About ex-con men being exploited by gay world

[pass3434]

Recently I had found out a rather hot but also disturbing fact. Lots of male straight ex-cons are being exploited by gay world.

this all starts from my curiosity for some gay porn actors in a local low-budget porn sites (I’ll not reveal the name here). I got to know more details of the porn studio, and then got to know some networks. Turns out lots of the actors are excons who have problems finding a job in their 20s/30s so they cannot make much money from regular jobs. Lots of them are with addictions and do not know how to spend their money wisely.

and the crazy part is, there are “agents” in the gay world actively looking for their infos online (and yes, excons personal infos can be easily found online with their mugshots), reaching out to them, and solicit them into escorting or doing gay porns. Some of them even “help” then get back to their addictions again so that they can control them more easily.

most of them are not into what they are doing but the addictions and the discriminations from the society just makes life harder for them.

not sure if this has been a common thing in the gay porn industry or in the escorting industry. Also not sure how these excons feel about it.

what do you guys think?

 

[dreamer20]

Porn studios offerring employment to any ex-cons, regardless of orientation, is actually a solution to ex-cons finding work - as opposed to a problem. The true problem for ex-cons finding employment stems from employers who automatically bar anyone with a past criminal conviction from employment. That and other obstacles ex-offenders face are discussed here:
States Try to Remove Barriers for Ex-Offenders

I think you are too obsessed with the existance of gay porn studios and a non existant "gay world." Try to lend a helping hand to the less fortunate instead. Any ex-cons, or persons out there, involved in the Prison-to-College Pipeline Movement?
https://incarcerationnationsnetwork.org/prison-to-college/

 

[Alekzandr1168]

I think that the system is wrong, excons showld be able to reivindicate in society but there is a curse upon them, people should consider them for jobs, so what is the point for the punishment in jail if there is no chance to redeem themselves. Considering the porn jobs, i think that is awesome, i love those videos, and they are mostly used to fuck guys while in jail, so keep those videos coming please.

 

[pass3434]

I think that the system is wrong, excons showld be able to reivindicate in society but there is a curse upon them, people should consider them for jobs, so what is the point for the punishment in jail if there is no chance to redeem themselves. Considering the porn jobs, i think that is awesome, i love those videos, and they are mostly used to fuck guys while in jail, so keep those videos coming please.

It’s just crazy that the excons information are all online, with name and photos. Perfect for porn agents for screening

 

[Anthooonnnyyy]

No one forces them into it. They made a choice. Plus they can do other things.

 

[BUNBEA]

Recently I had found out a rather hot but also disturbing fact. Lots of male straight ex-cons are being exploited by gay world.

this all starts from my curiosity for some gay porn actors in a local low-budget porn sites (I’ll not reveal the name here). I got to know more details of the porn studio, and then got to know some networks. Turns out lots of the actors are excons who have problems finding a job in their 20s/30s so they cannot make much money from regular jobs. Lots of them are with addictions and do not know how to spend their money wisely.

and the crazy part is, there are “agents” in the gay world actively looking for their infos online (and yes, excons personal infos can be easily found online with their mugshots), reaching out to them, and solicit them into escorting or doing gay porns. Some of them even “help” then get back to their addictions again so that they can control them more easily.

most of them are not into what they are doing but the addictions and the discriminations from the society just makes life harder for them.

not sure if this has been a common thing in the gay porn industry or in the escorting industry. Also not sure how these excons feel about it.

what do you guys think?

Recently I had found out a rather hot but also disturbing fact. Lots of male straight ex-cons are being exploited by gay world.

this all starts from my curiosity for some gay porn actors in a local low-budget porn sites (I’ll not reveal the name here). I got to know more details of the porn studio, and then got to know some networks. Turns out lots of the actors are excons who have problems finding a job in their 20s/30s so they cannot make much money from regular jobs. Lots of them are with addictions and do not know how to spend their money wisely.

and the crazy part is, there are “agents” in the gay world actively looking for their infos online (and yes, excons personal infos can be easily found online with their mugshots), reaching out to them, and solicit them into escorting or doing gay porns. Some of them even “help” then get back to their addictions again so that they can control them more easily.

most of them are not into what they are doing but the addictions and the discriminations from the society just makes life harder for them.

not sure if this has been a common thing in the gay porn industry or in the escorting industry. Also not sure how these excons feel about it.

what do you guys think?

