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hung_big: Oh...that's your story?

Well...let's make you drone on some more: Where exactly is Chile (I know where it is, but I'd like to see your long, complicated responce)?
 

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Originally posted by db03@Apr 9 2005, 03:05 PM
Here are the worst airports i've ever had the misfortune to pass through!

Heathrow London

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I did not fully understand the dread term 'terminal illness' until I saw Heathrow for myself, it's old, dirty and a very sad place.
 

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Actually, technically the United States is named for its status as a confederation of states united under a federal government ;)

But getting more substantively at what I *think* you meant to say: Since the name "America," especially in its earliest usage, refers broadly to the entire Western Hemisphere, I don't think it's particularly odd that the name derive from a Latin American mountain chain (if, in fact, that is the case, and America is not named after mapmaker and explorer Amerigo Vespucci -- the jury's still out on that). Many, many nation-states and other political jurisdictions around the world are named for geographic features that may be unrepresentative, to put it charitably.

Steve (dusting off his esoteric trivia from college)


Originally posted by jonb@Apr 9 2005, 05:32 PM
Not as bad as naming the U.S. after the Amerrique Mountains.
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I thought that Amerrique reference sounded peculiar, but I wasn't quite sure. Guess that ol' textbook did you some good here after all, eh Steve?

[high-five]

Pigging back off of that, the United States isn't 50 states. A good few of these land of the free territories are Commonwealths according to the same principle -- here, a self-governing, autonomous unit in voluntary association with the United States. (Thanks for making it sound more spiffy, Dictionary.com.) Could we stand on our own should we decide to secede? Probably not, but that's more of a governmental pride thing, you see. We'll be part of you so long as you don't start handing down orders.
 

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I look forward to fewer airports in my life since my job has changed. But I have seen more airports than I've had hot dinners. (at least since they stopped serving hot dinners on a plane.) If my air miles were dollars, I'd be a rich man.

Many of the more prominent good/bad airports have been mentioned. Let me endorse them, and add some more.

WORST AIRPORT

Malpensa:

The airport equivalent of Tony Soprano's house. 50 kilometers from the city? That's comparable with Narita, except at Narita there's a reason. Consolation prize: Linate's worse. Cab driver insanity level: 8.5

Mumbai:

In India, confronting poverty is inescapable. And it starts at the airport. In most parts of the world, authorities keep nearby residents away from planes; in Mumbai, people live in the quadrants formed by the intersecting runways. I visited during the festival of Diwili (sp?), and as the plane landed, the locals were setting off fireworks in their backyards. Um...do planes and fireworks mix? Cab driver insanity level: 3--he stayed remarkably cool as our Ambassador was mobbed by beggars.

Heathrow:

Sad, dull, grey, cement 1970's Glasgow council flats are the obvious inspiration. And they keep building more terminals rather than fixing the ones they've got. Impossible to find which terminal your flight departs from. Since I'm such a frequent traveller, I get to use the British Airways lounge, in which I can never find a seat, so I generally find myself at the cheesy fake pub downing a Grolsch. Love the Heathrow Express, though. Cab driver insanity level: 0. It's London, after all.

Adelaide West Beach:

I know Adelaide is a mere provincial city, but there's no excuse for an Australian state capital having an airport that looks like the inside of your school gym (only with a lower ceiling). And you need to WALK ACROSS THE TARMAC TO THE PLANE! An international terminal that's a crappy afterthought--one, single, lonely gate. At least it's only three and a half kilometers from the CBD. Cab driver insanity level: 2 if you sit in the front seat, 4 in the back.

Sheremetyevo:

Be afraid. Be very afraid. Traveller insanity level if you take a cab: 10+. Hotel car driver insanity level: 9.5. "Checking out today, Mr Headbang? I have one of our best drivers to take you to the airport, Dmitri is very fast."

(That said, one of the easiest and safest ways to get around Moscow is simply to hail a passing motorist and offer him around three dollars to take you where you want to go.)

O'Hare, especially Terminal 5 (international arrivals):

I have NEVER made a timely connection here. Rechecking baggage takes forever, you sit for hours on the runway, the SkyTrain is marginally faster than a Radio Flyer. Whenever I point out to an airline/airport employee that this state of affairs needs some attention, they snap back that it ain't easy running the world's busiest airport. My replies are various--1) You should visit your rivals to that claim--Atlanta, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, DFW, or even Newark, for chrissakes, and see how many fewer times you are delayed 2) Then why don't you build another fucking airport, you dimwits. Cab driver insanity level: unknown. I've never made it out of the terminal.

