Al Queda crippled

[sbat]

You mean the 70-something, 6'6" dude on kidney dialysis?

He's dead, bro.

I'm thinking of the 53 year old, 6'6", very rich, very well connected dude whom to date, has not been apprehended or even located by US intelligence.

And given the starfish structure of the organization, cutting the heads isn't enough, you gotta get the heart.

 

[sbat]

An idea isn't worth a shit without money behind it.

Which is why it doesn't matter who you kill if you don't get bin Laden. He's the billionaire 800 pound gorilla in the war room.

 

[vince]

You won't see Osama's head on a pike until he has outlived his usefulness and the powers that be have created, funded or invented a new enemy for us.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^Yep, pretty much... The new 'war' brewing appears to be against the working masses.

 

[B_starinvestor]

You won't see Osama's head on a pike until he has outlived his usefulness and the powers that be have created, funded or invented a new enemy for us.

If we're exiting Iraq, why would we need to keep that trump card in our hand?

 

[B_starinvestor]

Which is why it doesn't matter who you kill if you don't get bin Laden. He's the billionaire 800 pound gorilla in the war room.

It doesn't matter to who? If he doesn't have a distribution system in place his product won't make it out of the warehouse.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

An idea isn't worth a shit without money behind it.

Yes it is... It's still an idea that one can adhere to. And with the right spokesperson pitching the idea, who couldn't find the right people to donate their time, knowledge and resources to those causes?

Money ain't a thing without something to spend it on. If there were no innovation or people sparking any kind of ideas, then money would be as useful as toilet paper.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

It doesn't matter to who? If he doesn't have a distribution system in place his product won't make it out of the warehouse.

My guess is that rabid hatred of Islam by many Americans is quite a 'distribution system' for the ideas Al Qaeda peddles all on its own.

 

[vince]

If we're exiting Iraq, why would we need to keep that trump card in our hand?

Oh it's true, the time may be coming for a change of enemy. Osama is getting a bit long in the tooth. Who that may be, I don't know.

They could promote Chavez to a higher level as he is quite easily provoked. He could be the fourth member of the axis of evil. Turkey has potential to be demonized as well. They have not been very obedient over the last few years and are getting uppity. The so-called Great Powers can never have enough enemies.

 

[houtx48]

"I'd like to point out that the person who created this discussion hasn't a clue about what they're talking about - getting the spelling right for one would be a start.
hint, if you're so ignorant not to know how to spell something, you in all likelihood do not know enough to have a well rounded opinion of it.".............. ROFLAO

 

[liberalcynic]

Note to all: Some whiney cynic sitting around in Australia is a better source than the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in matters regarding Al-Qaeda.

Just fyi.

I may or not be a 'whiney cynic' as afore described but i'm sure someone who does political science, Arabic, international relation and middle eastern security studies at uni might know what they're on about (since they might just want those Ds and HDs....).

Look up A.B. Atwan's 'The Secret History of Al-Qa'ida', London, Abacus, 2007, chapter 8. or G. Kepel's 'Jihad:The Trial of Political Islam', Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 2002. Chapter 12. (though a bit dated, the principals remain the same)

ask yourself this:
Do you think the Joint chiefs of Staff would be willing to disclose all know information to the public? If they did, would that not risk the security of their nation and jeopardise their public policy? Isn't it not the case that what you're citing is merely public relations material?

oh and it's good to see you begin the spell Al-Qa'ida correctly, though not my favourite form...

 

[JacobFox]

You mean the 70-something, 6'6" dude on kidney dialysis?

He's dead, bro.

Your lack of education keeps rearing it's ugly head. Osama is only 53 and had a lot more years of terrorism ahead if we don't stop him. I am not saying he's not a threat, either, because I believe he is. But your post seems to indicate that you underestimate him and if you have ANY understanding of military strategy, you would understand how big of a mistake that is.

If it makes you feel better thinking he is dead, go ahead and do it. Most people in the world like evidence though.

 

[JacobFox]

And btw starinvestor, let's go by your theory that he is dead based upon assumption and not proof. If the government accepted that, THE MOMENT that he rears his ugly head and does something bad, you will be the first person who accuses the administration of being lax because they assumed he was dead. You won't admit it now, but I feel this will resurface on this forum pretty soon.

 

[Cobalt Blue]

We won't be hearing much from or about Al Queda ever again.

What planet are you living on? There are currently more than 3,000 British-born Islamists under 24-hour surveillance by the police and MI5.