a Question for Genuine Straight Men?

[MisterMark]

Yes that is true.

Heterosexuals can easily find relationships and sometimes even lasting ones a lot easier than gay/bisexual men can and it can be easier for heterosexuals to find people who they are more easily sexually compatible with.

The sheer difference in numbers make those things inevitable.

With that said, no matter what your sexual orientation, you don't get anywhere with anyone if you don't at least try.

 

[MisterMark]

Yeah, thats awful, I am friends with a few gay people(girls and guys) and it is the exact same treatment as my straight friends. Hell, I have even busted out "gay" jokes, and they bust a gut.

Interesting. And I've told gay jokes around straight people to let them know that I'm not hypersensitive about being gay. It seems to always leave a good impression. (Well, okay, I think some of the gay guys sometimes get offended, but if they talk to me for a minute, they'll realize I'm cool.)

 

[D_Harry_Crax]

I don't care if someone is gay or not. I will say though, I find effeminate men to be annoying. Doesn't matter if you're gay or not, I just find "fruitiness" annoying, so if you were like that, chances are you wouldn't be my friend in the first place. That said, I've always imagined that being friends with a gay guy is like a woman being friends with a man. Sure maybe someone is checking out your ass when you bend over, but chances are they aren't...and even if they are, if they're not obnoxious about it, who cares. Now if you go grabbing my ass when I'm clearly not interested you've crossed a line, but there's no reason to think a gay guy is more likely to grab my ass without my permission than I would a womans ass

Because many straight guys, women, and even gay gays aren't comfortable around effeiminate men (who sometimes are straight, by the way, but usually gay) and most everyone seems more comfortable around "straight-acting" gay men than effeminate men, this suggests that sexism-driven gender roles are at the root of homophobia.

 

[invisibleman]

Because many straight guys, women, and even gay gays aren't comfortable around effeiminate men (who sometimes are straight, by the way, but usually gay) and most everyone seems more comfortable around "straight-acting" gay men than effeminate men, this suggests that sexism-driven gender roles are at the root of homophobia.

That is true. I have met about four straight guys who were the most flaming queens yet they loved women and two of them were married and had children.

 

[MisterMark]

Because many straight guys, women, and even gay gays aren't comfortable around effeiminate men (who sometimes are straight, by the way, but usually gay) and most everyone seems more comfortable around "straight-acting" gay men than effeminate men, this suggests that sexism-driven gender roles are at the root of homophobia.

Absolutely. There's a hostility toward femininity. Then add to that people's ideas of how a man is "supposed" to act, and you get a seriously homophobic culture. The boundaries of what is acceptable for male behavior are still very rigid.

I'm amazed in a way that with all of the gay acceptance among younger people, you still see many of them say that they hate effeminate gay guys, or that effeminate guys should "just stop acting like that". Nice. I wonder how much they'd enjoy it if someone told them that they need to suppress their personalities everywhere they go unless they want to be shunned by society.

Jerks.

 

[croupier87]

I had a friend that I found out is gay and told me he liked me. I never hung out with him after that. One of the reasons is that I don't want people thinking that I'm gay if I'm hanging out with a gay guy. Another HUGE reason is that he tried to keep convincing me that I am gay and that I'm in denial... He told me that his fortune teller told him that I'm gay and I'm right for him........... what??? (that fortune teller also told him he'll stop gambling if he burned some chips and put it in his bed or something but he lost 10's of thousands of dollars after doing that) It's really annoying, last time I talked to him, he told me I got 'gay eyes' saying that I look around things like a gay person and told me I'll regret it if I don't come out early. Honestly, I never thought I would be a gay basher, but that one gay guy I swear I might punch him in the face if I see him again. When we were friends, he used to poke my belly and call me fat when I'm not and call me ugly when I'm not. He used to slap my face and punch me all the time but I never hit back because he's so much smaller and got no muscle whatsoever HOWEVER he would say later that I didn't hit back because I'm gay. One time I did hit back and he screamed and told me something like 'you have so much more muscle than me and I'm skin and bone, how can you hit me'. Are all gay people like this?

I know I'm not gay but it's just the fact that someone thinks I'm gay and talks to me like I'm in denial really pisses me off. When I went over to his house once, I was tired and he kept insisting me I sleep on his bed while he's lying on bed also. So I did sleep on the bed for a little while and now in retrospect maybe he thought I'm gay because of that. HUGE MISTAKE on my part.

