alpha guys question... a new angle

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Well Stated "OneWatcher." Let us continue. This is a support Group and we all can learn from each other.

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I knew that if I used the term "alpha male" that it would get guys thinking... (see, I'm not so dumb!) hehehe It just goes to show you that we all really do think about things (and words) differently and flare ups can come from the stupidest places over the dumbest things- but when we actively listen and try to understand the motivation of WHY people believe what they do (which, in-turn informs their actions) the value and realization of need of everyone comes out.

OneWatcher, I like the explanation of arousal vs. comparison. I wonder how many comparisons became sexualized and led to arousal. And OCMuscle, dude wouldn't the world be great if we could live without condemnation, ridicule, or guilt? (Maybe just sit in your hot tub all day and drink Mojitos?) hahahha
 
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I knew that if I used the term "alpha male" that it would get guys thinking...

Well, it certainly got me to read the thread. Until I realized you were directing the thread to the 100% Straight guys. Guess that leaves me out. I was hoping there was a good thread on Alpha guys. :rolleyes:
 

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I knew that if I used the term "alpha male" that it would get guys thinking... (see, I'm not so dumb!) hehehe It just goes to show you that we all really do think about things (and words) differently and flare ups can come from the stupidest places over the dumbest things- but when we actively listen and try to understand the motivation of WHY people believe what they do (which, in-turn informs their actions) the value and realization of need of everyone comes out.

OneWatcher, I like the explanation of arousal vs. comparison. I wonder how many comparisons became sexualized and led to arousal. And OCMuscle, dude wouldn't the world be great if we could live without condemnation, ridicule, or guilt? (Maybe just sit in your hot tub all day and drink Mojitos?) hahahha

eww mojitos! gay! :)
 

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ok guys enuf of the hijacked thread (my fault) let's get back to the question: Why do 100% straight guys (aka the 'alpha dogs') decide to use the 100% number to represent themselves?

And remember, this is a no flaming, no anger, spite free zone. If you want to get into fisticuffs, take it out of the bar. :)
 

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I knew that if I used the term "alpha male" that it would get guys thinking...

Yeah, but when you conflate alphaness with sexual orientation or willingness to experiment sexually, you're just going to confuse people about what you mean. Also, any hint that straight men are alpha and gay men are not feeds into stereotypes about gay men being soft, effeminate, and wimpish. As any leatherman or bear can tell you, that stereotype just aint true.

Being an alpha male or female is about somebody's ability to lead, set the tone and direction for a group of people, and persuade others to participate. There are plenty of gay and straight alpha males.
 

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I list myself as 99% straight and that is because I find this site curiously interesting. I have no interest in any type of physical male contact.

I have never tried anything with another male only because I find the idea repulsive. I have incredibly close male friends but it is very different than my relationship with my wife. I have been through experiences with male friends that I wouldn't have wanted to go through with my wife and the same for the opposite. I feel that there is a codependancy between a man and a woman that can't be met by myself having any kind of relationship with another man. The whole idea just seems so naturally wrong to me. My wife has a strong personality and is also physically strong but at the same time her female side wants a man that will provide and protect her.

The closest I have ever come to physical contact with another male was with my doctor. I found nothing enjoyable about having his finger up my ass.

As far as alpha males, I have to agree with OC and some others. There are gay alphas out there. It is common to see "gay" acts in other animals such as dogs and bulls. The dominant animal will often use the aggressive sexual behavior to control the weaker animal. Being an alpha doesn't make you straight.

I would define myself as an alpha based on a couple of things; I am bigger than average, I am more aggressive than average, I am very confident and I am very determined. I can walk into a group of people and quickly take leadership. I don't need other's approval or acceptance.
I have been told by many that I am intimidating in all kinds of situations. I don't purposefully try, it is just my natural characteristics. I usually go into a competitive mode when I am around friends. To me, guy-guy contact would be a slugfest to see who is the best. The "do what feels right" philosophy is what I believe but man to woman is all that feels right.

I am not the biggest but to many I am a gym rat. I have no problem with nakedness in the locker room or around other males. Just don't touch.

