Alex jones banned from youtube, apple & facebook

[SonyToyo]

You really have an issue with feminists, don't you.

What’s wrong with disliking a hate movement that’s built around slandering half the population?

To suggest that all that has befallen him as a result strikes me as rather disingenuous on YOUR part. That's not even up for debate as far as I'm concerned so spare me your efforts to apologize for him.

As for that old argument about how the success of some black people should preclude any culpability and responsibility for what has happened for/to others (which, as always, is the endpoint of such arguments, not that I can even GUESS why you jumped onto that in THIS DISCUSSION), TRUST me, I don't need a black history lesson from YOU.

This second part is just a whole bunch of nothingness, man. C’mon

 

[Daisymay1]

Well, that's assuming the Wikipedia article is also biased, or as you put it "a hit piece."

However, much like those "leftist" news sources that some want to question, this Wikipedia article is ALSO replete with footnotes and references. So that at SOME point it has to cease being what you call "their opinion" and become FACT.

For example are the discovered email communications between Milo and neo-nazis fiction?

Is it fiction that he had, in an interview, said, "If I could choose, I wouldn't be a homosexual'. Asked if he would be willing to cure himself of homosexuality, if such a thing was ever invented, Yiannopoulos replied "Well, it would be career suicide, but I probably would, yeah."

Is it fiction that his comments re. Ghostbusters and Leslie Jones, including one in which he called her reply "barely literate" resulted in twitter attacks against her by his followers, and that he was subsequently banned "for what the company cited as 'inciting or engaging in the targeted abuse or harassment of others'."

And is this account fiction:

"On 26 June 2018, reports surfaced that Yiannopoulos had told at least two news organisations who had requested comments, that he wanted vigilantes to shoot journalists. According to a reporter for the New York Observer, he wrote in a text message "I can't wait for vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight".

Two days later, following a shooting at the Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Maryland in which five people were killed, Yiannopoulos denied that his comments were responsible, adding that his remarks were a joke. He later posted on Instagram that he sent the messages to troll journalists. On Facebook he wrote "You’re about to see a raft of news stories claiming that I am responsible for inspiring the deaths of journalists." and "The truth, as always, is the opposite of what the media tells you.""

(source: Milo Yiannopoulos - Wikipedia)

Which brings us right back to the start of this particular round of discussion in which you speculated as to the cause of our coming from opposite ends of the spectrum.

I think (as in, it is MY opinion) that you are unwilling to accept sources of information, even those that cite references and FACTS, as being VALID, when they are critical of those and that which YOU are inclined to defend and make excuses for.

So what why would you care. Does Big whitey know best. Quit being the thought police. People can believe and do as they wish as long as you're not breaking any laws. Hurt feelings don't mean s*** just get a backbone. You actually think just because you don't like something nobody should be able to do it. Screw you buddy

 

[b.c.]

What’s wrong with disliking a hate movement that’s built around slandering half the population?

Feminism is a hate movement? That's news to me:

Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish educational and professional opportunities for women that are equal to those for men. (Feminism - Wikipedia)

This second part is just a whole bunch of nothingness, man. C’mon

Maybe I didn't want to get into a lengthy discussion on how/why that whole "some black people succeed so why can't all" is a bullshit argument because 1) we've been there and done that, numerous times in this forum and 2) this isn't the right fkn THREAD for that particular hijacking.

...speaking of which:

So what why would you care. Does Big whitey know best. Quit being the thought police. People can believe and do as they wish as long as you're not breaking any laws. Hurt feelings don't mean s*** just get a backbone. You actually think just because you don't like something nobody should be able to do it. Screw you buddy

More unintelligible gobbly gook. Here. This is for YOU:

 

[Daisymay1]

Feminism is a hate movement? That's news to me:

Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish educational and professional opportunities for women that are equal to those for men. (Feminism - Wikipedia)



Maybe I didn't want to get into a lengthy discussion on how/why that whole "some black people succeed so why can't all" is a bullshit argument because 1) we've been there and done that, numerous times in this forum and 2) this isn't the right fkn THREAD for that particular hijacking.

