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When you go to the worst bakery in the area (having MANY better alternatives) and instead of going to the alternatives, they sue? It’s obvious.

I’m glad they lost.

Remember kids, it's OK for your business to discriminate, as long as it's a sucky business.
 

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Personally, I think marriage and religion are completely ridiculous. I don't force other people to share that opinion. If it was up to me, both would be abolished and we wouldn't waste time on this bullshit anymore at all.

Would be nice if that asshole baker could be a lil more like that, but I know that's not gonna happen. (I mean the part about not forcing others to share the same opinion/beliefs... Maybe get the fuck over it and do their job, bake the fuckin cake)

Ummm isn’t that what the couple did by trying to force him to bake the cake and go against his own beliefs? :confused:
 
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If you want to paint with a broad brush, fine; we can talk about what all *conservatives* are like.

Or we can focus on the issue at hand.

The issue being that it’s apparently “ok” for private companies to deny service based on Conservative political opinions but it’s “not ok” for private companies to do the same to liberal political opinions
 
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Ummm isn’t that what the couple did by trying to force him to bake the cake and go against his own beliefs? :confused:

They shouldn't bake "wedding" cakes at all then. Not everyone who gets married is exactly the same religion as him, and they do not hold the exact same beliefs. What about people getting remarried after a divorce? Why didn't he refuse those cakes?

I don't care about religious beliefs in the work place. At all. If you live your life by those rules to that extent, get a job where your beliefs Never have anything to do with those of others.

That is a personal choice. It shouldn't affect anyone they serve.
 
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They shouldn't bake "wedding" cakes at all then. Not everyone who gets married is exactly the same religion as him, and they do not hold the exact same beliefs. What about people getting remarried after a divorce? Why didn't he refuse those cakes?

I don't care about religious beliefs in the work place. At all. If you live your life by those rules to that extent, get a job where you're beliefs Never have anything to do with those of others.

That is a personal choice. It doesn't affect anyone they serve.

Then why did they even bother suing when they could’ve just walked across the road and got a much better cake anyway?

It’s ridiculous.
 
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The issue being that it’s apparently “ok” for private companies to deny service based on Conservative political opinions but it’s “not ok” for private companies to do the same to liberal political opinions

Apparently, then, that's the issue you want to discuss with those who hold those views.
 
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I didn’t “conjure up” anything. Bigoted Muslim bakeries exist all around the world.

Prove it. Show me a bakery in the US that has done what you suggest. We are talking about the US and US laws. Stay focused sour pea. Otherwise your whataboutism falls flat.
 
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Then why did they even bother suing when they could’ve just walked across the road and got a much better cake anyway?

It’s ridiculous.

There it is. It always come down to those four little words: "Just go somewhere else."

And I'm still asking: if that's not discrimination, what is?
 

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Then why did they even bother suing when they could’ve just walked across the road and got a much better cake anyway?

It’s ridiculous.

Because accountability matters.

People shouldn't be able to Discriminate in the work place. If they want to hate gay people, fine. They shouldn't be able to refuse service over their bigoted opinions that are based on fairy tales.
 
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Because accountability matters.

People shouldn't be able to Discriminate in the work place. If they want to hate gay people, fine. They shouldn't be able to refuse service over their bigoted opinions that are based on fairy tales.

But they’re not part of the workplace. They weren’t asking for a job. They were asking for a product which was outside the constraints of the business.

I’m not going to go to a classical artist and ask them to paint me a modern canvas for a feature wall...
 

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There it is. It always come down to those four little words: "Just go somewhere else."

And I'm still asking: if that's not discrimination, what is?

Do you realise how many men suffering from domestic violence, homelessness and suicidal thoughts are told to “just go somewhere else” because they’re men?

We never hear about that. No no no.

We hear about some middle class white gay couple that goes to the worst store in town and dues for discrimination.

Perspective and context lol
 
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But they’re not part of the workplace. They weren’t asking for a job. They were asking for a product which was outside the constraints of the business.

I’m not going to go to a classical artist and ask them to paint me a modern canvas for a feature wall...

The civil rights movement doesn't come to mind here?

"We don't serve blacks, it's our right!"

If you're job is to SERVE PEOPLE, you can't discriminate based on race/gender/sexual identity/religion... This bakery isn't specifically for Christians only. Until they refuse to serve Anyone who is Not the exact same religion they are, they have to serve Everyone.

Unless an *individual* is being refused service based on specific behavior Inside the place of business, refusing to serve them is bullshit discrimination.