A question for 'mostly' straight men (80% to 99%)

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For the guys who list their sexuality as 80/20, 90/10 or 99/1 percent straight.

When you are in a situation where you are about to identify your sexuality to someone you have just met, do you call yourselves 'straight' or 'bisexual'?

The reason I ask, is that there seems to be a lot of threads that ask 'straight' men how often or under which circumstances they fool around with other guys, to which a lot of 100% straight men (COUGH NC_BBC COUGH) get exasperated because they think the questions in the 'ask a straight man' forum only pertains to them.

However, if a guy is mostly straight, for instance, he knows a buddy who gives amazing head when there are no women readily available, and therefore lists his sexuality as 90/10 straight, is this really a fair depiction of bisexuality? Wouldn't bisexuality be more accurately represented as 60/40, 50/50 and 40/60? Maybe even 70/30 and 30/70?

Would it hardly be surprising if a 90/10 or even an 80/20 man said he was 'straight' to someone in person, outside of LPSG-land?

So I would be interested to know if you 'mostly' straight guys identify yourselves as 'straight' or 'bisexual' in day to day life outside of these forums.
 

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In case you hadn't noticed, there's an " ask a bisexual" forum.
If you are willing to have sex with both genders, regardless of your profile percentages, you are bisexual. Feel free to ask one of your " would you ever..." questions there, as it would be most appropriate.
NC BBC was correctly answering correctly.
How you think people want to identify themselves " outside lpsg- land" doesn't matter..... YOU ASKED IT HERE.
Ask your questions in the proper forum and stop bitching about it.
 

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Lol, I love that there are so many misconceptions about my stance on this subject.

I keep repeating my thoughts on it and people keep ignorning them in favor of the typical, thoughtless "homophobia" lable.

My stance on this is the same as my stance on everything else.....logic rules all.

The only people who argue with logic are the ignorant. Some people are ignorant because of a lack of knowledge, and others are just willfully ignorant and attempt to justify their ignorance with personal opinion or feelings. Which have nothing to do with facts.

Facts like:

Sexual activity between 2 men is .... homosexual.
Someone who enjoys sexual activity with both genders is.... bisexual.

Your thoughts and feelings on that really doesn't matter. Those are FACTS. Things that are not ambiguous enough to just change based on personal opinions.

But, here in "LPSG land" facts can be manipulated to cater to even the most ridiculous of ideologies. Like:

"Men can get bjs from men and still consider themselves straight."

"Men can fuck other men, but that doesn't make either of them gay or bi."

Looking for any sort of logical truth in the place is wasted effort. Logic doesn't apply in LPSG land. And anyone who uses it in THIS context is OBVIOUSLY a homophobe.
 

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In case you hadn't noticed, there's an " ask a bisexual" forum.

I am fully aware that there is a bisexual forum. However, the individuals I'm posing my question to may or may not consider themselves as such.

Ask your questions in the proper forum and stop bitching about it.

I am asking my question in the proper forum and if you had actually read my post objectively you would have found that I'm not 'bitching' about anything but am genuinely curious about the response from said individuals.

Lol, I love that there are so many misconceptions about my stance on this subject.

What misconception? I know exactly what your stance on the subject is. Speaking of misconceptions, you are replying to a post that wasn't even directed toward you, therefore being completely off-topic since you're not even capable of answering the question that I put forward in my OP. On top that, it ironically makes true what I said earlier about you 100% people thinking that anything posted in this forum only applies to them.

I keep repeating my thoughts on it and people keep ignorning them in favor of the typical, thoughtless "homophobia" lable.

I've never mentioned anything about you being homophobic. If you're going to go through the trouble of replying to post that wasn't even meant for you, at least make an effort to read it.

My stance on this is the same as my stance on everything else.....logic rules all.

Then we'll get along greatly. However, you'll find logic only works for you if you correctly understand the contents of the post you are replying to, which after reading your reply, you clearly didn't.

The only people who argue with logic are the ignorant.

Obviously.

Facts like:

Sexual activity between 2 men is .... homosexual.

No, it's a homosexual act. An act does not automatically and permanently describe a state of being.

If I masturbate, does that mean I'm a narcissist?

If you masturbate, does that mean you're not really straight?

If you fix your toilet once in a while, does that make you a plumber?

Sexuality is not defined by acts, it's defined by physical attraction. Sexual acts and sexual attraction are not mutually inclusive.

