advice from a younger member !

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  1. D_ShiaLeTubeSteak

    D_ShiaLeTubeSteak New Member

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    Ok, I just needed some help with this guy I know.
    Were really good mates, and I've invited him to come over and stay the night next week, .. Thing is, I'm bi and he's straight. I kinda like him, I know I'd never properly fall for him, but I'm hoping to maybe have a j/o buddy in the making here. He is very comphurtable with himself and he really does seem the type who would do this but how do I go about it?!

    (I dont want any negative advice please, eg:"if he's straight leave him alone blah blah blah" ... I dont care )

    Thanks guys,

    PS: best piece of advice gets brownie points (ha)
     
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    Mention things like a guy you know that really likes jacking off with other guys but is straight. You can lead the conversation into how you have thought about trying that and gauge his reaction from there.
     
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    Buy some new porn and ask if he wants to watch it with you.

    Better yet, just leave your porn lying around and let him find it....it will all unfold from thier if he is interested....
     
  4. D_ShiaLeTubeSteak

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    I see what you mean but I wouldn't even know how to start that conversation without getting too personal too quick. Thanks for your advice! ;)
     
  5. D_ShiaLeTubeSteak

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    papasguy, good idea ... But im way too embarassed to buy porn in a shop haha
     
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    Give us more info:

    - Have you ever seen him naked? Has he ever seen you naked? (And under what circumstances if you two have?)
    - Are you two similar in age?
    - Does he know you're bi? (and are your SURE he's not?)

    Get into a conversation about how awkward it was being a teenager, how you seemed to alway be horny and how you discovered jacking off helped a lot. See how he responds...
    Mention how you used to j/o with another guy back when you were (13/14/15...pick a young age). Tell him you remember how fun and exciting it was to do that "way back when you were a kid". See how he responds...

    Let's see what others have to say...
     
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    does he know you're bi? if not maybe you should try and find out his opinion on that whole subject first. i know you don't want to hear it but as hot a fantasy as str8 boys are it's not always a good idea to bait a bull.
     
  8. D_ShiaLeTubeSteak

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    were both the same age, and as a joke I pulled his trousers down once and he wasn't bothered atall, ... We've never seen eachother fully naked, only semi in underwear as we were in a show once and the dessing room we shared we changed together in.

    He doesnt know I'm bi, but I'm pretty sure if he found out he wouldnt give a shit. But I wouldn't tell him at the moment anyway.
    Thanks for all your advice so far, .. !
     
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    I’ve done that before with str8 guys. Start the conversation off about somebody you heard about or know. Tell your friend he is str8 but loves jacking off with other guys and does it all the time. Tell him something innocent like you have “thought” about trying something like that and then throw in how you don’t think you would like it if the other guy touched you though. See what he says

    That way everything you say is non-committal and innocent. You are not saying you have done it or would do it, just that you have thought about it. You should know how he feels by then and even if nothing happens you haven’t said anything that can be used against you. Also, as another poster mentioned, having porn around and/or a few drinks should help.

    Good Luck!
     
  10. D_ShiaLeTubeSteak

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    that was my other plan, just get pissed. Haha, but no I see where your coming from, and to be honest, I reckon he might even mention it first, cos he's more confident than me but who knows!

    I'll pm you guys or something and let you know how it goes ... More advice is still ok though, I need plan C's to plan Z's haha x
     
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    be careful and don't push. I agree, if he is game, it will happen. If it doesn't you will still have a friend.
     
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    I've wanted to do something like that, but the risk is too great. Can't say I have any advice, but I'm not going to say you shouldn't do it.
     
  13. B_Rob15

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    If he knows your bi or gay it may scare him off many gays r willing to party with a bud as long as it's not labeled gay or anything. Just relax hang out in our underwears n all n you be yourself and go with the flow and push it a little every now and then, no guts no glory, if he's game you'll know if he's really not then back off that's all.
     
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    lifes to short to get stressed about it. be honest. just ask if he feels like having a wank. if you were in a play together odds are hes at least thought about your size changing with semis and all.

    go for it and report back,
     
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    MAN, just put some AWESOME PORN playing and let it roll... probably you'll be playing house calls more often than YOU imagine! :D

    p.s.: keep us posted about how it went... ;)
     
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    To be risky, just do the porn "hey, this is getting me horny. Mind if I jack off?" thing...but in all seriousness, he'll let you know if he's trying to go there.

    It seems alot of the time that you can talk someone into doing a certain thing, but honestly most people have already decided in their heads what they want to do. If he just doesn't get it and leaves you stiff dicked and lonely you'll know what his feelings are.

    There are alot of guys who are confident in who they are and that sends major mixed signals to people who aren't secure in who they are (not suggesting that you don't know who you are...just follow me) therefore when a guy does something that could be considered "gay" he's probably not questioning it as much as the other person is.

    So I guess time will tell wether your friend is family or just a cool dude.
     
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    Porn and beer has worked for me a couple of times.
     
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    Cool dudes that aren't family sometimes want to try a little something different with a bud too sometimes. Don't make it mean anything, just have fun! And if you two do have fun, don't start a serious conversation with him about if he thinks he's family now, lol. All guys have jerked a dick, (there own, lol), so it's all relative, no big deal, again, just have fun, be a little brave, no guts no glory, like everybody says if he doesn't want to he won't, if he's curious at all or just horny enough or whatever and you keep presentinf the signals and opportunities than he will.
     
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    Sounds to me as if you and him have been friends for a very long time. I'll be the bubble burster here I guess. What you have to determine in your own head is if he is a straight guy that wouldn't even dream of j/o with a buddy or not. I am the type of person that would much rather keep a good friend, then possibly lose one knowing his orientation already. I am also the type of person that respects his "straightness" and if I felt there was any risk at all would not take it if I valued his friendship. For instance, I played ice hockey in High School (yep lots of delicious jocks in the locker room for sure) and still play quite often in pick up games now. I enjoy ALL of the friendships I have made thru hockey. I enjoy the male companionship (non sexually speaking completely here) and wouldn't trade that or risk that. Some of these same guys know I am gay, but they also know that I know they are not. If you value the friendship, simply trust your instincts. If your mental signals are red, respect that. I do not think you would be asking if you KNEW he would j/o with you. Is a simple j/o worth losing years of a good friendship?

    Hell, to be honest some of the jocks I play hockey with are damn hot too.

    Last thing you want is to make him uncomfortable being at your place. For starters, he wouldn't come back if he felt this way, and you risk losing your good friendship. I'd rather enjoy his friendship and the good times you have already shared. Not everything has to revolve around sex whatsoever. A good, close confidante friend is hard to replace.
     
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    I totally agree with StephenMass. I know he's right because I made the same mistake you're thinking of making and it cost me my then best friend. Sometimes you just have to respect the other person's sexuality and NOT try to force a situation.
    In my case, it was a situation that was forced, but after a long friendship, one of deep trust and sharing truths, I allowed a situation to progress beyond joking around, and into a sexual field of play.
    Needless to say, several trysts later, the friendship was dead and truthfully, the sex with my str8 buddy was awful, not worth losing his companionship, at all. He was lousy as a sexual partner, he couldn't last for more than 3 minutes, told several of our friends that I'd gotten him wasted and seduced him, (NOT true at all.), and it left me feeling like shit as I was very close to his family for years.
    He got married not too long ago and I feel sorry for his wife, cause he was a real disappointment sexually.
     
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