This isn't Beef Cake Hunter is it? As I do get a ex con vibe from the performers?

 

[pass3434]

This isn't Beef Cake Hunter is it? As I do get a ex con vibe from the performers?

Some of BCH performers are. Not all of them. I found one website with almost every actors ex cons lol.
Also knowing a few rich local guys targeting ex cons for gay4pay — they do first step screening on them from local crime report bulletin where the name, mugshot, age and crime history of these excons were exposed.

 

[kinky4myman]

No one forces them into it. They made a choice. Plus they can do other things.

It is tougher than you think. We have a gay/bi man in our group who was straight as an arrow. He was so hungry, always cold, and wet he said anything was better than living on the street. He contemplated going back to prison. The man tried for months to get work until offered a place to stay & food for sex. He found himself in a cycle of porn movies he couldn't get out of. He had no where else to go and was not going to go hungry again. He had enough time off for food & rest each day and then it was back to making gay porn. He gave up on trying to not be gay (as he put it) and began doing anything they wanted. You are often the product of your atmosphere he says. As it became harder core he felt himself slipping into that despair realm. That was at the time he met his partner. Who offered him a way out. They are life partners and now part of our group of couples. They both enjoy having sex with women and men but one mostly does it with the men and the other is as balanced as most of the husbands. He is very thankful for the lifestyle change but agrees it made him addicted to all things sex. We are not complaining. He is a wonderful friend.

 

[WilliamG]

It’s just crazy that the excons information are all online, with name and photos. Perfect for porn agents for screening

All of our information is online. Most all of it. Hell, I get agents calling me every month... Real estate agents... Offering to buy my home!

 

[pass3434]

No one forces them into it. They made a choice. Plus they can do other things.

I thought like this when I was in my early 20s.
But no, for a lot of the time, the society does not give you a choice.
A lot of ex cons made stupid mistake when they were young and had hot head. Then they pay for that mistake for the rest of their lives.

why were they so stupid making mistakes? Because they did not have good education?

why not having good education? Maybe you want to check their parents, or a lot of them don’t even have a family.

I started to realized in this world lots of people don’t grow up like us in a normal or let’s say “privileged” path. Lots of them have to deal with issues since childhood. And they are very easy to become victims of this society.

 

[deleted21466931]

Porn studios offerring employment to any ex-cons, regardless of orientation, is actually a solution to ex-cons finding work - as opposed to a problem. The true problem for ex-cons finding employment stems from employers who automatically bar anyone with a past criminal conviction from employment. That and other obstacles ex-offenders face are discussed here:
States Try to Remove Barriers for Ex-Offenders

I think you are too obsessed with the existance of gay porn studios and a non existant "gay world." Try to lend a helping hand to the less fortunate instead. Any ex-cons, or persons out there, involved in the Prison-to-College Pipeline Movement?
Prison-to-College Pipeline Movement

I disagree. Sex work is caused by inequality, and once someone is doing sex work, that inequality is perpetuated.

This is sleazy opportunism, taking advantage of desperate men who have no other realistic choice. I'm not anti-porn, I love me some good gay porn, but I don't like people being exploited.

 

[BUNBEA]

I disagree. Sex work is caused by inequality, and once someone is doing sex work, that inequality is perpetuated.

This is sleazy opportunism, taking advantage of desperate men who have no other realistic choice. I'm not anti-porn, I love me some good gay porn, but I don't like people being exploited.

The thing is mate, that a lot of guys appear in porn for a variety of studios who exploit them to some degree. They are welcome with open arms and treated well and the producers and studio employees falter their fragile egos and make money off them.

They are revered by the fans who get bored quickly and then discarded and replaced by a newer model. Those discarded models are not given any support to deal with the aftermath when they leave gay porn. Its a sad fact but I have seen it time and time again and nothing changes and I have watch porn for years.

P.S. The only change over the last few years is the OF/JFF Creators Baiters who have beaten the studios at their own game and taken control of their own work.