Kimpo and Incheon:

Incheon airport in Seoul is a real showpiece. But it takes two hours to get there on a good day. And fog closes it half the time. Once, my flight was diverted form Incheon to Kimpo (the old airport) thanks to fog, and we sat on the tarmac for two hours while they drove the stairs from one airport to the other. (United didn't have landing rights at Kimpo, so they couldn't just borrow some stairs from Korean Air, or even talk to them, it seems.) Cab driver insanity level: 7. They're not much bothered by fog, especially since the car is likely to be filled with their cigarette smoke.

Wellington:

The land on which the airport was built didn't exist in 1900, but a convenient earthquake raised it from an undersea isthmus to a buildable swamp. I am told that pilots are on standby to abort their landing if Nature suddnly reverses herself. That means people live close to the runways and flight paths, too, a la Mumbai or Kai Tak. Strong winds make landing a challenge. Keep your barf bag handy. Cab driver insanity level: 2 by New Zealand standards.


BEST AIRPORTS

Melbourne:

Clean, efficient, great shopping. The airport Hilton reminds me of a W. Qantas Club Lounge is a godsend and even has its own bookstore. Cab driver insanity level: nominal. And unlike in other Australian cities, the cabs are all painted the same colour so you can identify one. Onya, Jeff.

Haneda:

Unlike Narita, which has its logistical problems, Tokyo's domestic airport is a delight. 20 minutes from the centre of town. Fast, efficient, impeccable security checks. And a six story shopping and restaurant complex. Never once had a delayed flight. Cab driver insanity level: don't take a cab, catch the groovy monorail from Hamamatsucho.

Hiroshima:

Unbelievably dramatic setting. There's almost no level land around Hiroshima that doesn't have a Mazda factory on it. So they sliced the top off a mountain to make a level surface. The approach lights for the runway are built on gantries over the sides. Breathtaking. Cab driver insanity level: extreme, since only a madman would drive the road up the mountain.

Newark Liberty:

God bless Chapter 11; it seems to have helped Continental make capital investment in ground facilities. Cab driver insanity level: difficult to tell, since no New York cab driver will go there.

World Champion Airport: Chep Lap Kok

Aside from having a name that sounds like a dance which the stripper might perform in a gay bar (always a good start) the place is spectacular, entertaining, and performs like clockwork. I have made incredibly tight transcontinental connections with no trouble. You can take an elecric taxi
inside the terminal. Duty free heaven. Cab driver insanity level: n/a. It's a 15 minute train ride from Central or Kowloon. You can walk to the train from most hotels.

Since all those arduous air miles made me OneWorld royalty, I used to have access to the Cathay Pacific First Class lounge. Awesome wine list. Decadent buffet. Superb noodle bar. If you want to take a shower, they don't just have a bathroom for you. They usher you into a decent-sized room with a leather upholstered massage table, spa tub and shower, where someone has drawn a warm bath. You can relax there as long as you like--never long enough, alas, since CP is generally on time. There's a water feature and strategically placed mirrors for perfect feng shui.

I rather regret that my now more modest travel schedule will deprive me of this privelege in future. Oh, well. Back to the pub at Heathrow, I guess.

hb8
 

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Can I just add one more? Charles-de-fucking-Gaulle airport in Paris. Rude, incompetent check in staff gave me someone else's boarding pass to a completely wrong destination and were affronted when I pointed out the coq up. OK, tete du dick stupide, fuck vous!

And the place is bewilderingly designed. It's upside-down and inside-out (which means arrivals are upstairs and departures downstairs, and you drive to a kind of hub in the middle and walk back out again to some satellite terminal piece of shit thing with NO BAR. Just let me repeat that again: NO BAR! Like what the fuck? Like plus ultra what the fuck?

Yours from le public internet kiosk by gate 61,

A very grumpy, very thirsty headbang8

PS. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
 

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Originally posted by Dr Rock+Apr 9 2005, 07:41 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Apr 9 2005, 07:41 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-hung_big@Apr 9 2005, 07:34 PM
Oh jesus...are you serious? That is completely bogus. You aren&#39;t at fault and they make you repay? Can you explain that to me...or are you as dumbfounded as I am?
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usually you&#39;ll end up having to pay a nominal charge of around &#036;100 or so to change your booking to another flight. depending on how difficult this is to arrange, you may end up having to buy a whole new ticket instead. I think the reasoning is that since it&#39;s not THEIR fault either, the financial responsibility ultimately devolves to the customer.

