ACORN at its best!

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  1. B_24065

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    I heard about this earlier today. The sound from the mainstream media is deafening. Glenn Beck devoted his whole show to it tonight. This kind of behavior is beyond reproach.
     
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    I wouldn't defend anyone who did what they're alleged to have done.

    I would take issue with the characterization of ACORN as "the organization that Obama depended on for fraudulent votes and who helped shape his adgenda", because that is a bald-faced untruth.

    And you misspelled "agenda."

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    oh those dreadful Democrats at it again. Grow up!
     
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    I mispell words all the time. You pointing that out to me is very mature and constructive though.

    and..

    Here ya go, in Obama's own words

    YouTube - OBAMA CAUGHT SAYING ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL SHAPE HIS PRESIDENTIAL AGENDA
     
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    The unhinged Right and their obsession with Acorn continues. :rolleyes: Are the men in white coats on their way yet?
    ...........the Republican rump, the party that’s left after the election, will be the party that attends Sarah Palin’s rallies, where crowds chant “Vote McCain, not Hussein!” It will be the party of Saxby Chambliss, the senator from Georgia, who, observing large-scale early voting by African-Americans, warns his supporters that “the other folks are voting.” It will be the party that harbors menacing fantasies about Barack Obama’s Marxist — or was that Islamic? — roots.

    Mr. McCain has laid the groundwork for feverish claims that the election was stolen, declaring that the community activist group Acorn — which, as Factcheck.org points out, has never “been found guilty of, or even charged with” causing fraudulent votes to be cast — “is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.” Needless to say, the potential voters Acorn tries to register are disproportionately “other folks,” as Mr. Chambliss might put it.

    And it is these 'other folks' that the unhinged Right can't stand. They aren't a part of Palin's 'Real America'.
     
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    Not to mention explanations. :wink:
     
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    While this seems like it may be legitimately concerning, 24065, why did you have to start this thread out on such a confrontational note? I wish everyone would stop being so damn militantly partisan. I feel comfortable calling you out on it, because I'm a conservative myself... I feel like there's a pervasive attitude of smugness and aggression displayed on this forum that isn't conducive to intelligent discourse.

    Of course I think I just come to the politics forum to get pissed off, so what am I complaining about?
     
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    * Sits in the corner and whistles *
     
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    I viewed this footage on Tuesday. Unfortunately, I wasn't surprised at all. The infrastructure of ACORN's operations is reminiscent of a drug-smuggling operation - mobile, secretive and so forth.

    Fraud has been running rampant throughout the organization for some time. As time unfolds, ACORN will most likely serve its own demise. It is a boiler-room level operation and has truly smeared and violated the very principles of its once-legitimate existence.

    Shame on the leadership of ACORN. The people it serves will be the ones that lose the most in the end.

    It is the evil step-sister of its political (and equally embarrassing) enemy on the opposite aisle - the fanatical religious right.
     
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    OMG not even close! First of all, the religious right isnt an organization that has a payroll. And secondly, when has the RR done anything close to this vile or disgusting. And dont even say Bomb abortion clinics and shoot doctors because these practices have been carried out by lunatic individuals who wouldnt even identify themselves as RR, and have been repeated denounced by those who the left has labled RR leaders.

    So dont even fuckn make that comparision.

    Acorn is an orgainztion that has one goal, and that is to defraud elections and Hardworking taxpayer's of their money in order to redistrubute it to the low life losers of society. Its a fucking take-down.
     
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    [Stifles laughter]

    That's footage from The Democratic Presidential Heartland Forum, held in Iowa in 2007. Several candidates for President, including Obama, Dodd, Kusinich, Edwards, and Clinton participated. It was tantamount to a Presidential debate, albeit in an unconventional format.

    "The forum, organized by three non-profits, brought together groups of community leaders from Iowa and several other states who worked on issues like farming, immigration and urban poverty." (See Dems speak at Heartland forum - First Read - msnbc.com)

    Obama indeed told those in attendance that their concerns (i.e., his constituents' concerns) would shape his agenda. Like any politician would and should.

    You apparently went looking for someone or something that would support your preconceived agenda as regards Acorn, Obama, "libtards", et. al. And you seem to have found it. Unfortunately, the fact that someone labled that video as "Obama caught saying Acorn and friends will shape his presidential agenda" led you to believe that was an accurate encapsulation of the video's contents. It is not, obviously, as even a cursory examination of the video would indicate.

    So, all we've really learned is that your research skills are shoddy. And not much else.
     
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    Fixed that for ya.
     
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    (stifles? laughter :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)

    What the fuck difference does it make where it was and who else was in attendance? When i made that claim in an early post you called it, and i quote, a "bald-face untruth".

    Anyways, the above video clearly shows that Obama said what he said, and the burden of proof lies on you, not me, to prove that he didnt do what he said he was gonna do. Unless you are suggesting that we shouldnt take Obama at his word.....?????? You cant hide behind the ol' "Well he was a politician saying politician like things".

    Obama was not only a community orgainzer himself, but he was one of the Lawyers for Acorn. He has deep deep ties to them and if you think for a second that his relationship to Acorn has not influenced his political agenda (like he promised them it would) then you a either an idiot or in denial. What is with you guys defending every fucking thing this guy, this party and its associates do?
     
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    No, Uncle Ruckus...
    I'm sitting back and watching your demise.
    Now, focus your attention on the people who are engaging you in debate and wiping the floor with your behind. I can't be the only one here willing to expose you as a rabid, irrationally thinking fraud.

    * Sits in the corner and whistles some more *
     
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    They're hardly comparable. The evil religious right

    - doesn't have buckets of taxpayer money earmarked for it in the "stimulus" bill.

    - isn't actively working to pervert our electoral system via systematic voter registration fraud.

    - had no links whatever with our current President during his "community activist" days.

    - was not one of the forces behind government policies feeding the property-values bubble which was in turn a major cause of the current financial unpleasantness.

    The relationship between the American ultra-religious fringe and ACORN is roughly equivalent to that between a minor skin rash and a full-blown case of leprosy.
     
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    Wait. How can a non-governmental agency do that? I thought the IRS was going to do that?
    McCain, trailing in the polls, fired the first volley, likening his rival to the socialist leaders of Europe and saying he wanted to "convert the IRS into a giant welfare agency, redistributing massive amounts of wealth at the direction of politicians in Washington."

    McCain, Obama spar over tax cuts - Decision '08- msnbc.com


    But it was the Bush tax cuts that actually did the redistribution as expected. And who will pay for those with interest?

    WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 — Families earning more than $1 million a year saw their federal tax rates drop more sharply than any group in the country as a a result of President Bush’s tax cuts, according to a new Congressional study.

    The study, by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, also shows that tax rates for middle-income earners edged up in 2004, the most recent year for which data was available, while rates for people at the very top continued to decline.
    You are just a tool....a foot solider for the top earners even though you are at the bottom. And it's pretty clear you are at the bottom.
     
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    The ACORN organization does not appear anywhere in the stimulus bill.
    The "Religious Right" did receive buckets of money from Bush's "faith-based" program. And I remind you that the organizations Bush gave money to actively promoted discrimination.

    See Florida, election 2000 and 2004.

    See the control of the Religious right during the Bush years. Far more present at the White House than ACORN could ever hope for.

    There is plenty of blame to go around, but ACORN didn't receive $700 Billion in bailout cash like the f*cking greedy banks and insurance companies.

    Exactly... the Religious Right is far more evil.
     
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