If a guy bangs an average of three chick a week but let's a buddy blow him while he watches lesbian porn on a slow week, say, once every three months, do you honestly think that he is incontrovertibly bisexual? And even if you do, do you think that any such individual will identify himself as bisexual?

Your thoughts and feelings on that really doesn't matter.

Of course not.

"Men can get bjs from men and still consider themselves straight."

"Men can fuck other men, but that doesn't make either of them gay or bi."

Depends on the circumstances. Sexuality is not defined by acts.

Does that act of getting head from a guy make you homosexual? No.

Does does getting sexually aroused by a good looking man make you homosexual? Yes.

See the difference?

Looking for any sort of logical truth in the place is wasted effort. Logic doesn't apply in LPSG land.

Your logic is misplaced since you're defining sexuality incorrectly.
 

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Smh, come on man. At least TRY to read and research before ATTEMPTING to sound condescending.

What misconception? I know exactly what your stance on the subject is. Speaking of misconceptions, you are replying to a post that wasn't even directed toward you, therefore being completely off-topic since you're not even capable of answering the question that I put forward in my OP. On top that, it ironically makes true what I said earlier about you 100% people thinking that anything posted in this forum only applies to them.

I've never mentioned anything about you being homophobic. If you're going to go through the trouble of replying to post that wasn't even meant for you, at least make an effort to read it.

First, let me make it clear...anytime you mention my name (Cough* NC_BBC) you invite me to speak on my behalf. Don't like it, don't mention me. Make sense? It should.

Second, you're an average user here. Not a mod or admin. Mods and Admin set the rules as to who can reply where in this forum. Each of the "Ask someone" sections has their own rules as to who may or may not respond to posted threads. The rule of THIS sections is "Ask a straight man anything. Only straight men can respond to questions." That is a rule set by the Mod/Admin team, who are the powers at be. Therefore, you need to understand nobody gives a shit about your little "sub-rules". I answer where I am permitted by the powers at be, especially when some pseudo-smart ass mentions my name. Ok? Let's move on...



Then we'll get along greatly. However, you'll find logic only works for you if you correctly understand the contents of the post you are replying to, which after reading your reply, you clearly didn't.

No, it's a homosexual act. An act does not automatically and permanently describe a state of being.

So, by this irrational reasoning, someone who goes around raping people, isn't necessarily a rapist? I mean, an act doesn't define a person, right? A person who smokes crack, isn't a crack head?

Please point to the logic in your claim, because I see none.
 

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If I masturbate, does that mean I'm a narcissist?

If you masturbate, does that mean you're not really straight?

How would me touching MYSELF equate to touching another guy? I hate these dumb ass questions. They pop up in EVERY one of these discussions. Shows just how Typical you all (people who uphold this bullshit) are.

If you fix your toilet once in a while, does that make you a plumber?

Just to show you how brainless and unoriginal you all are, I'm gonna post EVERY instance where this SAME dumb ass analogy has been used, and answered.

Sexuality is not defined by acts, it's defined by physical attraction. Sexual acts and sexual attraction are not mutually inclusive.

If a guy bangs an average of three chick a week but let's a buddy blow him while he watches lesbian porn on a slow week, say, once every three months, do you honestly think that he is incontrovertibly bisexual? And even if you do, do you think that any such individual will identify himself as bisexual?

Of course not.

Depends on the circumstances. Sexuality is not defined by acts.

Does that act of getting head from a guy make you homosexual? No.

Does does getting sexually aroused by a good looking man make you homosexual? Yes.

See the difference?

Your logic is misplaced since you're defining sexuality incorrectly.

NOTICE the term is homoSEXUAL. Not homoATTRACTIVE... The term is used to describe habitual activity! I've had to explain this SAME shit to people who claim "it's about emotional attachment". What do you say to those people? Perfect example to show you all how delusional your ideology is. You all can't even agree on what it is to be homosexual. Smh
 

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When you are in a situation where you are about to identify your sexuality to someone you have just met, do you call yourselves 'straight' or 'bisexual'?

No one has ever asked me to identify myself. And I can't imagine asking anyone, either.

If I were asked, I would say I'm straight. I should change my 99% to 100%.

Actually, no, I take that back. I was asked, once in my life, if I was bi. I said no.
 

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First, let me make it clear...anytime you mention my name (Cough* NC_BBC) you invite me to speak on my behalf. Don't like it, don't mention me. Make sense? It should.

No, It doesn't. An invitation would be 'I would like NC_BBC to reply'. My use of your nick is simply that: using you as an example.

