of skin and folds and moisture that genuinely may not be very aesthetically appealing to someone. For others it may be attractive even separated from its function. However, when you add in the sex part, it changes that because it is the source of excitement and pleasure for straight men and women. In that context, it becomes more appealing. If that context is not there (as it wouldn't be for a gay man), they may just not like the way it looks, especially when you're rarele exposed to them.

Does that make any sense?
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Thanks, snoozan, the distinction you draw does indeed make a great deal of sense, and is an important one. An excellent analysis, and one based solidly on the things themselves rather than on more distant considerations. My friend Aristotle would be pleased.

 

[aristarchus]

Hell, I'm not a gay man and I get unequivocally offended when that shit gets thrown around.

And it's got nothing to do with hypersensitivity, but everything to do with respect for people that aren't "just like you".

Yes, it does seem that I suffer from an abnormally low offense-taking drive, perhaps I should have my hormones checked. Ah well, at least my condition doesn't appear contagious.

 

[matticus201]

interesting thread... this is going to sound wierd I knmow , but bear with me...I find the idea of 2 men kissing disgusting...but I'm not too fond of 2 women either...go figure. I love sexy woman with big nipples...Like my ex...Unless she just plain ugly...I am somewhat turned on by her...but..as for guys... I have to admit Unless a picture is of a well hung guy..it doesnt do anything for me. I guess thats the 1% coming out...but i have never had a same sex expereince...but I have wondered what it would be like. Make sense?

It makes total sense to me. I've never had an opposite sex experience, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious about what it would be like to perform oral sex on a woman, or even fuck her. I can't say that I find heterosexuals kissing disgusting... quite to the contrary, however, but I am definately curious about heterosexual sex.

 

[Kassokilleri2ff]

Well, ive been thinking. I watch porn, jerk off to it very mucho. In hetero porn, the guy and the girl make out alot. I dont like to watch that. I always feel uncomfortable around a couple who is making out. And the more i think about it, i realy dont like to see a guy and a girl kiss. I just dont want to look at the guy lol. They are so ugly, but i love to see 2 girls kiss, they are both so hot and cute. No ugly ass guy. I always skip the guy and girl kissing in porn movies. Even romantic movies and such, when the guy and girl kiss, im like, meh.. whatever. But if 2 girls kiss im like "fuck yea!!" I think the problem for me is, i just think guys are ugly lol. This also must extend to the 2 guys kissing, because, now the only good part (the girl) is gone, and now its just 2 ugly guys. Id rather not watch lol. Im just thinking and trying to remember romantic kissy kissy movies, and i am just never enticed to watch the guy and girl kiss. El oh el zzz

 

[GoneA]

Being disgusted by two men kissing is to take issue with an act between two people that is viewed as normal (generally) when it's between a man and a woman. It's not the kissing itself that's the problem, it's the fact that it's two men doing the kissing. This is a bit homophibic. You're not objecting to the aesthectics of the act, specifically, but to the fact that the people participating in it are of the same sex.

Dear God I love you!

 

[demolitionworker]

for me personally my profile should show 90% gay 10% straight. i'm about the straightest looking gay guy out there. i work construction and demolition. i don't really do femmes don't understand it (no offense to anyone). I go for the masculine gay guys. dated a few women in high school but it sucked. i've never fucked and never been fucked but nothing beats a bj by a skilled guy. women will never get it right. when i look for a guy i want a manly blue collar guy like myself. i'm 6'2 265lb mostly muscle size 14 steel toes 8" thick cock. i have a deep voice it's preferable for the other guy too. any guys out there like that message me. one other thing is i don't stare at guys either i might check em out quickly but it's very discreet. i gotta act straight at work obviously.

hope that answers your question.

 

[cfr]

That's what makes the world such a beautiful place but too bad that we all can't show a trifle bit more tolrency towards people. What does it matter if I like pussy or cock or if one of them makes me hurl. Which neither one of them does react on me that way. I have had them both and would not say one thing was bad about any sex or part of a female or male. I just decided that I prefer men to woman. I still think that woman are beautiful and their snatch does not make me hurl but would rather suck on a dick. So it really does not matter and I would think that any one that is that homophobic that it would make them hurl should just relax and not worry about or maybe that it is a worry to joiece what ever.

 

[cocktaste]

I am completly straight. The thought of being with a guy almost makes me hurl. I gag when I see two guys kiss. Seeing a naked guy does absolutly nothing positive for me (and ranges from no reaction to "very gross") The thought of kissing a guy disgusts me.

So, the question for the gay guys out there....Is this how you feel when have similar thoughts about girls? Do naked girls make you go limp? If you were in a roomful of 10 naked playboy playmates would you get hard or stay limp? would that at all be fun or sort of weird and disgusting?

I'm seriously curious. Thanks

Geez, you have some issues to work on. No one's making you kiss another guy, but it makes you want to hurl? God, you're lucky any gay people would reply to you after that comment.

 

[dcwrestlefan]

I am completly straight. The thought of being with a guy almost makes me hurl. I gag when I see two guys kiss. Seeing a naked guy does absolutly nothing positive for me (and ranges from no reaction to "very gross") The thought of kissing a guy disgusts me.

So, the question for the gay guys out there....Is this how you feel when have similar thoughts about girls? Do naked girls make you go limp? If you were in a roomful of 10 naked playboy playmates would you get hard or stay limp? would that at all be fun or sort of weird and disgusting?

I'm seriously curious. Thanks

I view a beautiful nude woman in the same way I view a view of the Rocky Mountains or a large brightly lit cityscape at night. Awesome to look at, but it does not do much for me sexually. Does it gross me out? No.

The up close pussy pictures you see around sometimes are somewhat disgusting to me.

Seeing women kiss does not bother me. Seeing guys kiss is a turnon.

There are alot of gay guys, at least ones I know, that think tits are awesome. Not sure why. A gay friend of mine was married to a woman a long time ago, and he still talks about hers to this day. She was wild apparently. They drove through the toll booth of the Delaware Memorial Bridge once, and she was topless. I've heard that story 1000 times.

 

[dudepower1982]

I'm a gay male, and here's my "queer" perspective on it.

I don't find the naked female body to be "gross" or "disgusting." It simply doesn't turn me on. The naked male body can give me a hard-on or make me feel aroused. But the naked female body just has no affect on me, I'm like, "Meh, whatever."

Obviously, I get turned on by seeing two men kissing.

If I see two women kissing, again, it doesn't turn me on, but I feel neutral about it. Or sometimes I'm kind of like, "Aw, they're in love, that's sweet."

Now if I see a man and a woman kissing, I have a similar reaction to if I see two women kissing...except when a man and a woman are kissing, I might additionally be thinking, "WTG, bro!" to the guy (usually if he's close to my own age).

 

[jagerman420]

The thought of two women does nothing for me

 

[wingnut84]

I'd like to ask the OP (as well as many other posters on this thread) how you can not be attracted to EITHER sex, let alone be repulsed. Men are sexy (at least some of them), and so are women (arguably even moreso than men). Cock is nice, and so is pussy. While I can understand the lack of attraction to a certain sex, because transsexuals do NOTHING for me (I like my men to be men, and my women to be women) at the same time, transsexuals don't "repulse" me either. And even if they did, I wouldn't say that because I know that would be rather rude to them, just like hearing you people talk about how "guys kissing is repugnant" to you or how "women disgust" you does to me.