All blaming aside... how would you fix the economy?

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  1. curious n str8

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    Please state you party affiliation,the many issues and how you would do each reason and why... I guess this could get long. First I would open up all Drilling in the USA,to get off our dependence on foreign oil and keep more money here. Give high tax incentives to energy companies for research into alternative energy solutions. Make stricter gas efficiencies on all fuel engines and vehicles on a shorter time basis. That means co2 emissions also. Build more Atomic power-plants for electricity. Higher tax deductions for private citizens for wind power and solar panels. Less policing of the world. That means the middle east also. No corporate bail outs. If you can't make your business work you shouldn't be in business. No golden parachutes unless the company is fiscally sound for at least 5 yrs. Put the monies in a trust account till the 5 yrs is up. In-act a 15 % income tax nothing more nothing lesson on all private citizens. No helping illegal immigrants unless its to learn the English language.This is the USA after all. Reinstate the death penalty why give criminals a free place to live with health benefits. After all we do have better DNA testing. Put on stricter tariffs on all foreign imports. No outrageious interst rates on creditcards or raising rates and fees without contacting the person. Lower the price on all medications after 5 yrs that should be long enough to recoup the cost of research. Thres alot more that can be done and what I said isn't perfect by any means buts its a start. :feedback:
     
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    How about having a big war, I mean a really big war! That seemed to have brought us out of the depression in the 1930's.
     
  3. Phil Ayesho

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    First- re-establish the constitution. The constitution empowers government to REGULATE commerce...

    Any congressman who has a problem with government regulation of commerce can go home-- regulation is the JOB the constitution defines for them.

    Second - UNDO all Bush era signing statements, the military commissions act and patriot act and Any other irresponsible and treasonous law passed that undermines constitutional law.

    UNSEAL Bush's records and start a serious series of investigation into what the hell they were really up to.
    Be prepared to INCARCERATE Bush, Cheney or any other government official or corporate crony for treason, for violating their oaths of office, for perjury and anything else they can be pinned with...

    The reason?
    The republicans did the nation a great disservice when Ford pardoned Nixon.

    THis all happened because of a republican "Above the law" mentality- Bush should be pilloried as an abject lesson to future politicians, both republican AND Democrat that you don't get to walk away scot free and rich from abuse of office.


    NEXT... get out of Iraq- ASAP... they are not the enemy- let them work out their own internal strife.
    This does not mean we abandon our interest in the region... we could be far more effective with cruise missiles than with invasions.
    We simply can not sustain this expenditure.


    NEXT... we have 4 major problems and they all have the exact same solution.

    1- we are hostage to islamic cartels because we need their oil.
    2- we are faced with global warming because we Burn so much oil.
    3- we have a crumbling infrastructure and and not enough Jobs here in the states.
    4- we have no plan for future technological development that can form the basis of our future economy.



    ALL four problems can be solved by ONE initiative.
    Focus public awareness and government support in a committment to get entirely off oil within a decade.

    This means pressuring and encouraging the private sector to make the US the world leader in CLEAN energy solutions.
    It means Switching this nation over to new energy sources and a new energy distribution grid employing cutting edge technologies like liquid hydrogen pipelines that do double duty as a new super-conducting electrical grid.


    This would pour money into new technologies and into nation wide infrastructure for a new century. No more half measures and stopgaps... A final push to a FINAL energy source, Hydrogen, the only clean burning fuel we can store.

    The building of this new infrastructure would be jobs that can not be sent overseas... they would employ regular workers right here...
    An expenditure comparable to the interstate highway system, this new energy infrastrucuture would have the SAME effect the interstate had -- it would TRIPLE GNP.


    Selling these technologies to other nations will make us into a PRODUCER rather than debtor economy.

    ANd solving the oil problem will be the single greatest impact we can make on reducing global warming.

    AND- when we don't need oil... and when we can sell an oil free affluence to other nations.... the middle esat will not only cease to be a concern for us...
    they will become utterly irrelevant on the world stage.
    Let them live in the 7th century if they please... it won't affect us.


    All the technologies to begin this are already developed.
    It would solve this nations biggest REAL problems.




    Oh... and one more thing... in the coming century Biotechnology will make the electronics industry look like chump change.

    30% of Americans may want an iPod... but 100% of them want to live longer healthier and happier lives.

    For the past 10 years America has allowed its leadership role in biotechnology to slip away because of religious nincompoops making inroads into government.

    The FUTURE is entirely about technology. We can not afford to even consider undermining science education with delusional religious claptrap.

    IT is critical that we RE_ESTABLISH the separation of church and state and disallow ANY form of religious beliefs to color the pursuit of real data and real theory.

    In addition to government strongly supporting clean energy.... it needs to put emphasis on science education and science careers...
    and get the religious moralists out of the way of funding raw research.

    The boom times of the past 30 years have been the result of raw physics research done in 50 years ago.... which led directly to all modern electronic technology.

    We need to be spending money on biotechnology so that we can be in on the ground floor of the next revolution in industry.
     
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    Phil you brought up some good points I forgot about rebuilding our infrastructure... What I'm looking for are financial issues that effect our economy such as social issues etc... And the reason I ask about party affiliation is that I want see the difference from All political parties. :feedback: Come on ppl
     
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    1. Make Monopoly money legal tender to boost consumer spending and investment.

