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Chuck64 said:
Dearest Matthew,

We're all full of shit.

Chuck.

I don't know Chuck ... I would have to say some of us much more than others.

And I'd use this thread as evidence.
 

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stallion70 said:
Actually I am and I hate you monkey mother fuckers! Go back to africa and swing from a tree! You people have fucked up this country with your fucking mandingo attitudes! Abraham Lincoln had the best idea! Buy Argentina and send all u monkeys over there! What a better place it would be! You monkeys call us white folks racists and then u turn around and make fun of orientals,hispanics etc.! But then again we are dealing with what kind of IQ?

How sad, A mind is a terrible thing to lose ... in public. I guess you all made him lose his mind up in heah, Up in heah! LOL!
 

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naughty said:
How sad, A mind is a terrible thing to lose ... in public.
...which alone isn't applicable as it implies he had to first have one.

yet, it isn't terribly alarming to see how things unfolded. the posters comes onto the site and starts a thread about "alpha males." then, try as he might, attempts to convince us that in order to be an "alpha males" - or even validated as a person, really - you must possess physical strength and an enormous penis. finally, after he's reconciled within himself that he's fighting a losing battle, he densely results to mudslinging and racial epithets. clearly this is someone who, from the very beginning, has been more uncomfortable in his own skin than we've been by simply having him around. :rolleyes:

if his [FONT=&quot]insecurities[/FONT] don't eat him alive, perhaps the alpha male of a pack of wolves will...
 

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Being a trophy wife's plaything trophy puts you quite a long way down the food chain in my humble opinion.

When you are middle aged, still poor and of no interest to trophy wives, the rich man will as Mr. Sugar Daddy have your daughter as his trophy.
 

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The epithets were the first honest thing he said. I'd rather be called a tree-climber to my face. Hiding behind veiled racism just makes me angry. Use language I can understand: Call me a nigger and be done with it. This way I immediately know to leave you alone. That's the only thing I hate more than snow abouut the north. I respect a man who has the conviction to hate me out loud.

I've been meaning to start a thread to this effect.
 

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BronxBombshell said:
What exactly am I bluffing to hide? You have me very confused. First, why are we calling a woman (Cynthia McWhoever is a woman, right?) an alpha male? I don't know of her, but if she has strong leaderdhip skills, and people are willingly following her, I'd say she's an alpha female. Second, if you follow all of my posts in this thread, I have always come back to leadership skills as the defining characteristic of an alpha. I really don't know what you're talking about.
Bombshell, Cynthia McKinney is that congresswoman screaming racism aftert punching out the capital security policeman. I called her "Alpha male" simply to make the same degree of allegory you were switching over to when I defined true masculinity and you disagreed by saying that in your mind, an alpha male is someone who would win in a fight. But your switch then was "a mental fight." So you know-- if you can do it, so can I.

Oh, I also forgot one other thing about masculinity-- a masculine male is someone who sticks to basic principles and doesn't back off. He is a leader because you can trust that he won't, and he'll stick to his guns, even if he only weighs 85 lbs soaking wet. masculinity has absolutely NOTHING to do with being the UFC champ, or able to beat somebody's brains out. NOR does it have anything to do with winning an argument, or intimidating an opponent, or becoming a mental force to be reckoned with. Matter of fact, after he has stated his case, he won't argue any further, and that's what I intend to do, too.

Bombshell, Your switcheroo was just as wrong as your initial opinion of masculinity. You went from the frying pan right into the fire.

By the way, why isn't Stallion kicked off this website by now? You can't go around calling people names and insulting members like that in any forum I'm familiar with, and get away with it!
 

