Adult Circumcision

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Personally, I think circumcision should only be considered for extreme medical cases or the inevitable religous ones, with which I peronal disagree, but whatever.

I really despise this notion of doing it so that the kids will look like Dad. I mean, come on, this isn't a "matched set." This is not a showcase prize package on The Price is Right.

In Canada, circumcision has really dropped, especially now that the provincial medical plans no longer pay for it. I think the rate is down to 4% or so.

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NYC8" said:
I know a guy who was circ'ed at age 13 because he was prone to infections. While I don't know how serious the infections were, it seems that once you've hit an age old enough to have a body self-identity, a guy would prefer to learn to be a lot cleaner or change his diet rather than cut part of his dick off.

Maybe it didn't have anything to do with cleanliness or his diet. Maybe he was as you said, "prone to infections". If the circumcision stopped the infections and the guy was ok with having it done, then what's the problem?? Are you saying that at 13 he wasn't old enough to make that decision?? I'm sure he discussed it with his parents as they most likely had to foot the bill.
 

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Dr. Dilznick said:
Jesus was a Jew 100% and never intended to create anything different. Well, at least the circumcision thing is what Jesus really believed. He would be disgusted that there are uncircumcised people who claim to follow him.

Dilznick I think you may have a point there, although Jesus mentions nothing of circumcision, and i agree with what you say about Paul twisting Jesus' words (not keen on Paul), but Jesus would NOT be disgusted about anyone following him, however weird, because to be appalled at an uncut cock would go against everything that Jesus teaches about tolerance etc.
 

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Hi Folks

I was cut as an adult; don't see the problem. Mine was to clear up some fairly horrific scar tissue which caused pain in sex and made keeping clean harder. It also was radical i.e. every last scrap of it was removed apart from the frenulum link.

I prefer my dick cut; solo wanking isn't as good but I'm not bothered about that; my twin bro liked the look so much he had it done as well and we both agreed it is a good thing.

My son's will get a choice though...

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dijstra1975 said:
Hi Folks

I was cut as an adult; don't see the problem. Mine was to clear up some fairly horrific scar tissue which caused pain in sex and made keeping clean harder. It also was radical i.e. every last scrap of it was removed apart from the frenulum link.

Dij

Thanks for this "hands-on" experience dijistra. I called my mum and asked her about my dad and his adult circumcision decision was recounted to me. Yours and his are nearly parallel reasons.
 

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Dr. Dilznick said:
Jesus was a Jew 100% and never intended to create anything different. Well, at least the circumcision thing is what Jesus really believed. He would be disgusted that there are uncircumcised people who claim to follow him.

actually the circumcision issue is in the old testimate, and it was a covenant bt God and the people, that circumcized people were saved. well this fell threw after jesus bc people kept rejecting everything that God made as a covenant so the Christian faith came about that if u believe that Jesus is God true son and that he really did come down from heaven and die for your sins and u offer your life to him thne your saved. This is the ultimate covenant bc u can chose to follow it of choose to not follow, God can do and infinate amount of things, but the bible says he cant make u love him.

Just a slight background on circumcision and religion.


Im uncut by the way and cant imagine not having the foreskin after having it for so long(eg:20 years)



Peace n Godbless yall
 

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Dr. Dilznick said:
Jesus was a Jew 100% and never intended to create anything different. Well, at least the circumcision thing is what Jesus really believed. He would be disgusted that there are uncircumcised people who claim to follow him.
Seeing as t[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]he brit mila (ritual circumcision)[/FONT] happens 8 days after the boy is born, I don't see how your "jesus" had any choice to offer input if he believed in it or not.
[FONT=&quot]This is the chair of Elijah. We await your salvation, O God and desire it. I have observed your commandments. Elijah, angel of circumcision, here is what is yours, stand to my right and support me.
OUCH!!![/FONT]
 

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Two of my friends were cut at 13 or 14; they were Muslims. For some reason, this is the proper time for Muslims to establish their covenant with God.

We were really curious to see the new circumcision, but we did not get the viewing. It is against their tradition for another man to see their genitals...really. Ahmed told us that for several weeks his constant prayer was "Please God do not let me have an erection!" Unfortunately, at this age the correct measurement is erections/hr.

Years later when Ahmed started to play sports, his father told him to shower and change with us. It turned out that his dick looked just like any other cut dick.

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There's nothing more disgusting than religious based circumcision. The Jews do it as a sacrifice to their god, Muslims because supposedly Mohammed was born without one. Sick.