    2. Stem the resulting hyper-inflation using proven soviet-style price-control techniques.

    Where do I send my bill?

    P.S.: I don't take Monopoly money.

     
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    1. pull all ground troops from Europe, Japan and Iraq, except for naval installations.
    2. Impose a one-time, retroactive to 2000 bailout tax on capital gains from the 799 financial stocks that shorts were banned for. 80 - 90%. Without the taxpayers, they all would have sunk. We shouldn't have to bail them out, they should have to bail themselves out.
    3. Appollo project for alternative energy, including massive R&D tax incentives.
    4. Appollo project for alternative transportation motors, including massive R&D tax incentives.
    5. Sue Halliburton and Bechtel for lost/missing money.
    6. Make 0% inflation a baseline and only goal of the Fed
    7. Break up the banks, and only allow statewide banks, give banking regulative authority to the states.
    8. Drill ANWR
    9. End bailouts of insurance companies during natural disasters. If they cant cover their premiums, they should not be in business.
    10. Appoint New End as supreme imperator and national harem boss.
     
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    1)Give tax breaks or other incentives to firms that don't outsource any of their workforce

    2)STOP PRINTING MONEY

    3)Offer substantial tax breaks to American energy companies who produce 40% of their energy from clean, natural sources such as wind, solar, and hydro. The technology exists, it just isn't being used properly.

    4)Mandate that by the year 2020, ALL U.S. automakers MUST produce ONLY vehicles that operate on either electricity, hydrogen, or use electro-magnetic engines, or else they will face harsh financial penalties that could put them out of business for good

    5)Double the amount of nuclear powerplants

    6)Raise tariffs on all imports

    7)Raise interst rates to encourage people to stop borrowing money

    8)Stop declaring war unless we're being invaded

    9)Lower interst rates on treasury bonds, but allow people who own them to extend the maturity dates another 5 years

    10)Rebuild our ENTIRE energy infrastructure using clean technologies such as wind, solar, nuclear, and hydro (we simply cannot rely on entrepreneurs to do this, this is a job only the government can do)

    11)Offer big tax breaks to homeowners who become energy independent by installing solar panels (we need to offer large tax breaks to not only encourage this technology, but also to offset the expenses households will incur when going solar)
     
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    I'll relinquish all females in the United States if you can explain how simply "pulling troops" from Europe and Asia will result in significant savings.

    If you're simply repatriating troops from Europe and Asia bases to US bases, you will not save that much. You are simply moving resources.

    Were you thinking about laying off all those troops without severance?
     
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    FUCK THAT
     
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    Very well. You can be the supreme "imp" and I'll be the emperor.:biggrin1:
     
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    the money stays home, and helps hometown economies. Buit the big one is the waste pit in Iraq, where they have burn piles for the most slightly damaged of goods, because of the contract system. (I cant recall the name of the system at the moment)

    I keep forgetting about this. Yes to nukes. Although it is estimated we only have about a 10 years world supply of uranium.
     
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    To fix the economy I will vote for Obama/Biden on 11/4/08
     
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    We can invade France and take all their uranium. But for that, we need those remaining European bases untouched.


    So I take it you wouldn't reduce the size of the military (which means eliminating jobs). Given that scenario, the tax savings may even be negative in the short term, because closing bases and finding domestic room for those troops would cost a fortune.
     
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    That's a big maybe. The influx of dollars into local economies would raise tax revenues.

    A lot of things, like Apollo program for alternative energy would cost more in the short term.

    Finding domestic room for the troops would increase home values in the United States.
     
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    curious n str8, The next time you post, would you please NOT do it in tiny, red print.

    :no: Could you be more wrong?:poke:

    Ditto! :cool:

     
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    Come on Indy you can do better than that,lets hear what you would do... :scared2:
     
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  19. lucky8

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    This thread is for offering ideas, not criticizing them. If you can't offer any ideas of your own in this thread, you have no right to criticize anyone else's.
     
  20. Phil Ayesho

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    Keeping troops in the field increases the cost of the military by several billion dollars PER MONTH.

    We are spending billions on replacing equipment, on ordinance, on transportation and logistics.

    Pulling them out is NOT firing them.... We still need to maintain a standing army... but the army is currently in a sad depleted state and it needs to be re-organized - go back to the original Powell doctrine.

    More importantly- we need to FIRE blackwater mercenaries and get them OFF the public payroll...
    If the oil companies want protection... they are profitable enough to hire their own mercenaries ( and make their own deals with Iraqi government)

    There is a huge economic difference between the government paying for stuff with tax revenue...
    And the government BORROWING money to pay for stuff because they do not raise enough revenue.

    The Republican plan is to cut taxes.... and then BORROW more so they can SPEND MORE.
    Cutting taxes reduced federal revenue.

    Try that in your life...
    Take a lower paying job ( less revenu in ) and start spending more than you make on credit ( borrowing to support spending you can't afford )

    How long can you do that before the shit hits the fan?
    If you're the republicans... 7.5 years.


    We HAVE to reduce military expenditures because they are mostly BORROWED money.

    The notion that spending is good because it pays american workers is only true if the government is spending revenue.
    Borrowing money to pay American workers and soldiers is how we GOT here.
     
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