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solong said:
BronxBombshell said:
What exactly am I bluffing to hide? You have me very confused. First, why are we calling a woman (Cynthia McWhoever is a woman, right?) an alpha male? I don't know of her, but if she has strong leaderdhip skills, and people are willingly following her, I'd say she's an alpha female. Second, if you follow all of my posts in this thread, I have always come back to leadership skills as the defining characteristic of an alpha. I really don't know what you're talking about.
Bombshell, Cynthia McKinney is that congresswoman screaming racism aftert punching out the capital security policeman. I called her "Alpha male" simply to make the same degree of allegory you were switching over to when I defined true masculinity and you disagreed by saying that in your mind, an alpha male is someone who would win in a fight. But your switch then was "a mental fight." So you know-- if you can do it, so can I.

Oh, I also forgot one other thing about masculinity-- a masculine male is someone who sticks to basic principles and doesn't back off. He is a leader because you can trust that he won't, and he'll stick to his guns, even if he only weighs 85 lbs soaking wet. masculinity has absolutely NOTHING to do with being the UFC champ, or able to beat somebody's brains out. NOR does it have anything to do with winning an argument, or intimidating an opponent, or becoming a mental force to be reckoned with. Matter of fact, after he has stated his case, he won't argue any further, and that's what I intend to do, too.

Bombshell, Your switcheroo was just as wrong as your initial opinion of masculinity. You went from the frying pan right into the fire.

By the way, why isn't Stallion kicked off this website by now? You can't go around calling people names and insulting members like that in any forum I'm familiar with, and get away with it!
Baby doll, Stallion was removed hours ago, immediately following his outburst. And I never back-pedaled. The only alphas I ever said had to be able to win physical fights were wolves, but I did intend to imply that all alphas inn the animal kingdom needed physical prowess. You are obviously literate, so use your reading comprehension skills, Dear, scroll up, go back a few pages even, and see that I never said human alphas had to have any type of physical prowess, and in fact said the direct opposite from the word go. Reading is fundemental.

I never tried to define masculinity here, in fact, you are the only person on the entire thread who did, and your definition is sexist. Why can't those things describe a woman? I know a few women who can be very well described by all of those characteristics you claim sum up masculinity,including your newest addition, and none of them would be described by anyone else I know as masculine. I didn't even completely disagree with you. I believe that a good leader encompasses all of those traits. I just don't think a good leader in neccesarily masculine.

I also did not attack you, or even take a negative tone until you used one with me. I merely disagreed with you. A leader knows how to handle a difference of opinion. So does a grown man.
 

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stallion70 said:
Actually I am and I hate you monkey mother fuckers! Go back to africa and swing from a tree! You people have fucked up this country with your fucking mandingo attitudes! Abraham Lincoln had the best idea! Buy Argentina and send all u monkeys over there! What a better place it would be! You monkeys call us white folks racists and then u turn around and make fun of orientals,hispanics etc.! But then again we are dealing with what kind of IQ?
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BronxBombshell said:
solong said:
BronxBombshell said:
What exactly am I bluffing to hide? You have me very confused. First, why are we calling a woman (Cynthia McWhoever is a woman, right?) an alpha male? I don't know of her, but if she has strong leaderdhip skills, and people are willingly following her, I'd say she's an alpha female. Second, if you follow all of my posts in this thread, I have always come back to leadership skills as the defining characteristic of an alpha. I really don't know what you're talking about.
Baby doll, Stallion was removed hours ago, immediately following his outburst. And I never back-pedaled. The only alphas I ever said had to be able to win physical fights were wolves, but I did intend to imply that all alphas inn the animal kingdom needed physical prowess. You are obviously literate, so use your reading comprehension skills, Dear, scroll up, go back a few pages even, and see that I never said human alphas had to have any type of physical prowess, and in fact said the direct opposite from the word go. Reading is fundemental.

I never tried to define masculinity here, in fact, you are the only person on the entire thread who did, and your definition is sexist. Why can't those things describe a woman? I know a few women who can be very well described by all of those characteristics you claim sum up masculinity,including your newest addition, and none of them would be described by anyone else I know as masculine. I didn't even completely disagree with you. I believe that a good leader encompasses all of those traits. I just don't think a good leader in neccesarily masculine.