I have no problem looking at a man and saying, "that is one hell of a body" out of respect for what they have done. I have no problem looking at a man and saying, "that dude has the looks". That doesn't mean that I am interested in having any kind of relationship with them. I can appreciate their appearance without having a desire to go any further. If I set back and think of the most attractive male in the world and then picture myself doing anything sexual with that person, I go blank. It just isn't there, no interest, nothing happens.
 

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OneWatcher, I like the explanation of arousal vs. comparison. I wonder how many comparisons became sexualized and led to arousal.

It's hard to believe that comparison doesn't lead to some sort of arousal.

Just being male makes you a little gay. How can a man be so repulsed by their own gender's body?

I think the most heteroseoxual men are the men who admit that a big-dicked stud can be arousing, even though they only want sex with women. They don't go on or try to make a point about how repulsed or "neutralized" they are over men's bodies, penises, etc. They freely admit that men can be sexy and can look at naked men without fear.
 
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I consider myself straight, and besides masturbating with my friends when we were teenagers I have never done anything with another man. We were simply guys playing with our own dicks while watching porn in the same room, no bjs no anal no mutal jerking. However I am a highly sexual being, with an admittedly perverse mind so I equate genitals to sex. So when I see a naked breast or vagina or penis I usually equate it to sex. Not that I want to have sex with the person but I am just like "I just saw her pussy lips imagine what its like when she's having sex" I do the same with guys "Oh a dick" (instant image of what it might look like hard) Its just something that comes up in my head and I really don't consider it a gross thing or a gay or straight thing I just consider then sexual organs. It has no impact on how I see myself.

Some members also sexually restrict certain sexual acts to certain orientations and I really think that that's wrong as well. Sometimes my girl fingers me because its pleasurable. It's not because i want to have a penis in my ass but lets face it guys our prostate when massaged feel extremely good. The devision between gay and straight shouldn't be by the act but to me it should be by your emotional connection to that person. when you look at your partner do you see happiness over all fields, both sexual and non.

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My moto is "If it gets you off, do it and be happy" I am 100% straight, but open minded. I don't mind gay guys checking me out, infact I find it kinda flattering. Just as long as they don't read into it anymore than that. If you think I'm cutethen fantasize, jerk off, I don't care. Just don't expect any sexual contact from me. I tried the gay thing in college during my curious phase, but it just doesn't do it for me. Don't let anyone tell you there is something wrong with you because you are gay or bi. If someone tells you that your sick or gay people shouldn't be allowed to do <action> get real close and kiss them then say "Now I have passed my gayness to you. Welcome brother/sister." lol
 

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In real life, I'm tremendously alpha in my behavior, which is VERY different from the cute, cuddly "child's toy" persona I've adopted just for fun on this site. It's been interesting seeing how others react to my persona.

I agree with the Dude and others who pointed out that "alpha" has nothing to do with sexual orientation. I think there are two questions wrapped up in the OP's post: (1) How do alpha males feel toward beta males or "followers"? and (2) How do 100% straight males feel toward other men who're not necessarily that same level of straightness? This being a big cock site, there's also a strong subtext of how do the big cocked guys feel toward other men who admire and respect them for their size.

NCbear (who wonders whether I'm understanding the OP)
 

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Yeah, but when you conflate alphaness with sexual orientation or willingness to experiment sexually, you're just going to confuse people about what you mean. Also, any hint that straight men are alpha and gay men are not feeds into stereotypes about gay men being soft, effeminate, and wimpish. As any leatherman or bear can tell you, that stereotype just aint true.

Being an alpha male or female is about somebody's ability to lead, set the tone and direction for a group of people, and persuade others to participate. There are plenty of gay and straight alpha males.

Thank you - I agree wholeheartedly.
 

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I would like to thank all posters for your insightful, sincere, mature and most interesting thoughts on this thread.... a pleasure to read without a lot of heavy, defensive reactionary posts - and kudos to Mpls for starting it. We learn something every day by sharing our thoughts.