ALEC Exposed

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  1. slurper_la

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    For many years, conspiracy theorists have argued, "it doesn't matter who we elect president, our legislative future is controlled by a small cadre of powerful interests"

    Some of that was exposed following 9/11 as we learned more about the Carlyle Group.

    Now we learn of ALEC - The American Legislative Exchange Council, a shadowy corporate front group which has infiltrated legislative bodies with radical right-wing agenda since the 70s

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    American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)

    ALECWATCH

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    Do they have a branch office in britain?
     
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    I made a mention about ALEC in a different thread. This group is a serious problem in our country. They're the ones responsible for scripting the infamous immigration bill in Arizona that secretly benefits the private prison industry, and several other similar laws.
     
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    Thanks for the info. Scott Jensen is one of them who ran for WI governor recently.
     
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    How can I donate money to these people?
     
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    You never know just how deep things get and understand just how much corporate influence is working behind the scenes for a group like ALEC, until you look at their client list - http://alecwatch.org/alecgivers.html

    Here's just a few of the more common names:
    Amoco Corporation
    Bayer Corporation
    Glaxco Wellcome Inc.
    Motorola, Inc.
    Pfizer Inc.
    Philip Morris Corporation
    Pharmaceutical Research & Manufacturers of America
    R.J. Reynolds Tobacoo Company
    State Farm Insurance Companies
    United Airlines
    Washington Times
    American Express Company
    Chevron Corporation
    Chrysler Corporation
    Coors Brewing Company
    Exxon Corporation
    McDonalds Corporation
    Microsoft Corporation
    Miller Brewing Company
    GEICO
    Fruit of the Loom
    Enron Corporation
    Bank of America
    Blue Cross & Blue Shield Association
    BP America, Inc.

    A literal who's who in Big Pharma, Oil, Insurance, Food, etc...
    This is really bad.
     
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    They have ways to do it on the sites. Unless you mean the members of ALEC--- you probably do it every time you buy something.
     
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    Why does this NOT surprise me. You'd better READ about these guys pal before you start jumping up and down defending them. Someday -- someday those who are bringing this nation to its knees are going to pay the same high price Bernie Madof is now paying!! (As they should have in 2008 during the Wall Street Melt down -- and somehow got off.......scot free!)
     
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    Anybody remember that scene from Network when the crazy broadcaster (Howard) is brought before the Chairman of the Board of his own network?

    "There IS no United States of America -- there IS no Russia or Europe! There is only General Motors and Exxon and AT&T........."!!! I wonder if Eisenhower should have warned us against the "Industrial Complex" instead of the "Military" Industrial Complex!

    Makes me want to watch the DVD "The Corporation" all over again!
     
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    Another partisan post playing to the same old crowd!

    How odd that there are people with an "apparently" right wing agenda. The educational system across the west funds 10-1 in favour of leftist/liberal academics vs conservative ones. Academic freedom of thought - hah!

    A Campaign Against the Koch Foundation

    Of course some of the most charitable companies in the world are mentioned in that list!

    The Most Charitable Companies - Forbes.com

    That "small cadre of interest" would necessarily include David Rockerfeller - he of every single important government/non government group in the US & internationally - & he gives loads, & supports loads of what can only be described as leftist causes.

    Of course, you can avoid giving any of them your money - however, it is impossible to avoid giving the government some of your money to spend on its own indoctrination programs!


    These divisions are illusory - by taking sides you're only falling into the trap of hating alternative views, whereas the real power remains unscathed.

    Because of the massacre in Norway, by a right wing guy,shamefully paranoid about islamics taking over the world by force, leftwingers have been organising against rightwingers - shamefully paranoid about them wanting to take the world over by force.

    There's not even a hint of irony. That's how stupid, idiotic & partisan people are. Grow some brains & get over it.
     
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    Not really - The EU is basically a left wing organisation which makes up about 80%+ of 27 countries laws. In private. In closed session, without any responsibility. We also have a wholly unaccountable & unelected European Court.

    Aside from the CAP, the EU only spends its funds on itself & in net contributing countries, its very socialist agenda - on all its friends, creating duplicate public sector hierarchies, a power base, enriching their selected friendly corporations & friends.

    All behind closed doors. The accounts have not been signed off for 19 years.

    Same thing, different people. It's just in the public sector. That's why it isn't really a left/right thing. There really is no difference at all.
     
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    Are you implying that ALEC is funded by multinationals or foreign interests?

    Duh, of course some of them are. I guess that means discussing US politics is stupid, as there is no such thing???
     
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    You're missing the point.

    Multi-nationals aren't political in a partisan sense. Politicians don't care who funds their campaigns either. Exactly how many state run institutions & stratagems - external to the military - have a right wing agenda? They're practically all liberal/left. Should that monopolistic power base be campaigned about too. It should be if you have a problem with private sector lobbying - at least you don't have to pay for that, whilst you have no choice but to fund state funded groups that you disagree with.

    Corporations worked hand in hand with Soviet Russia just as they did with Capitalist America. Or are you just saying you'd prefer one set of ideologies? A state or union run organisation rewards its own supporters, & lobbies for its own members at the expense of others just the same.

    Don't you think that most countries in the world have corporations & organisations run by American interests, interests that supply you with cheap oil, & heavily discounted goods?!

    The globalist perspective is as much Socialist bureaucracy as it is Capitalistic monopoly. Marxists want it - Capitalists want it. A balanced person would protest either's efforts at power grabs, or just ignore it all completely.

    It's just pointless being partisan.
     
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    I don't think the parts I bolded are truth. And ALEC is definitely the opposite of left-wing. There are plenty of others like it too, and the left-wing ones are less likely to be corporate funded, ime.

    If it's pointless being partisan, it's pointless talking politics, no???
     
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