one of many reasons why the airline industry here has been staring rapid extinction in the face since 9/11. nobody is prepared to put up with their bullshit AS WELL as the media-hype "risks" anymore.
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I&#39;m sorry, I have to respond to this posting because it&#39;s not entirely correct. The difference between paying any fee or not is if your change is voluntary or involuntary. If you are at an airport and your flight cancels, it is the airlines responsibility to get you to your destination at no additional charge to you. I can assure you they don&#39;t charge you additional money to do this. They can endorse your ticket to another airline depending on the circumstances (mechanical yes, weather no)at no additional cost to you. There is one airline that I know of that does not have any agreements with another carrier for tickets and baggage, that would be southwest. If their alternate flight is not satisfactory to you, they will refund your money so you can purchase another ticket on another airline.

As for airports in general, I don&#39;t like them. I didn&#39;t like working in one and I don&#39;t like passing through one to make my flight but they are a necessary evil. Since 9/11 they have gotten worse. The worst part for me is passing through security. having to remove my laptop, take my shoes off, remove my belt, then get dressed and repack once I am through this is assuming something in my bag or on my person didn&#39;t cause me to be pulled out of line and be questioned. I have purchased non metal shoes and belts thinking that the metal detector won&#39;t sound the alarm only to have the sercurity personnel tell me if I don&#39;t remove my shoes and belt they will pull me out of line for a secondary screening.
 

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I used to absolutely LOVE flying. People-watching in the airport, and the flight itself, and arriving at my destination. Now, the thought of having to fly is just simply a nightmare for me. I have, since TSA takeover of security, filed no less than 9 complaints with TSA and with congressmen and senators over inappropriate/unprofessional behavior of screeners and their supervisors. I was not in the mood for their outright harrassment of me when I flew back for my Mom&#39;s funeral. Interesting thing, though - that particular day (in 2002), I completely lost control and caused a major scene at Washington National, and since then, I must have been removed from their "strip-search at every opportunity" list. But there are still problems. My last experience was June 2005. I went through security, no problem. But due to weather in Houston, my Little Rock flight was delayed by about 3 hours. I decided to go get a bite to eat and have a smoke. When I went back through security, one of the screeners grabbed my carry-on (previously no problem, and no changes) and just walked away - he didn&#39;t say a word to me. It just so happened that the bag was holding about &#036;7000 worth of musical instrument. When I told him to slow down, he got very hateful with me. His job is to say "Sir, is this your bag? Do you mind if I inspect it a little more closely?" I don&#39;t care what uniform or badge someone is wearing, they DO NOT just grab my bags and walk away with them. Especially with my beloved instrument in it. I used to love flying, now I just absolutely despise it.
 

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Originally posted by Dr Rock@Apr 9 2005, 07:23 PM
airports are depressing enough, but what I REALLY hate is being jammed into a seat apparently designed for a hobbit for 8+ hours at a time. the travelling conditions on board modern passenger aircraft are just fucking medieval, and there&#39;s no excuse whatsoever. my mother&#39;s sister DIED from DVT induced by her being cramped into an airplane seat with insufficient legroom to even permit healthy bloodflow. if I&#39;m fed up at the airport BEFORE I get on the plane, I&#39;m usually about ready to shit a kidney by the time I get OFF the damn thing.
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Sounds like my flight experiences (condolences on your lost aunt BTW).

Im pretty tall (over 6&#39;) and being stuck into a "hobbit seat" for say... 12 hours London to Detroit, is pretty much my idea of hell.

Especially as if you get up and walk around you get the captain screamnig into the microphone "FEDERAL REGULATION STATES PASSANGERS CANNOT CONVULATE IN THE CABIN DURING FLIGHT" WTF? we&#39;re in the air now, asshole, only law that applies is international law. Not only that but If I dont "convulate" I will die of DVT.

And not only that, but for some reason my penis has a weird "uncomfortable situations fetish" or something, and pretty much as soon as I sit down in the crouded airplane seats, I have a boner, which stays with me untill I get to where I&#39;m gonig and beat off. Now, imagine a 6&#39; tall guy with a boner sticknig up, stuck in a hobbit seat in coach class for a long flight.
:mad:

I really fucking hate flying.

Especially if you fly on an American airline to or from the states and you get all the anti terrorism crap too... you know... CIA agents in the overhead lockers and if you so much as shift your left asscheek, everyone else on the row pulls out a gun and a cop badge.

