Alabama!

[AdamHenry]

Thank you very much.

 

[keenobserver]

Amen! The absentee ballots were already counted and in the totals the networks ran tonight, The military ballots and some provisional ballots total no more than 2,000. Jones won by 21,000 so the results will stand. Alabama at a crossroads picked the right road.

 

[At.your.cervix]

Maybe, just maybe, this might mean that America can reclaim its sense of direction in 2018.

 

[Freddie53]

Thank you very much.

Very well said!

Trump ability to distinguish truth from fiction is likely to continue to fall as events keep going against his wishes and desires.

The Democrats have finally found a working majority. Senator Elect Jones has shown us how to get a win even in conservative Alabama.

 

[ozwestcoastboy]

 

[canuck_pa]

Great cartoon.

 

[ozwestcoastboy]

Great cartoon.

It's by David Rowe, an Australian cartoonist who is recognised as one of the world's greatest.

 

[chrisrobin]

So while majority of the Moore votes came from the Evangelical faction of god fearing voters what does that tell you.
Politics is more important than god, they'd rather have a girlie fiddler representing them than a Democrat.
So much for god
And do those born again Christians really thing it was right, mind you they don't believe in evolution do they know the world isn't flat and they are obviously happy with underage sexual relations, probably incest as well!.
Actually
sound just like Trump - who is blaming the Republican loss on having the wrong candidate who's figures were rising - and yet he got right behind Moore - who incidentally has a Jewish lawyer according to his much younger wife so he's obviously not a racist or a bigot - urging voters right up to the last moment to vote Moore.
Frankly I'd rather believe a used car salesman than Donald "fake news" Trump.
Ah Donald, you win some, you lose some and you cut your losses - get back on twitter and sexually harass some lady or other just to prove you're the man.

 

[Industrialsize]

Let this sink in - Jefferson Beauregard Sessions’ Senate seat was taken by a civil rights lawyer who convicted Klansmen. Justice is sweet.

 

[KennF]

I just think that people shouldn't read too much into the win.

a) Roy Moore carried a ton of baggage with him to the race;
b) Bannon and Trump were at odds over the race, so the alt-right had conflicting messages;
c) Republicans were splintering over the race

Doug Jones won, not by an overwhelming message, but by Roy Moore losing the election by being over-confident and only playing to his base.

And, while the seat change is helpful, it doesn't change the fundamental situation in the Congress. It grants greater power to individual Republican senators.

Lastly, while Jones will enter the Senate, he will have to run for re-election in the next presidential cycle (2020). It is difficult to see him retaining the seat long term. The 2020 map favors the Democrats, however, I don't see too many toss-up seats in 2020.

To be sure, last night was good news for Democrats. I just hope people don't think it is some tide-turning event.

 

[Industrialsize]

I just think that people shouldn't read too much into the win.

a) Roy Moore carried a ton of baggage with him to the race;
b) Bannon and Trump were at odds over the race, so the alt-right had conflicting messages;
c) Republicans were splintering over the race

Doug Jones won, not by an overwhelming message, but by Roy Moore losing the election by being over-confident and only playing to his base.

And, while the seat change is helpful, it doesn't change the fundamental situation in the Congress. It grants greater power to individual Republican senators.

Lastly, while Jones will enter the Senate, he will have to run for re-election in the next presidential cycle (2020). It is difficult to see him retaining the seat long term. The 2020 map favors the Democrats, however, I don't see too many toss-up seats in 2020.

To be sure, last night was good news for Democrats. I just hope people don't think it is some tide-turning event.

Last night showed that the #resistance, coupled with #metoo, can flip a ruby red senate seat to blue.

 

[deleted15807]

And in spite of Alabama's notorious efforts in voter suppression. It didn't work out..

African American Voters Made Doug Jones a U.S. Senator in Alabama​

And our allies across the pond are very pleased...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...by-trump/ar-BBGGdTL?li=AA4Zpp&ocid=spartanntp

Analysis: Alabama election result seen as ‘miracle’ in a Europe horrified by Trump​

 

[KennF]

Last night showed that the #resistance, coupled with #metoo, can flip a ruby red senate seat to blue.

Last night only showed that the #resistance, coupled with #metoo, (and others), won the open Alabama senate seat against a deeply-flawed, extremist candidate accused of being a pedophile and sexual harasser while the underlying establishment and populists divided against themselves in an off-cycle special election.