Liberals don't give a f*** about women look what they do to Melania Trump and Ivanka Trump. Look what they did to Sarah Palin. All liberals do is Pander for votes. They need to keep blacks poor so they can throw welfare money at them for votes. In fact that's the only reason why they give a s*** where transgenders go to the bathroom. They suck so bad they need that 1% of the population vote. It's getting so bad they're trying to import illegals to vote Democrat. They can't win legitimately so they throw our hard-earned money at illegals giving them benefits working Americans can't even get because they can't when win legitimately they f****** cheat The end justifies the means with these jerk-offs

 

[b.c.]

Liberals don't give a f*** about women look what they do to Melania Trump and Ivanka Trump. Look what they did to Sarah Palin. All liberals do is Pander for votes. They need to keep blacks poor so they can throw welfare money at them for votes. In fact that's the only reason why they give a s*** where transgenders go to the bathroom. They suck so bad they need that 1% of the population vote. It's getting so bad they're trying to import illegals to vote Democrat. They can't win legitimately so they throw our hard-earned money at illegals giving them benefits working Americans can't even get because they can't when win legitimately they f****** cheat The end justifies the means with these jerk-offs

 

[Daisymay1]

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Is that what you look like from behind

 

[b.c.]

Is that what you look like from behind

 

[SonyToyo]

Feminism is a hate movement? That's news to me:

Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish educational and professional opportunities for women that are equal to those for men. (Feminism - Wikipedia)



Maybe I didn't want to get into a lengthy discussion on how/why that whole "some black people succeed so why can't all" is a bullshit argument because 1) we've been there and done that, numerous times in this forum and 2) this isn't the right fkn THREAD for that particular hijacking.

...speaking of which:



More unintelligible gobbly gook. Here. This is for YOU:

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How are women not equal in the West? What rights do men have that women don’t?

 

[b.c.]

How are women not equal in the West? What rights do men have that women don’t?

Tell you what. Start your own thread about it, and MAYBE I'll entertain you.

 

[SonyToyo]

Tell you what. Start your own thread about it, and MAYBE I'll entertain you.

Aka “I’m not going to answer the question because the answer proves how useless the movement is”

 

[b.c.]

Aka “I’m not going to answer the question because the answer proves how useless the movement is”

Aka the title of this thread is:
Alex jones banned from youtube, apple & facebook

 

[SonyToyo]

Aka the title of this thread is:
Alex jones banned from youtube, apple & facebook

Then why were you talking about a dislike of feminism?

 

[malakos]

I know it is flawed but it is interesting to see where you end up.
The Political Compass
Whichever political spectrum I have seen, I always end up in the centre because I focus on liberty.

 

[SonyToyo]

Oh shit look @malakos, I’m a fascist white supremacist nazi misogynist

 

[malakos]

Oh shit look @malakos, I’m a fascist white supremacist nazi misogynist

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For the purposes of this forum, the red, blue, and purple quadrants are all variants of fascism.

 

[dongalong]

Well, that's assuming the Wikipedia article is also biased, or as you put it "a hit piece."

However, much like those "leftist" news sources that some want to question, this Wikipedia article is ALSO replete with footnotes and references. So that at SOME point it has to cease being what you call "their opinion" and become FACT.

For example are the discovered email communications between Milo and neo-nazis fiction?

Is it fiction that he had, in an interview, said, "If I could choose, I wouldn't be a homosexual'. Asked if he would be willing to cure himself of homosexuality, if such a thing was ever invented, Yiannopoulos replied "Well, it would be career suicide, but I probably would, yeah."

Is it fiction that his comments re. Ghostbusters and Leslie Jones, including one in which he called her reply "barely literate" resulted in twitter attacks against her by his followers, and that he was subsequently banned "for what the company cited as 'inciting or engaging in the targeted abuse or harassment of others'."

And is this account fiction:

"On 26 June 2018, reports surfaced that Yiannopoulos had told at least two news organisations who had requested comments, that he wanted vigilantes to shoot journalists. According to a reporter for the New York Observer, he wrote in a text message "I can't wait for vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight".

Two days later, following a shooting at the Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Maryland in which five people were killed, Yiannopoulos denied that his comments were responsible, adding that his remarks were a joke. He later posted on Instagram that he sent the messages to troll journalists. On Facebook he wrote "You’re about to see a raft of news stories claiming that I am responsible for inspiring the deaths of journalists." and "The truth, as always, is the opposite of what the media tells you.""

(source: Milo Yiannopoulos - Wikipedia)

Which brings us right back to the start of this particular round of discussion in which you speculated as to the cause of our coming from opposite ends of the spectrum.

