A wal-mart hero

[Rikter8]

He should have asked them to leave.
If it was that Disruptive, they should have been escorted out.

We had a similar instance of it up here. A kid screaming at the top of their lungs had people nervous and leaving. I left.
The manager sat at the service desk nervous with co-workers near him not sure what to do. As I walked by, I said, "Your going to continue to loose customers the longer that kid screams". I and several others left their carts because we couldn't stand the screaming.
It sound stupid...but it was just unbelievably loud -and the mother just carried on like she couldn't hear anything. We honestly thought the kid had fallen and split their head open on how loud they were screaming. Worse...the employees just stood there silent, and nobody did anything.
It was awful.

If they can ask me to see my receipt at the door - they can throw out rowdy customers.

 

[Darkriff]

I used to have lots of noisy children in this neighborhood when I first moved here and the first thing I did was plant a hedge all round the property with various brightly colored poisonous berries. It's now so nice and peaceful here. LOL

ROFLMAO Funniest shit I've read all night man!

 

[yhtang]

I think that anyone who condones this behaviour was probably slapped in the face a few too many times their ownselves.

young children cry sometimes...deal with it.

I can see you point, but should the child's cries be inflicted on others, in a public place like Walmart?

 

[dolfette]

I can see you point, but should the child's cries be inflicted on others, in a public place like Walmart?

it's just a crying child.

she needed to shop. there isn't always time to stop just because your kid is weepy.
and if you teach a child that every time they cry they get to go home, you train them to throw a fit every time they're fed up of being somewhere. and THEN everyone will whine that the kid is spoiled.

unless parents never take kids out of the house there is no way to guarantee they won't offend someone by crying.

now i'm not saying people should have to put up with kids running around, throwing things, swearing etc. and i'm not saying it's ok to stay with your crying child in a restaurant or cinema.
but ffs, it's a shop and small children cry.

 

[Darkriff]

Seems to me that alot of the people here don't have children. I agree with dolfette. I have a 2 year old, if I were to wait for a moment as to when she was being "good" then I'd have to leave her at home while she was asleep to get anything done. I do believe in public ass-whoopings. I'm not saying I grab her by her legs and beat her against the wall or anything, but a quick swat does the trick most of the time. A parents life is much more hectic with a kid. Crying happens, if you have children it's gonna happen. I couldn't really see much on the whole story of what happened tho. Perhaps this old guy just hates children. It stated it was a crying child, not one running wild and rampart while the parents attempted to grocery shop not giving a fuck what the kid was doing.

 

[dolfette]

Seems to me that alot of the people here don't have children. I agree with dolfette. I have a 2 year old, if I were to wait for a moment as to when she was being "good" then I'd have to leave her at home while she was asleep to get anything done. I do believe in public ass-whoopings. I'm not saying I grab her by her legs and beat her against the wall or anything, but a quick swat does the trick most of the time. A parents life is much more hectic with a kid. Crying happens, if you have children it's gonna happen. I couldn't really see much on the whole story of what happened tho. Perhaps this old guy just hates children. It stated it was a crying child, not one running wild and rampart while the parents attempted to grocery shop not giving a fuck what the kid was doing.

yup, and he said to stop that 'baby' crying...even he thought it was a tiny tot.

just because you've had crappy experiences with naughty kids, doesn't make it ok to abuse a toddler.

 

[DaveyR]

There's a difference between a child crying and having a screaming tantrum :wink:

 

[Darkriff]

yup, and he said to stop that 'baby' crying...even he thought it was a tiny tot.

just because you've had crappy experiences with naughty kids, doesn't make it ok to abuse a toddler.

Exactly! You're the shit dolfette lol. At least someone gets it :wink:
If it was a child of 1 year or younger, there could be MANY reasons as to why one would cry. Teething, upset stomach, hunger. Alot of which would be completely out of a parents control to fix. And if it were a toddler, even so, if I wanna ruin my kids with lack of discipline, that's me. Just cause my kid's a brat doesn't give someone else the right to discipline them. But as I said in my earlier post, I'm a firm believer in "spare the rod spoil the child." I just take into account how Athena is feeling at the time. If I know it's late but I had no other choice but to get some shopping done, then I can understand that she's tired and cranky.