And to those feminine 'sissy' men as people call em. I don't have anything against feminine gay guys. There were several feminine gay guys at my previous job and when it takes average person 5 sec to find out they're gay, it usually takes me a year. I don't like feminine acting guys because it seems made up. However there was one feminine gay coworker that I really got along well with. So at the end of the day, it's about personality when choosing friends but first impressions/stereotyping do play.

 

[MisterMark]

I had a friend that I found out is gay and told me he liked me. I never hung out with him after that. One of the reasons is that I don't want people thinking that I'm gay if I'm hanging out with a gay guy. Another HUGE reason is that he tried to keep convincing me that I am gay and that I'm in denial... He told me that his fortune teller told him that I'm gay and I'm right for him........... what??? (that fortune teller also told him he'll stop gambling if he burned some chips and put it in his bed or something but he lost 10's of thousands of dollars after doing that) It's really annoying, last time I talked to him, he told me I got 'gay eyes' saying that I look around things like a gay person and told me I'll regret it if I don't come out early. Honestly, I never thought I would be a gay basher, but that one gay guy I swear I might punch him in the face if I see him again. When we were friends, he used to poke my belly and call me fat when I'm not and call me ugly when I'm not. He used to slap my face and punch me all the time but I never hit back because he's so much smaller and got no muscle whatsoever HOWEVER he would say later that I didn't hit back because I'm gay. One time I did hit back and he screamed and told me something like 'you have so much more muscle than me and I'm skin and bone, how can you hit me'. Are all gay people like this?

I'm hoping that the two of you were very young. What you described sounds like two kids. Whatever the case may have been, it doesn't sound like it was much of a friendship.

And no, not all gay people are like that.

 

[croupier87]

No, we were young adults. Barely 20 back then. He acted young and looked like 13. He always like to giggle when he hit me and stuff but I don't act like that. He even used to slap me while I'm driving. I slept in his house once because we were out all nite without sleep. I only talked about the weird part of the friendship. He used to help me shop for new cheap clothes because he always dressed nice and I wear same thing all week. lol

Sorry about 'are all gay people like that' comment. I know it's not true but it just came out. I hope I didn't offend you.

 

[MisterMark]

Sorry about 'are all gay people like that' comment. I know it's not true but it just came out. I hope I didn't offend you.

No problem at all. There are some generalizations that could be made about all gay guys (they're all attracted to men, for example), but being childish and obnoxious (like your friend) is not one of them.

 

[croupier87]

He is annoying now and I dont talk to him anymore but he did buy me free food a lot and was nice enough that I lent him money before when he was having tough times. I just don't want people thinking I hate gay people.

 

[thick111dick]

As for suggesting that I am a closet gay for being an anonymous member at LPSG, that is just lame and show's your complete ignorance.

this site is for big cocks.
plain and simple.
either youre here to show off or to admire. you have no pics, so clearly you love looking at huge cocks.
id say thats pretty gay.

 

[thick111dick]

He is annoying now and I dont talk to him anymore but he did buy me free food a lot and was nice enough that I lent him money before when he was having tough times. I just don't want people thinking I hate gay people.

dude, get some balls - sounds like you make decisions based on what others think of you.

-you didnt hang out with your gay bud b/c people might think you too are gay.
-and you dont want people to think you dislike gays on this site? its a fucking website and anonymous.

grow up (it sounds like youre still quite young.. at least i hope so) and live YOUR life for YOU.

serious, youve identified as 1% gay...

how bad would it be if someone thought you were gay and really werent.
OOOOOOHHHHHH.
big deal.

you clearly have issues man.

once you grow up youll realize that what others think is VERY IRRELEVANT and you might even regret living this way when youre older.

 

[B_WER25]

Straight are not frightened by gay men, some straight guys are just assholes. If you were my friend for awhile and you told me, I wouldn't give a shit, you'd still be my friend. Your "friends" are obviously not realy friends if they're doing immature crap liek that.

 

[dreamer20]

http://www.lpsg.org/140524-having-feelings-for-your-housemate.html

Ok just to clarify he left his washing basket in the lounge and I took the underwear to my room to sniff. However its really tough for me , i have been getting some crazy ideas in my head like giving him sleeping tablets & taking advantage of him or getting him really drunk etc. I am young and don't how to control this...

Guys Hold On, No one is talking about rape here ,anyway in our country Men can't get raped, I was saying if I am drunk and he is really drunk maybe i can make a move on him...my personal view is if you comfortable with gay people generally you are more than likely be keen on trying a gay experience just once.