The original Jewish circumcision was just the very tip. The skin wasn't cut away from the glans as it is today. The reason for the radical circumcisions of today is that back in Roman times, it was considered uncool to have an exposed glans while participating in sports. Guys with short foreskins used to tie a piece of string around the end so that the penis wouldn't pop out while exercising/wrestling. Well, of course Jews decided that it would work for them too. Unfortunately, the Jewish powers that be decided that to maintain their separateness, it was essential that ALL of the foreskin get hacked off. That tradition remains today.
 

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There is a large and growing segment of the Jewish population who no longer practice genital mutilation of their boys. And another powerful group who have reverted to the "partial" circumcision, which they still perform during the Bris(sp?), but only remove the very tip of the foreskin, which in and of itself is bad enough.

If I hear "I want my boys to look like Dad" one more time, I'm going to start forced facial mutilation, myself.

But then, if we stop the circ's...it eliminates a HUGE profit center for Physicians.

Just watch a video of an infant circumcision...it'll usually settle the argument.
 

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Nothing wrong with circumcision for medical reasons, as far as I can see. Religious reasons are another question altogether. In my space on the planet, people follow African Traditional practice, irrespective of religion. People have a strong tie to ancestor-worship over here, and in more orthodox, "traditional" families (read "rural"), the rite of adult circumcision is followed. Young men graduate, much like Confirmation or Bar-Mitzvah, or whatever, and are circumcised as part of the ritual which is held in the bush, in "schools" presided over by an elder.
A mate of mine told me a bit of the intricacies and ceremony, but basically he had his knob doctored (turned from a polo-neck into an off-the-shoulder number) at the age of 16 (he was old-ish) with a ceremonial knife, and ended up with a massive infection and septicaemia which was treated with traditional medicine.
In African culture, BTW, this sort of thing is normal, and if you aren't a "man" and haven't had your knob mutilated, you aren't really accepted or respected socially. You'll never get a position of responsibility at work, for instance, or become a tribal leader. Harsh, eh?
There is a movement afoot at the moment to stamp out the Initiation Schools, but I don't see it ever prevailing, despite AIDS, etc. and the fact that every year you read of dozens of youths dying as a result of these camps. Go figure, while you point accusations at religion. It'll take a long time before the rights to a natural cock prevail over the norms and mores of "society".
 

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ouch! ouch! ouch!

I am. my sons are not. When the topic came up we explained to them that we could not do such a horrible thing as mutilate our child--esp WITH NO ANISTETIC (SP).

Once I heard a doctor on the radio relate that circumcision shortens the penis by 1in. to 1-1/2 in. SURE WISH I HAD THAT BACK.
 

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Dr. Dilznick said:
Jesus was a Jew 100% and never intended to create anything different. Well, at least the circumcision thing is what Jesus really believed. He would be disgusted that there are uncircumcised people who claim to follow him.

This is more like my man's thinking than any self-loathing. Seriously, i'm too much fun to spend time with people who don't think they deserve the best. I know you don't know him, but give ME some credit.
 

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chico8 said:
There's nothing more disgusting than religious based circumcision. The Jews do it as a sacrifice to their god, Muslims because supposedly Mohammed was born without one. Sick.

The original Jewish circumcision was just the very tip. The skin wasn't cut away from the glans as it is today. The reason for the radical circumcisions of today is that back in Roman times, it was considered uncool to have an exposed glans while participating in sports. Guys with short foreskins used to tie a piece of string around the end so that the penis wouldn't pop out while exercising/wrestling. Well, of course Jews decided that it would work for them too. Unfortunately, the Jewish powers that be decided that to maintain their separateness, it was essential that ALL of the foreskin get hacked off. That tradition remains today.

You sound disgustingly intolerant of grown men's decisions over what to do with their own penises. Who gives a fuck why? It could be religion, it could be insanity, it could be due to the price of rice in China. If a man wants to get a circumcision, partial or otherwise, that's his right. Just like it's my right to pierce the hood of my clit if I want. Or a nostril. Or have a scar added to my face. If I decide to do that, I can. I'm a grown woman. I agree that it's unfair to mutilate children. But when a grown man decides for himself what he is called to do to himself, it is disgusting for you to no, no, appalling for you to think yourself better than someone just because they are willing to go to extremes (that do not harm anyone else) for their beliefs. Who the fuck are you? What makes you so great?