I think (as in, it is MY opinion) that you are unwilling to accept sources of information, even those that cite references and FACTS, as being VALID, when they are critical of those and that which YOU are inclined to defend and make excuses for.

I've been following Milo since he appeared on UK TV, he's an intelligent provocateur who enjoys saying bitchy and shocking things. He built a large following and got famous advocating free speech, he has benefited from the Streisand effect after Antifa and Colleges/unis tried to silence him.

He's been a bit quiet since that New York Observer comment, which he thought would be a funny way of rejecting an offer to write a story about him because he knew it would be a hit piece.
The shooting a few days later, made his distasteful attempts at humour sound much worse than they were originally intended thanks to the media.

I saw that story from his side and I watched what happened afterwards, nearly all the press coverage about him is negative. It's interesting to see how this coordinated negative press can make people believe he is some kind of Hitleresque monster.
If you watch what he actually does, you'll see a bitchy gay guy saying naughty things mixed in with the message he wants to communicate.

If you want to see his links to actual neo-nazis, Google: "The Daily Stormer, Milo". They absolutely hate him.

 

[dongalong]

First you cite Breitbart as a reliable news source. Now Infogalactic? lolz

I just discovered it yesterday as an alternative to Wikipedia which is far from being a perfect source of information, the Milo article you linked shows a clear bias.
Facebook Deploys Left-Wing Wikipedia Which Bashes Breitbart
Can Wikipedia Be Trusted?

 

[b.c.]

Then why were you talking about a dislike of feminism?

I didn't bring it up. It grew out of a discussion about ideological leanings and how they influence the news sources people are inclined to put stock in. To which another here made several references to a feminists news outlet.

Do try to keep up.

 

[b.c.]

I just discovered it yesterday as an alternative to Wikipedia which is far from being a perfect source of information, the Milo article you linked shows a clear bias.
Facebook Deploys Left-Wing Wikipedia Which Bashes Breitbart
Can Wikipedia Be Trusted?

I don't think so.

Frankly I don't see how the listing of actual events and actual statements show BIAS. Furthermore, the Wiki article contains statements and positions from both sides.

You sound very much like Trump when he calls reports of s----- he's actually said or done, "fake news."

For example in a post above I cited four incidents from the Wiki article on Milo and asked you if they were fiction.

As you have yet to prove that they are, I can only assume that they are not.

I've been following Milo since he appeared on UK TV, he's an intelligent provocateur who enjoys saying bitchy and shocking things. He built a large following and got famous advocating free speech, he has benefited from the Streisand effect after Antifa and Colleges/unis tried to silence him.

He's been a bit quiet since that New York Observer comment, which he thought would be a funny way of rejecting an offer to write a story about him because he knew it would be a hit piece.
The shooting a few days later, made his distasteful attempts at humour sound much worse than they were originally intended thanks to the media.

I saw that story from his side and I watched what happened afterwards, nearly all the press coverage about him is negative. It's interesting to see how this coordinated negative press can make people believe he is some kind of Hitleresque monster.
If you watch what he actually does, you'll see a bitchy gay guy saying naughty things mixed in with the message he wants to communicate.

If you want to see his links to actual neo-nazis, Google: "The Daily Stormer, Milo". They absolutely hate him.

I've already addressed that. Ever hear all those sayings about "perception"?

As I've already stated even if his purpose is to, as you claim, be "a bitchy gay guy saying naughty things" (your words, not mine) the EFFECT is still the same, regardless, because of how that is perceived, not only by his critics but by his supporters, defenders, and apologists.

Example, If you say s--------- that results in threats and intimidation of the targets of your vitriol, then what fkn difference does it make if you're just being "bitchy"?

Hey you know what, I really don't even want to debate this guy anymore, because it's not a case of him making one or two ridiculous, racists, abhorrent, repugnant, remarks. Fact is, anyway you try to cut it, he has had QUITE a track record.

And to be absolutely HONEST with you, the fact that you persist in trying to defend him only INCREASES doubts I ALREADY have about your OWN sense of judgment.

So do yourself a favor and let's drop it.

 

[SonyToyo]

For the purposes of this forum, the red, blue, and purple quadrants are all variants of fascism.

Hmmmmm. This whole forum in a nutshell (from what I’ve seen so far)