Am I the only one who likes being circumcised ?

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If you look at Québec, they did not need to pass a law to cause circumcision to fade away quickly from culture. A combination of doctors no longer recommending it, and widthdrawing as a free precedure for baby boys did the trick.

So now, only parents who have enough convinction of the benefits of circumcision go for it and pad for it. In the past, circumcision was always like those deserts that come free with the meal. You just take it without looking at the price or asking questions. But the minute you have to pay for the desert, you cosnider your budget, your waisteline and whether the desert is good/bad or way too expemsive for what it is.

It's not advocated in Aussie hospitals anymore either. But the choice is with all the information reasons whatfor and whatnot supplied.

On a personal note here. My partner of 5 years has 5 boys from her previous marriage. All young adults, from 27 to 19. None of them were circumcised, even though their dad was, yet her personal preference is circumcised penis. Her second youngest recently had to be because of medical problems. His cousin also need to be done for similar reasons. So I'm not totally ignorant to what happens around me, not yet anyway. But again, it was all their choices why and whynot, and had nothing to do with any outside input.
 

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Thats exactly what I meant from it fading away of it's own accord. It's become less 'fashionable' for want of a better word. So when parents gather for their morning coffee it becomes an embarrassment for the parents or mum that has made the decision to circumcize their son. (With whispers of "how could she do that to her son" behind her back)

Well, two quick things:

1. That's Australia, not the U.S. I'd rather people didn't decide emotionally like that either way, but in the U.S., this is still widely practiced for no particularly decent reason. That's why my reaction to this

2. I'm glad it's fading, but that still doesn't mean it shouldn't be questioned. That's part of why it is fading. Plus, I think it's wrong to do, so a decrease from 80% to 40% still leaves 40% wrong.

I probably mistook you for being more extreme than you seem to be, my fault. Yes, well intended 'thoughtless' people do screw up more. I agree with you 100% on that one. I hope you didn't mistake my disagreeing with your opinions as criticism?

I'm not sure what we actually still disagree on here, actually?

No matter, if all you wanted to do was put all the information in front of people and cause them to shuffle paper and the system more paperwork, then you could have said that from the beginning. If you did, I may have missed it.

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I replied because I disagreed with your post here. You said that people shouldn't question parents' opinions, which I disagreed with. You said it was "forcing" an opinion, which I disagreed with. You seemed to be dismissing RIC as a reasonable choice, which I disagreed with.

I didn't reply just to express all of my own opinions on the subject, just to disagree with an argument ("it's a parental choice and we shouldn't question it") I think is wrong. I figured not expressing my whole opinion in detail would make things easier. Sorry if it caused confusion.
 

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Thats exactly what I meant from it fading away of it's own accord. It's become less 'fashionable' for want of a better word. So when parents gather for their morning coffee it becomes an embarrassment for the parents or mum that has made the decision to circumcize their son. (With whispers of "how could she do that to her son" behind her back)

On a personal note here. My partner of 5 years has 5 boys from her previous marriage. All young adults, from 27 to 19. None of them were circumcised, even though their dad was, yet her personal preference is circumcised penis. Her second youngest recently had to be because of medical problems. His cousin also need to be done for similar reasons. So I'm not totally ignorant to what happens around me, not yet anyway. But again, it was all their choices why and whynot, and had nothing to do with any outside input.
Just out of curiosity, do you think that everyone who is against circumcision or thinks it harmful is uncircumcised? You seem to harp on how the decision affects the parents and never think of how it affects the children who grow up circumcised, wishing they weren't. Have you never considered the effects on men with an unwanted circumcision?

I myself am circumcised and completely against performing the procedure without medical reasons. Despite my views, I have to live with the fact that I am circumcised, along with the physical and mental issues I have as a result. Due to the way the decision is made, no one responsible for performing the procedure or approving it is affected at all, and I am most affected despite the fact that I had no input in the matter. Why do you think such a thing is acceptable?
 
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Just out of curiosity, do you think that everyone who is against circumcision or thinks it harmful is uncircumcised? You seem to harp on how the decision affects the parents and never think of how it affects the children who grow up circumcised, wishing they weren't. Have you never considered the effects on men with an unwanted circumcision?

I myself am circumcised and completely against performing the procedure without medical reasons. Despite my views, I have to live with the fact that I am circumcised, along with the physical and mental issues I have as a result. Due to the way the decision is made, no one responsible for performing the procedure or approving it is affected at all, and I am most affected despite the fact that I had no input in the matter. Why do you think such a thing is acceptable?

Offcourse. The reason why my partners boys were not circumcised is her ex had issues. Of which it is not my place to go into great detail. Why do you have physical and mental issues? My son was circumcised mainly because my wife at the time raised the question, I suppose that was the first time I had ever really thought about whether I was happy with my circumcision. Which as a matter of fact I am.