The reason why i took him in the first place was because he looks attractive, I live in prime location in Cape Town ... Regarding the rape its straight men doing it every 8 seconds in our country. For the Record i will never rape anyone i made this very clear however their seems to this rape culture in our society that almost kind of makes it ok to be raped and its like you unlucky if don't get raped.

I recently told my straight mates that I am gay ...I am no longer being invited to any get togethers , I met one of my mates in the gym locker yesterday and when I greeted him , he covered up , much to my horror. My question is :

Why are straight men scared to be friends with Gay men?
... what's the problem , cause now I am all alone.

In your housemate thread you contemplated making "a gay experience" possible with a straight housemate by getting him drunk or drugging him with pills. You also stated in your locality that is not considered rape and one should consider oneself lucky to be raped in your rape culture society.

Perhaps your mates are scared to be friends with you because they read these or similar posts which caused them to feel uncomfortable and wary of you.

 

[D_Mylor Mentallydaft]

your rape post aside, if you have to ask why guys in the gym are uncomfortable about a gay man, don't ask a forum filled with mostly gay men. ask the women why they want a seperate locker room from men, cause its uncomfortable for most people to be naked around people that want to fuck you.

its not because they think your penis might be bigger, MOST men don't pay attention enough to compare, and its not cause they are afraid they will catch gay, it's because when they are litterally naked they don't wanna be approached with unwanted advances. and before you lay the not every gay man wants to be with a strait man just because he's strait, re read your rape post. people want what they can't have

perhaps i'm just old school, but why is it a person's sexuality has to define them so that the need to be so damn open about it? rock hudson didn't, lotta those old classic movie actresses didn't, i am not chastising i am honestly curious, why is there a need to expose your sex life when not 100% nessicary?

 

[Principessa]

I recently told my straight mates that I am gay thinking that nothing would change. I am no longer being invited to any get togethers , I met one of my mates in the gym locker yesterday and when I greeted him , he covered up , much to my horror. My question is :

Why are straight men scared to be friends with Gay men?

I also love sport , gym , cars like most men do , What all of us do in the bedroom is private , so what's the problem , cause now I am all alone.

Well if this site is any indication of reality, too many gay men seek out straight men as lovers. Or they fall in lust with their straight male friends and then look for ways to seduce them. . . often while the straight man is asleep or inebriated. :irked: I wouldn't want to be bothered with that either.

 

[MisterMark]

Well if this site is any indication of reality, too many gay men seek out straight men as lovers. Or they fall in lust with their straight male friends and then look for ways to seduce them. . . often while the straight man is asleep or inebriated. :irked: I wouldn't want to be bothered with that either.

Even if what you're saying is true, why does it make you angry?

Hopefully you're not forgetting about all of the "straight" men who get inebriated together and then try to get into each others' pants.

 

[D_Mylor Mentallydaft]

Even if what you're saying is true, why does it make you angry?

Hopefully you're not forgetting about all of the "straight" men who get inebriated together and then try to get into each others' pants.

...... i must be forgetting to mark, cause.... I am drawing a big ol'blank ..................tell me about all the strait men that get drunk and try to get into each others pants..... in reality, not in porno, if you please

 

[MisterMark]

...... i must be forgetting to mark, cause.... I am drawing a big ol'blank ..................tell me about all the strait men that get drunk and try to get into each others pants..... in reality, not in porno, if you please

I'm sure you know that sexual orientation is not black and white. There are lots of guys who consider themselves mostly straight who occasionally have sex with other men. Often, alcohol or drugs lowers their inhibitions enough that they feel comfortable doing things that they wouldn't normally do.

Even flies become a little gay when they're drunk. :biggrin1:

Deric Bownds' MindBlog: Drunken flies get hypersexual - and gay

 

[D_Mylor Mentallydaft]

I'm sure you know that sexual orientation is not black and white. There are lots of guys who consider themselves mostly straight who occasionally have sex with other men. Often, alcohol or drugs lowers their inhibitions enough that they feel comfortable doing things that they wouldn't normally do.

Even flies become a little gay when they're drunk. :biggrin1:

Deric Bownds' MindBlog: Drunken flies get hypersexual - and gay

i said outside of porn.... i was the worst drunk in ga and not once, did i ever atempt to of have atempted upon me, a man getting into another ones pants........not saying it's never happen in the history of the world, just not enough for you to hold out hope