I also did not attack you, or even take a negative tone until you used one with me. I merely disagreed with you. A leader knows how to handle a difference of opinion. So does a grown man.

OK, Bombshell, let's get this on, gal.

First of all, I really like you because you make me think, and I'm having a lot of fun, here. I am smiling really big, and just enjoying myself immensely. Well, you know, what I mean???

But now that I've said that, get that picture out of your mind and listen up:

1) Did I say you attacked me? And 2) would I care of you did? Hey, I'm not the sensitive type, but I'll go a few rounds with you.

You've left the subject of Alpha Males, so I'm getting us back on target. You know--that's what alpha males do???

In the first place, all one has to do is to go back to your earlier post to see that, yes, in fact, you most certainly DID say that the alpha male, in your opinion, was like the alpha male animals who were stronger, etc. and would win a fight.

My point was AGREEMENT! That's right. No problemo. But I said also that true masculinity is different from animal alpha. And like you just said, "Hey, yopu're the first dude whose even brought up masculinity, so therefore, you win the teddy bear.

So when you still didn't get it, I brought up Cynthia McKinney, allegorical alpha-male, and you didn't understand that, so I brought it into focus. Still, you didn't Google her to see what I was talking about. You don't understand that point of view, even yet. But.... that's ok.

Now let's talk about the point I was making from the beginning for a change.

When people speak of "Alpha Male" they are really talking ONLY about the animal kingdom. That's because they don't know the origins of the term, and they also don't realize that psychiatrists adopted the term only as a characterization, and not as a legitimate scientific explanation. You are the ONLY PERSON in this whole conflab who has pointed that out! That's why I hand it to you, girl! You done GOOD!

But Humans are not members of the "animal kingdom" as I refer to animals. (I'm not going into details). But humans who equate themselves to anthropoid characterizations have just defined themselves, not necessarily other males of the human race. Hence, "Masculinity."

Testosterone is absolvent with qualities of leadership which women should have a right to expect from a real man. All real men are males, but few males are real men. The Bible refers to many as "those who pisseth against a wall," a good definition of an alpha male, less any real masculine qualities.

My suggestion then to any women still reading with interest is this: If you want real men with true masculine qualities, raise them that way. Expect a lot out of them, and you will be rewarded, and so will your daughter-in-law. If you prefer irresponsible boors that need to be controlled, who think like women think, and who need a strong feminine hand, then listen to the female child psychologists and be sure you obey them to the letter.

What's the principle? "As ye sow, shall ye also reap."
 

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As Stallion has been neutered, I would like to raise a few points about the Alpha Male issue.

The marketing people break us down into A's,B's,C's etc and into age groups under 18, 18-24, 24-35, 35-50, and over 50. I think each socio demographic group has different benchmarks for each age group.

So an 18-24 D Alpha is going to be a very different beast to an A 35-50 Alpha.

As Stallion found, when you step outside your peer group, you may find that people aren't impressed at all.
 

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stallion70 said:
What do u ladies think of a human version of an alpa male? Muscular man with a large penis! One must be both to be considered and alpha male!

Well, not if you're speaking in terms of what the porn industry has almost subliminally made us believe. I mean, come on! Aggressive quasi bodybuilder types with horse dicks? Yeah....right. They're advocates of pumps/pill popping to get it up almost looking that big. and the aggressiveness? Just a little shot of Dianabol will remedy that quicker than a heartbeat.
 

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This is the absolute best thread ever on this board (besides the ones that I consulted when I first joined to help me & my fiance fit is large penis in me).
I wish I had time to read all pages, but alas and alack, I do not. I have read only one page & I can't stop laughing!
Hickboy & Claire Talon you two are the best! The sense of humor of you two is the best. Thanks you all for putting a great big smile on my face for the rest of the day!
I have an alpha male (used to be even more but has now mellowed) by the balls! I know in his younger years he would have given up & gone on to easier prey! & he has admitted to this.
 

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Ha ha, thanks for linking back to this thread. A hilarious hall-of-shame classic.