One bases their own opinions on their own experiences and of those you know I suppose. I never knew of anyone to give me an alternative view. I have three sisters and a brother, who is also circumcised. My older sisters have three boys each, I don't know if they are or not. I suppose also my mother and father would have made sure, as did we, that only a highly skilled, very experienced professional carried out the procedure. The way things are going there will be less and less of those about.

If the day comes when every boy born is not circumcised, how long after that do you think human beings, being the way they are, will decide they like the idea of circumcision again. Who knows what the future holds, the way things are going you might be able to manipulate the human embryo so the male does not grow a foreskin.

But I think that is pie in the sky and nonsense on my part. The human race will have more pressing issues to deal with than whether the human penis has a foreskin or not.
 
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Well, two quick things:

1. That's Australia, not the U.S. I'd rather people didn't decide emotionally like that either way, but in the U.S., this is still widely practiced for no particularly decent reason. That's why my reaction to this

2. I'm glad it's fading, but that still doesn't mean it shouldn't be questioned. That's part of why it is fading. Plus, I think it's wrong to do, so a decrease from 80% to 40% still leaves 40% wrong.



I'm not sure what we actually still disagree on here, actually?




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I replied because I disagreed with your post here. You said that people shouldn't question parents' opinions, which I disagreed with. You said it was "forcing" an opinion, which I disagreed with. You seemed to be dismissing RIC as a reasonable choice, which I disagreed with.

I didn't reply just to express all of my own opinions on the subject, just to disagree with an argument ("it's a parental choice and we shouldn't question it") I think is wrong. I figured not expressing my whole opinion in detail would make things easier. Sorry if it caused confusion.

Yes, I understand, you wish to give parents all the information and make it difficult with paperwork etc, but not illegal. Got it.
 
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You, as a stranger, have no emotional or maternal attachment to any of my children. Also you contribute no financial amount in raising, protecting or caring for my children, family or extended family. Nor do you contribute any other input into family or personal discussion or decisions. All you have is your opinion, which is your own. I respect it, but it's your own.


Times a million likes!!! i agree!!! next minute we're gonna have pro uncut okes sitting at our dinner table telling us what vegetables to eat! I dont see one cut guy getting so up in the face of an uncut member...... just because my dick looks better dosnt have to make you jealous (Social connotation- i am aware) Whats there to like about a piece of skin dangling from your cock if there are efficiencies to be made? part of the the evolution of the human race.
 
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If you look at Québec, they did not need to pass a law to cause circumcision to fade away quickly from culture. A combination of doctors no longer recommending it, and widthdrawing as a free precedure for baby boys did the trick.

So now, only parents who have enough convinction of the benefits of circumcision go for it and pad for it. In the past, circumcision was always like those deserts that come free with the meal. You just take it without looking at the price or asking questions. But the minute you have to pay for the desert, you cosnider your budget, your waisteline and whether the desert is good/bad or way too expemsive for what it is.

Only making it the mark of the rich it seems.....
 
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Well, two quick things:

1. That's Australia, not the U.S. I'd rather people didn't decide emotionally like that either way, but in the U.S., this is still widely practiced for no particularly decent reason. That's why my reaction to this

2. I'm glad it's fading, but that still doesn't mean it shouldn't be questioned. That's part of why it is fading. Plus, I think it's wrong to do, so a decrease from 80% to 40% still leaves 40% wrong.



I'm not sure what we actually still disagree on here, actually?



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I replied because I disagreed with your post here. You said that people shouldn't question parents' opinions, which I disagreed with. You said it was "forcing" an opinion, which I disagreed with. You seemed to be dismissing RIC as a reasonable choice, which I disagreed with.

I didn't reply just to express all of my own opinions on the subject, just to disagree with an argument ("it's a parental choice and we shouldn't question it") I think is wrong. I figured not expressing my whole opinion in detail would make things easier. Sorry if it caused confusion.


You seem to have a grudge against this? your way or the highway??? hmmmm.

Either it stays choice or its going to be a mark of the elite that can afford it and as mark that defines you as a boy that had a medical problem (phimosis) and that only attracts negative bullying. Society will still love sucking on a 'clean' cock head that dosnt require skin to be pulled back.

80% of the time when a penis is being used, washed, or in action it requires the user to pull back the foreskin.... Good enough reason for me to get rid of it altogether and the hack of cheese forming when i go on a weeks camping trip....
80% of the time it isnt used, my penis is safely packed away in my briefs, cosy and protected. The cave man times of chances a bug or insect maybe climbing in there to be protected by my foreskin are ancient and long forgotten.

somehow being circumcised ticks all the right boxes for me.....
 