Looking as the turn out #'s, Democrats turned out about 75% of a presidential cycle, while Republicans turned out just under half as many as a presidential cycle.

Review the results and you will see that the Write-In results (approx. 22K), exceeded the win threshold (approx. 21K).

Supposing a different Republican candidate, or, united Republican machine, or a secondary reason to vote, no one can say with any level of confidence whether the state would have flipped or not.

Breakdown of some numbers:

Alabama's Voter Rolls....
Total 3.1 Million (2.7 Million classified as 'Active')

Democrats 1.085 Million (35%)
Republicans 1.612 Million (52%)
No Affiliation 0.403 Million (13%)​

Voted 1.3 Million

For Jones 671K
For Moore 650K
Write-In 22K​

Here are some other numbers...

While women voted for Jones 58%-42%, white women went to Moore 65%-35%
Abortion played a larger roll than expected with Jones 19% and Moore getting 81%
Trump played a significant roll... 90% of those that Approved of Trump went for Moore and only 7% of those that Disapproved of Trump voted for Moore.
Education factor played in as well... 77% white with no degree went for Moore over Jones' 23%
Lastly, of the people who decided last minute 58% went for Moore.​

So, I might not classify it as the Democratic message "winning", but rather as the Republican candidate and dysfunction "losing".

 

[Industrialsize]

#resistance plus #metoo equals big blue wave in 2018.

 

[TexanStar]

So, I might not classify it as the Democratic message "winning", but rather as the Republican candidate and dysfunction "losing".

To an extent. But it was also lost by conservative voters in Alabama who flocked towards such a stinker during the primary, and the taint of this guy now clings to those who supported him like Trump. They're all gonna get queried about how they can claim to support family values and yet were lined up behind a fuckin pedo for national office.

Agreed that Jones would've lost if GOP had put a better candidate up there, but they didn't. They chose a deranged pedophile to be their standard bearer and whatever is behind that dumbass choice is still floating around in the membership.

 

[KennF]

To an extent. But it was also lost by conservative voters in Alabama who flocked towards such a stinker during the primary, and the taint of this guy now clings to those who supported him like Trump. They're all gonna get queried about how they can claim to support family values and yet were lined up behind a fuckin pedo for national office.

Agreed that Jones would've lost if GOP had put a better candidate up there, but they didn't. They chose a deranged pedophile to be their standard bearer and whatever is behind that dumbass choice is still floating around in the membership.

Understood.

More to my point was that the Democrats shouldn't read more into it than it is. It is a win of the seat, but it didn't turn Alabama "blue".

Nor, is it a recipe for other races or some watershed moment where the electorate woke up and said... "we want to make governance work by understanding that it requires compromise."

Sadly, it wasn't even a rebuke on divisive politics, since it was the negative against Moore that won out.

Time will tell how much "stink" or "taint" actually attaches to others.

 

[TexanStar]

Understood.

More to my point was that the Democrats shouldn't read more into it than it is. It is a win of the seat, but it didn't turn Alabama "blue".

Nor, is it a recipe for other races or some watershed moment where the electorate woke up and said... "we want to make governance work by understanding that it requires compromise."

Sadly, it wasn't even a rebuke on divisive politics, since it was the negative against Moore that won out.

Time will tell how much "stink" or "taint" actually attaches to others.

All fair enough.

 

[TexanStar]

Understood.

More to my point was that the Democrats shouldn't read more into it than it is. It is a win of the seat, but it didn't turn Alabama "blue".

Nor, is it a recipe for other races or some watershed moment where the electorate woke up and said... "we want to make governance work by understanding that it requires compromise."

Sadly, it wasn't even a rebuke on divisive politics, since it was the negative against Moore that won out.

Time will tell how much "stink" or "taint" actually attaches to others.

I'll say this though, there are a lot of traditionally red areas that immediately come into play if Dems can find a way to replicate the high voter turnout elsewhere. Even here in Tx, for example, Clinton could've won if Dems had gotten strongholds like younger voters to turnout like they did in Alabama.

Some of it was so much blood in the water, but there's a chunk of it that's reflective of energized voters who are extremely dissatisfied with Trump. Gotta figure out how to tap into that better in upcoming elections.

 

[KennF]

@TexanStar And that's the key... converting an energizing element into voter turnout that overcomes incumbency ability to disenfranchise voters into complacency.

 

[twoton]

So---the false accusations got spread by the fake news media and Alabama fell for it. May as well ring up the sale of America to anti-capitalist globalists.