:spank:

Airports were the best bit of flying untill the whole 9/11 thing and now they are even worse, as you have to get to the airport like 3 days early in order to get scanned 28 tmes, strip searched, analy probed, beaten up, clearence checked, interrogated, and have everything you own blown up in a controlled explosion, twice, so you finally get on the plane with nothing but burn ashes that was your hand luggage and clothes which have been removed atlest 3 times for each security guard on route.


:rant:
 

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Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Aug 10 2005, 02:14 PM
I used to absolutely LOVE flying. People-watching in the airport, and the flight itself, and arriving at my destination. Now, the thought of having to fly is just simply a nightmare for me. I have, since TSA takeover of security, filed no less than 9 complaints with TSA and with congressmen and senators over inappropriate/unprofessional behavior of screeners and their supervisors. I was not in the mood for their outright harrassment of me when I flew back for my Mom&#39;s funeral. Interesting thing, though - that particular day (in 2002), I completely lost control and caused a major scene at Washington National, and since then, I must have been removed from their "strip-search at every opportunity" list. But there are still problems. My last experience was June 2005. I went through security, no problem. But due to weather in Houston, my Little Rock flight was delayed by about 3 hours. I decided to go get a bite to eat and have a smoke. When I went back through security, one of the screeners grabbed my carry-on (previously no problem, and no changes) and just walked away - he didn&#39;t say a word to me. It just so happened that the bag was holding about &#036;7000 worth of musical instrument. When I told him to slow down, he got very hateful with me. His job is to say "Sir, is this your bag? Do you mind if I inspect it a little more closely?" I don&#39;t care what uniform or badge someone is wearing, they DO NOT just grab my bags and walk away with them. Especially with my beloved instrument in it. I used to love flying, now I just absolutely despise it.
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Yeah, thats basically what ruined travelling for me... that and the leg space that would give a Sweedish Midget DVT.
 

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Coupla&#39; years ago, made the BIG mistake of flying coach on Continental Airlines to London. When we booked, I did early seat selection on line, and got the exit row (which helps when you&#39;re 6&#39;5" and too cheap for biz class). Big surprise boarding in Houston...cool&#33; brand freakin&#39; new Boeing 777. Seat assignments changed since the aircraft had changed since we booked. I did not know it was possible to get rows of seats that close together. I&#39;m in the center seat, figures. To shift positions from left to right, I had to grab my knees, pull my legs toward my chest and swivel. Which got even more fun cuz the guy on my right weighed in around 300lbs and the passenger in front of me not once ever, raised his seat back into it&#39;s upright and proper position. Also, did you know that on the 777 there is one f&#39;n row of seats at about midpoint in the steerage section, that doesn&#39;t have a window because of the way the plane is built? We do.

Edit: Worst airport in the civilized world? O&#39;Hare.
 

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Originally posted by KinkGuy@Aug 11 2005, 06:33 PM

Edit: Worst airport in the civilized world? O&#39;Hare.
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Its been a couple of years since I was there, but the one in Miami used to be (still is?) really nasty. Like a big bus station. You die from the exhaust fumes entering the building from the outside at the rental car counters.

MIA did feature one of the hottest bathroom scenes I&#39;ve ever witnessed tho. This young studly looking dude pulls up to a urinal to take a wizz. He stands like a foot or two away from it. He was hung and wanted everyone to know it I think. Held his soft but large fat wingwah with his fist, and had lots to spare. Not that I was checking him out or anything. :evilgrin:

Yeh, for US airports, O&#39;hare is up there. So are DFW, Washington/Dulles and the new one in Denver. I dislike any airport where it requires a long train or bus ride to get from one terminal to the next.
 

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Originally posted by dcwrestlefan+Aug 11 2005, 08:29 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dcwrestlefan &#064; Aug 11 2005, 08:29 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-KinkGuy@Aug 11 2005, 06:33 PM


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Yeh, for US airports, O&#39;hare is up there. So are DFW, Washington/Dulles and the new one in Denver. I dislike any airport where it requires a long train or bus ride to get from one terminal to the next.
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Washington/Dulles is truly one of the most horrible airports. My first time through there, they were doing extensive renovations, and there were NO signs, anywhere. I did not know I had to board one of those awful "moving lounges" to get back to the main terminal/baggage claim. There were no signs to point to baggage claim, nothing. There were no "officials" around anywhere to ask. It was just pathetic. I hate that airport, and I use Washington National whenever I can. I refuse to call it by its other name.

The Atlanta Hartsfield airport uses the trains to get from one terminal to another, but it is one of the most efficient airports I have ever travelled through.