 

[BUNBEA]

I thought like this when I was in my early 20s.
But no, for a lot of the time, the society does not give you a choice.
A lot of ex cons made stupid mistake when they were young and had hot head. Then they pay for that mistake for the rest of their lives.

why were they so stupid making mistakes? Because they did not have good education?

why not having good education? Maybe you want to check their parents, or a lot of them don’t even have a family.

I started to realized in this world lots of people don’t grow up like us in a normal or let’s say “privileged” path. Lots of them have to deal with issues since childhood. And they are very easy to become victims of this society.

In some cases but that not strictly true as some guys in porn do have good educations, but choose to go into gay porn to make money and then move on. For example look that some the Corbin Fisher guys they appear on the site for however long and leave and go on to have good careers outside it using the money to pay for college.

Also not all cons have negative upbringing, in my experience, and choose to offend for variety of reasons and end up in the system. Just Saying.

 

[sundragon]

Recently I had found out a rather hot but also disturbing fact. Lots of male straight ex-cons are being exploited by gay world.

this all starts from my curiosity for some gay porn actors in a local low-budget porn sites (I’ll not reveal the name here). I got to know more details of the porn studio, and then got to know some networks. Turns out lots of the actors are excons who have problems finding a job in their 20s/30s so they cannot make much money from regular jobs. Lots of them are with addictions and do not know how to spend their money wisely.

and the crazy part is, there are “agents” in the gay world actively looking for their infos online (and yes, excons personal infos can be easily found online with their mugshots), reaching out to them, and solicit them into escorting or doing gay porns. Some of them even “help” then get back to their addictions again so that they can control them more easily.

most of them are not into what they are doing but the addictions and the discriminations from the society just makes life harder for them.

not sure if this has been a common thing in the gay porn industry or in the escorting industry. Also not sure how these excons feel about it.

what do you guys think?

I know one site that employs this tactic but what it also does is give them work/money that's legal when most places won't give you a job if you have a felony. Our system needs to provide a better system for post prison employment so there is less repeat because they simply cannot get a fair paying job or don't have the proper skills when they get out. They either go back to what they know, illegal income, or become homeless.

 

[deleted784661]

It is tougher than you think. We have a gay/bi man in our group who was straight as an arrow. He was so hungry, always cold, and wet he said anything was better than living on the street. He contemplated going back to prison. The man tried for months to get work until offered a place to stay & food for sex. He found himself in a cycle of porn movies he couldn't get out of. He had no where else to go and was not going to go hungry again. He had enough time off for food & rest each day and then it was back to making gay porn. He gave up on trying to not be gay (as he put it) and began doing anything they wanted. You are often the product of your atmosphere he says. As it became harder core he felt himself slipping into that despair realm. That was at the time he met his partner. Who offered him a way out. They are life partners and now part of our group of couples. They both enjoy having sex with women and men but one mostly does it with the men and the other is as balanced as most of the husbands. He is very thankful for the lifestyle change but agrees it made him addicted to all things sex. We are not complaining. He is a wonderful friend.

What kind of group are you talking about? He could make money telling about his experiences.

 

[kinky4myman]

We are a group of couples all m/f except the gentlemen I spoke of. He is out of that life style as far as we know (hopefully), it would be bad for him as well as all of us.

 

[tompg]

Not sure I would agree.

There will be other choices in most instances but a few hours of adult work with more or the same income as as several weeks of a minimum wage job would be appealing.

That's why otherwise straight identifying bodybuilders do gay activities. Their physique requires costly supplements and training regularly - making a long, minimum wage job not ideal.

 

[wvgwm52]

People say don’t want people to be exploited .. that might be your choice and opinion.. but if the person or people in question don’t mind being exploited then it isn’t up to you to say it’s wrong

 

[pass3434]

People say don’t want people to be exploited .. that might be your choice and opinion.. but if the person or people in question don’t mind being exploited then it isn’t up to you to say it’s wrong

Well do you know people who get exploited don’t usually have the rights to even “mind” being exploited?

 

[IdeaOfOrder]

Fascinating thread. Thank you.