Second, you're an average user here. Not a mod or admin. Mods and Admin set the rules as to who can reply where in this forum. Eblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Sigh.... I know I'm not a mod or admin, nor am i trying to enforce rules that aren't there. I'm simply pointing out that you are off topic and incapable of answering the question that I put forward. Please improve your reading comprehension as it will get tedious having to repeat myself every reply.

So, by this irrational reasoning, someone who goes around raping people, isn't necessarily a rapist? I mean, an act doesn't define a person, right? A person who smokes crack, isn't a crack head?

Please point to the logic in your claim, because I see none.

Are you really this dull or are you just playing dumb to avoid admitting you're wrong?

If a person smokes crack once every three years for shits and giggles and has no addiction, how does that make them a crack head?

If someone raped a person in a drunken rage and regretted it for the rest of their lives, never raping again, how does that make them a rapist?

There is no 'irrational reasoning' involved. You are just desperately clinging to black and white definitions to bolster your beliefs.

NOTICE the term is homoSEXUAL. Not homoATTRACTIVE...

Nomenclature does not have absolute parameters over definition, especially in a language as fucked up as English.

The term is used to describe habitual activity!

Yes, habitual activity. Glad to see you're catching on. A person will usually make a habit of engaging in homosexual activity if they are physically attracted to members of the same sex which therefore makes them homosexual or bisexual. If the activity is not habitual, there may be other factors involved that don't involve physical attraction and so they are comfortable identifying themselves as straight.
 

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No, It doesn't. An invitation would be 'I would like NC_BBC to reply'. My use of your nick is simply that: using you as an example.

Smh....dude, my point is, if you mention me, be prepared to hear from me. Especially when you have no control over where and how I post. It's best you just not mention me...

Sigh.... I know I'm not a mod or admin, nor am i trying to enforce rules that aren't there. I'm simply pointing out that you are off topic and incapable of answering the question that I put forward. Please improve your reading comprehension as it will get tedious having to repeat myself every reply.

The question has been asked and answered so many fucking times it's ridiculous. But, without fail, one you pseudo intellectuals will pop up with a "new twist" on the the "how gay is straight" question, and then get offended when NOBODY upholds your bullshit ideology but other gay and closeted guys. So save the "tedious" talk for when you come up with something original to ask straight men. THIS topic is tedious and repetitive.... but I guess you all plan to ask it until you find enough people to agree with you.


If a person smokes crack once every three years for shits and giggles and has no addiction, how does that make them a crack head?
Why the fuck would anyone smoke crack for shits and giggles? This is definite sign of how little you know about this subject, AND addictive drugs.

If someone raped a person in a drunken rage and regretted it for the rest of their lives, never raping again, how does that make them a rapist?

Yes, if someone rapes someone else ONCE, that piece of shit deserves to rot in a cell for life AND be labeled as such. Think differently? Go ask this same ignorant ass question in the "Ask a Woman" section. See how they respond to your "A rapist isn't a rapist if he only rapes one person" bullshit.

Yes, habitual activity. Glad to see you're catching on. A person will usually make a habit of engaging in homosexual activity if they are physically attracted to members of the same sex which therefore makes them homosexual or bisexual. If the activity is not habitual, there may be other factors involved that don't involve physical attraction and so they are comfortable identifying themselves as straight.

If you took some time, used the search function, read the other countless rehashed versions of this same bullshit, you would see that this has been stated dozens of times already. Literally, in EVERY ONE OF THESE threads it has been stated that habitual behavior denotes certain labels. Drop the wanna be smart ass act. It doesn't work for people who lack knowledge on a subject that has been covered over a dozen times.

The FACT is, the only people who uphold this shit are....Gay men, bi men who call themselves straight for whatever reason, and closeted gay/bi men. How "ironic" huh? The only people who think men who fuck other men should still call themselves straight are people with "straight man" fetishes. Imagine that...:rolleyes:

If you took the time to read the previous conversations on this topic you would see that. Actually straight men (men who only fuck women), women, and a few gay bi guys with some common sense all agree that this "straight doesn't mean you can't fuck around with other guys" shit is just that....shit.
 
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Smh....dude, my point is, if you mention me, be prepared to hear from me. Especially when you have no control over where and how I post. It's best you just not mention me...