 

[davis67]

and truly, what does it matter if the child was crying just because it was spoiled or what have you. A stranger, or anyone for that matter, can't slap a baby in the face four times...that's just ridiculous.

 

[HiJinx]

Just because a person decides to breed does not mean that the world has to put with the offspring. Get a fucking babysitter if your child can't behave in public, wait until another time if the child is teething or has an upset tummy, you should always have snacks with you to make sure the kid doesn't get to be hungry enough to cry . Likewise, if the urchin is out in public, starts screaming at the top of their lungs and you can't control them, leave the store or restaurant. I could not care less that you decided to have kids, you need to make them behave. A bit of inconvience on your part, makes the whole world a happier place.

And I did have two kids who are grown now and I can honestly say that we never forced our children's behavior on others. We didn't go to restaurants for 7 years because my son would act up and start crying or bothering other patrons. We left immediately, I see no reason why others should have to put up with a screaming kid so he could learn a lesson. He grew older, learned to behave properly and we could go out again. Before that we had more meals at home or got a babysitter or relative to watch him so we could go out.
There is no reason why a child should be allowed to cry more than a minute or two in a store, less than that in a resturant. If the child is that uncomfortable take your offspring home.

 

[BigDallasDick8x6]

If they can ask me to see my receipt at the door - they can throw out rowdy customers.

HELLO!! I love that. I'm going to use it.

 

[BigDallasDick8x6]

Just because a person decides to breed does not mean that the world has to put with the offspring. Get a fucking babysitter if your child can't behave in public, wait until another time if the child is teething or has an upset tummy, you should always have snacks with you to make sure the kid doesn't get to be hungry enough to cry . Likewise, if the urchin is out in public, starts screaming at the top of their lungs and you can't control them, leave the store or restaurant. I could not care less that you decided to have kids, you need to make them behave. A bit of inconvience on your part, makes the whole world a happier place.

And I did have two kids who are grown now and I can honestly say that we never forced our children's behavior on others. We didn't go to restaurants for 7 years because my son would act up and start crying or bothering other patrons. We left immediately, I see no reason why others should have to put up with a screaming kid so he could learn a lesson. He grew older, learned to behave properly and we could go out again. Before that we had more meals at home or got a babysitter or relative to watch him so we could go out.
There is no reason why a child should be allowed to cry more than a minute or two in a store, less than that in a resturant. If the child is that uncomfortable take your offspring home.

If only we could go back to those good old days! People used to be a lot more respectful of others, including strangers.

 

[Ed69]

Just because a person decides to breed does not mean that the world has to put with the offspring. Get a fucking babysitter if your child can't behave in public, wait until another time if the child is teething or has an upset tummy, you should always have snacks with you to make sure the kid doesn't get to be hungry enough to cry . Likewise, if the urchin is out in public, starts screaming at the top of their lungs and you can't control them, leave the store or restaurant. I could not care less that you decided to have kids, you need to make them behave. A bit of inconvience on your part, makes the whole world a happier place.

And I did have two kids who are grown now and I can honestly say that we never forced our children's behavior on others. We didn't go to restaurants for 7 years because my son would act up and start crying or bothering other patrons. We left immediately, I see no reason why others should have to put up with a screaming kid so he could learn a lesson. He grew older, learned to behave properly and we could go out again. Before that we had more meals at home or got a babysitter or relative to watch him so we could go out.
There is no reason why a child should be allowed to cry more than a minute or two in a store, less than that in a resturant. If the child is that uncomfortable take your offspring home.

And the rich boy speaks!Glad you have the money for a babysitter ,not all of us do.:frown1:You sound like you are condoning what that man did.

Don't travel to southern Oregon,we gut shoot people for even trying to touch our children.

You had valid points about teething,colic and such.However you still come off like a rich ass wipe!

 

[Draconis71]

I won't get into the flame match that will ensue about spanking v non spanking neither but I fully accept your point.

I will add though that 20 -30 years ago a screaming child in a restaurant, supermarket or anywhere in public was the exception. They were very quickly taught that that behaviour was unacceptable.