The question has been asked and answered so many fucking times it's ridiculous. But, without fail, one you pseudo intellectuals will pop up with a "new twist" on the the "how gay is straight" question, and then get offended when NOBODY upholds your bullshit ideology but other gay and closeted guys. So save the "tedious" talk for when you come up with something original to ask straight men. THIS topic is tedious and repetitive.... but I guess you all plan to ask it until you find enough people to agree with you.



Why the fuck would anyone smoke crack for shits and giggles? This is definite sign of how little you know about this subject, AND addictive drugs.



Yes, if someone rapes someone else ONCE, that piece of shit deserves to rot in a cell for life AND be labeled as such. Think differently? Go ask this same ignorant ass question in the "Ask a Woman" section. See how they respond to you're "A rapist isn't a rapist if he only rapes on person" bullshit.



If you took some time, used the search function, read the other countless rehashed versions of this same bullshit, you would see that this has been stated dozens of times already. Literally, in EVERY ONE OF THESE threads it has been stated that habitual behavior denotes certain labels. Drop the wanna be smart ass act. It doesn't work for people who lack knowledge on a subject that has been covered over a dozen times.

The FACT is, the only people who uphold this shit are....Gay men, bi men who call themselves straight for whatever reason, and closeted gay/bi men. How "ironic" huh? The only people who think men who fuck other men should still call themselves straight are people with "straight man" fetishes. Imagine that...:rolleyes:

If you took the time to read the previous conversations on this topic you would see that. Actually straight men (men who only fuck women), women, and a few gay bi guys with some common sense all agree that this "straight doesn't mean you can't fuck around with other guys" shit is just that....shit.


you win! I quote all your sigle word..
 

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If someone raped a person in a drunken rage and regretted it for the rest of their lives, never raping again, how does that make them a rapist?
Just wanting to say that this kind of completely killed any hope of your defense. In the eyes of the law and most people, if somebody rapes somebody else once, they are always labeled a rapist.
 

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For the guys who list their sexuality as 80/20, 90/10 or 99/1 percent straight.

When you are in a situation where you are about to identify your sexuality to someone you have just met, do you call yourselves 'straight' or 'bisexual'?

The reason I ask, is that there seems to be a lot of threads that ask 'straight' men how often or under which circumstances they fool around with other guys, to which a lot of 100% straight men (COUGH NC_BBC COUGH) get exasperated because they think the questions in the 'ask a straight man' forum only pertains to them.

However, if a guy is mostly straight, for instance, he knows a buddy who gives amazing head when there are no women readily available, and therefore lists his sexuality as 90/10 straight, is this really a fair depiction of bisexuality? Wouldn't bisexuality be more accurately represented as 60/40, 50/50 and 40/60? Maybe even 70/30 and 30/70?

Would it hardly be surprising if a 90/10 or even an 80/20 man said he was 'straight' to someone in person, outside of LPSG-land?

So I would be interested to know if you 'mostly' straight guys identify yourselves as 'straight' or 'bisexual' in day to day life outside of these forums.

I think this is really a complex question with no easy answer---if you take time to think about what you are asking. Without spending that extra time and giving you a simple answer--I'd say most of those guys consider themselves straight and identify that way. Just my gut feeling.

For NC_BBC...I have read your comments here and on other threads. You come across like an arrogant prick. Like you are some big, tough straight guy determined to "defend" all straight males in the world. Take your "logic" and "facts" and stick them where the sun don't shine. That's all just your personal opinion. This is a freaking blog/forum---people can feel and say what the want---with or without logic or facts.
 

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For NC_BBC...I have read your comments here and on other threads. You come across like an arrogant prick. Like you are some big, tough straight guy determined to "defend" all straight males in the world. Take your "logic" and "facts" and stick them where the sun don't shine.

I'm arrogant because I apply literary logic to idiotic ideologies? This jack ass said someone who rapes someone else....isn't necessarily a rapist. That's his "opinion". THAT isn't a clear depiction to you people that there IS a line that exists between a legitimate "opinion" and delusion. Need more examples of "opinions" that cross that line?

That's all just your personal opinion. This is a freaking blog/forum---people can feel and say what the want---with or without logic or facts.

Soooooo, this a forum exclusively for people who have no regard for logic or reality? Copy and paste that part of the Terms Of Use somewhere for me to read.

True, people can come here and post whatever half baked, ass backwards thoughts they come up with; that's their right. And it's MY right to combat it to my heart's content. And there's nothing anyone, besides the mods (who seem to have no problem with my posts) can do about it. I tell you all the same thing, if you don't like my posts, stop reading them. It's THAT simple.
 
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"People can say wht they want, with or without facts or logic".
Lol. Yep. Sounds like lpsg. Sheesh
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And I'll reiterate my point and the "irony" that the only people who uphold this "opinion" based way of thinking are people who like to play into the whole "I turned/fucked/sucked/ was fucked by/was sucked by a straight guy" fetish. Which is a completely oxymoronic fetish to begin with...but whatever.

You all don't get to read my pms from people. You all THINK this is some lone crusade to hurt peoples feelings and it's not. I just don't subscribe to the idea that logic and rationale don't appy to sexual orientation just because people wanna rewrite the definitions of words that were here long before all of us existed....
 

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True, people can come here and post whatever half baked, ass backwards thoughts they come up with; that's their right. And it's MY right to combat it to my heart's content. And there's nothing anyone, besides the mods (who seem to have no problem with my posts) can do about it. I tell you all the same thing, if you don't like my posts, stop reading them. It's THAT simple.

I love this. You tell me (and everyone else) "don't like my posts, don't read them." But for all those "people who come and post whatever half-baked, ass backwards thoughts"--it's your right to "combat it to your hearts content."

Like I said, you're an arrogant prick. Go right on "combatting" tough guy! Don't know where the rest of us would be without your "facts and sound logic!"
 

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I love this. You tell me (and everyone else) "don't like my posts, don't read them." But for all those "people who come and post whatever half-baked, ass backwards thoughts"--it's your right to "combat it to your hearts content."

Like I said, you're an arrogant prick. Go right on "combatting" tough guy! Don't know where the rest of us would be without your "facts and sound logic!"

I missed the point of your failed attempt at telling me who I am. "Tough guy" because I debate and converse with people on a public forum? Have I threatened anyone here with physical harm? Explain your "tough guy" lable. Because I see it as a substitution for the typical title people like to use which is "homophobe". And just like those lost, ignorant individuals, you lack significant reasoning to label me as such. This is just you all's only defense against someone you can't persuade to accept this ignorant ideology. Just call anyone who disagrees with you something synonymous with immature. Where logic and reasoning fail...you all result to name calling and irrational characterizing. And I'M the arrogant tough guy? Ok...

And please point out which of my posts hints that I think you all hang onto my every word and post. I personally don't care how anyone here feels about my posts. They're my opinion, which I have a right to post.
 

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You're right--you don't see the point, nor get the message. You said it right there---you just don't care what anyone thinks about your comments. That's why I'm calling you "tough guy"---sitting there all smug (and tough) behind your keyboard. Is that how you interact with folks out in the real world? Just say what you want, not caring how people will receive what you're saying? No, I did not think so.

You call people stupid, ignorant, ass-backwards because "that's your opinion and you can say what you want" in this forum. All because you have "facts and logic." Someone calls you an arrogant prick and you get bent out of shape. I don't have to explain "my logic," nor do I care to converse with you. It's a waste of time.
 

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You're right--you don't see the point, nor get the message. You said it right there---you just don't care what anyone thinks about your comments. That's why I'm calling you "tough guy"---sitting there all smug (and tough) behind your keyboard. Is that how you interact with folks out in the real world? Just say what you want, not caring how people will receive what you're saying? No, I did not think so.

You call people stupid, ignorant, ass-backwards because "that's your opinion and you can say what you want" in this forum. All because you have "facts and logic." Someone calls you an arrogant prick and you get bent out of shape. I don't have to explain "my logic," nor do I care to converse with you. It's a waste of time.

See, you're making ignorant assmuptions about who you THINK I am in real life. That's what separates you and I. I assume nothing. I go off what you all give me. And for your information, yes, I actually do debate with the same tenacity in real life. I wouldn't call it being a "tough guy". Tough guys make threats about what they would do to people....IF they weren't hiding behind a keyboard. Look at me... do I look like I need to pretend to be tough...online....to complete strangers? Trust me, my social life lacks nothing that would make me such a pathetic person. Need some examples of real "keyboard tough guys"?

I make no assumptions. The shit that I say can be found in books written before any of us were born. The shit you say is nothing more than formulations of opinion. It ignores logic and deductive reasoning, with no more of a defense than " I have the right believe whatever I want". Which is true. But just because you believe something doesn't omit it from scientific and logical scrutiny. All of you come at me with the same rhetoric... nothing new or original. Which speaks volumes.

And for the record you sound really stupid. Nobody is forcing you to read or reply to my posts. You make that choice, so please stop trying to make it seem like I'm begging you to talk to me.