In more recent years well behaved kids are becoming the exception. Very few times do I go anywhere these days without witnessing some out of control brat with parents trying to reason with them or bribe them into behaving. Bribery is rewarding wrong behaviour. Draw your own conclusions from that.

20-30 years ago, parents were alowed to punish their children.

Now, you've got kids who go WILD, and parents CAN'T control them. They try anything, the kids have the cops on them.
I've run into a set of the little shitlings. They wanted me to get them cigarettes, I said no. Next thing I know, I'm being accused of abusing them

Thing is, one of the reasons they've put in the laws against spanking: Too many parents would take it waaay too far.

Now, as for the old coot hitting someone else's child... he crossed the line.

 

[eddyabs]

I was out with my friend and two of her daughters (my Goddaughters) a few months back, my friend was heavily pregnant at the time, and her 11 year old daughter was playing up terribly. Love her as I do, she was screaming in the street, throwing a hissy, and she ended up punching her Mother in the stomach and spitting on her!

I have never smacked a child, but my instant reaction was to grab her arm, smack her bottom hard and verbally discipline her. When we arrived at their home, I sent her to her room, and wouldn't allow her to leave it until she had cleaned it spotlessly, and then apologised to her mother.

Sometimes a smack on the bum, and some discipline, do not go amiss. I'm not comfortable with smacking/slapping a child in the face at all though.

 

[dolfette]

20-30 years ago, parents were allowed to punish their children.

Now, you've got kids who go WILD, and parents CAN'T control them. They try anything, the kids have the cops on them.

i think that's a bit of a cop out.

i've never smacked my kids in public but they still fear the wrath of mom.
if a parent can't get the better of a child once their smack is taken away then that's pretty lame.

for me, three seconds of my ''i'm not pleased with you and we are going to have words about this!'' look is enough to get an apology and some manners.

...but then they know i'm more cruel than a smacked bum. i've turned around in a zoo carpark, after a two hour drive to get there, and driven them straight home because they were told not to bicker in the car...that worked a treat and they kept quiet in the car from that day forth.
a little imagination and a lot of will power. give them an understanding of consequences.

 

[vince]

a little imagination and a lot of will power. give them an understanding of consequences.

Exactly. You are right... it takes a lot of willpower, self-discipline and imagination.

If you can't control your kids without smacking them, then you are doing something wrong IMO. Parents have to jump on the discipline/control thing early in a kid's life. Toddlers have to learn the meaning of the word "no" and that you really mean it. Once that is accomplished you can say "yes" a lot more and that's way more fun for everybody!

As for the asshole smacking the little girl, he'd have got a taste of his own medicine if I'd been there.

 

[dolfette]

Exactly. You are right... it takes a lot of willpower, self-discipline and imagination.

If you can't control your kids without smacking them, then you are doing something wrong IMO. Parents have to jump on the discipline/control thing early in a kid's life. Toddlers have to learn the meaning of the word "no" and that you really mean it. Once that is accomplished you can say "yes" a lot more and that's way more fun for everybody!

As for the asshole smacking the little girl, he'd have got a taste of his own medicine if I'd been there.

i don't think smacking should be illegal,
i think sometimes there's a place for it.
but i don't think it should be the first resort in most situations.

kids get immune to smacking and yelling.
often the naughtiest ones are the ones who seem to be yelled at and swatted all the time.
it's not a serious consequence.

 

[HazelGod]

if a parent can't get the better of a child once their smack is taken away then that's pretty lame.

That's just it, though...many of the people passing themselves off as parents today are just totally lame people.

 

[vince]

I don't think it should be illegal either. I do think that it is the parents ultimate weapon of last resort and once you've used it, you've got nothing left. I never hit my kid. There was one time when she was two and I came very, very close, but I removed myself from the situation and calmed down. She never really needed the switch and knew that there would be consequences when she misbehaved. I never got a spanking as a kid either. Caught a lot of shit from the old man, but he never hit us.

I agree with posters who said that parents need to remove an upset kid from public situations. It's the best way to lower everyone's stress levels, including the kid's.