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Well, go9, we get the point. Of course, whether or not you are actually serious isn't totally clear. Anyway, you are truly amusing. Please write some more funny stuff about foreskins.
 

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You seem to have a grudge against this? your way or the highway??? hmmmm.

A grudge against what? I think infant circumcision is wrong and that it's a decision that should be left up to the individual. I don't have any problem with people choosing circumcision because it's what they want.

Either it stays choice or its going to be a mark of the elite that can afford it and as mark that defines you as a boy that had a medical problem (phimosis) and that only attracts negative bullying. Society will still love sucking on a 'clean' cock head that dosnt require skin to be pulled back.

You're saying society will prefer it, but it will get you bullied anyway? That's confusing. In any case, I have absolutely no problem with circumcision being for people who need or want it. I just think it's a bad thing when imposed on people that don't.

80% of the time when a penis is being used, washed, or in action it requires the user to pull back the foreskin.... Good enough reason for me to get rid of it altogether and the hack of cheese forming when i go on a weeks camping trip....

I'm not sure you totally understand how the foreskin works if you think it's not used during sex or masturbation. Retracting it for washing or urinating doesn't require any extra work, either; it's done in the same fluid motion as grabbing it.

As for the camping trip thing...bro, after a week of not showering, I'm sure you have bigger hygiene concerns than a part of your body that takes 5 seconds to rinse in any available water source.

80% of the time it isnt used, my penis is safely packed away in my briefs, cosy and protected. The cave man times of chances a bug or insect maybe climbing in there to be protected by my foreskin are ancient and long forgotten.

I really don't want this to be a "my dick is best lolol" contest, but circumcised men are not protected from their glans rubbing on their underwear, which could gradually dull fine-touch response. I mean, do you seriously think guys enjoy being uncut because of magical insect protection? I can't say that would make my top 20 reasons I like being uncut.

I dont see one cut guy getting so up in the face of an uncut member...... just because my dick looks better dosnt have to make you jealous (Social connotation- i am aware)

Isn't it a little ironic to be complaining people are "in your face" and then imply everyone is just secretly jealous of your penis? :p

Whats there to like about a piece of skin dangling from your cock if there are efficiencies to be made? part of the the evolution of the human race.

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somehow being circumcised ticks all the right boxes for me.....

I'm glad you're happy being circumcised. I could list all the reasons men prefer to be uncircumcised, if it helps you. I'm not trying to argue you're wrong to like what you like -- I'm glad you're happy. It just seems that you don't believe anyone could like anything but the things you like. Except reasonable people like different things, including re: circumcision. No one should superimpose their personal preference onto someone else. Isn't that what you were complaining about in the first place?
 

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You, as a stranger, have no emotional or maternal attachment to any of my children. Also you contribute no financial amount in raising, protecting or caring for my children, family or extended family. Nor do you contribute any other input into family or personal discussion or decisions. All you have is your opinion, which is your own. I respect it, but it's your own.

What you are not respecting is that someone else is entitled to all of their healthy body.
You are not them. As such, you have no business deciding for them which healthy body parts they get to keep.
You have no idea how they are going to feel about it in 20, 30, 50, or 70 years.
 

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Times a million likes!!! i agree!!! next minute we're gonna have pro uncut okes sitting at our dinner table telling us what vegetables to eat! I dont see one cut guy getting so up in the face of an uncut member...... just because my dick looks better dosnt have to make you jealous (Social connotation- i am aware) Whats there to like about a piece of skin dangling from your cock if there are efficiencies to be made? part of the the evolution of the human race.

Try Sargon20, MalakingTiti, Domisoldo, to name a few cut guys who are in your face about it all the time.
MalakingTiti:
"This is ridiculous. Obviously circumcision is the only civilized way to go"
 

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Offcourse. The reason why my partners boys were not circumcised is her ex had issues. Of which it is not my place to go into great detail. Why do you have physical and mental issues? My son was circumcised mainly because my wife at the time raised the question, I suppose that was the first time I had ever really thought about whether I was happy with my circumcision. Which as a matter of fact I am.
I didn't even know what circumcision actually meant until I was 18, and I had never seen even a picture of an uncircumcised penis. When I was 18, I realized that masturbation didn't really feel right, seemed to require to much effort, and the stroking I used for masturbation seemed awkward. It seemed like my skin was too tight, got too sore, and couldn't be manipulated the way I wanted.

Wondering if anyone else had the same problems, but not really wanting to talk about it with family, I turned to the internet. I found a bunch of people complaining about the same things, and a great many of them blamed being circumcised. I knew I had been circumcised, but wondered why that would be an issue because I had always heard it referred to in a positive manner. I thought that they must be complaining about the wrong thing, and I went looking for information on the foreskin just to prove it to myself.

I found a few diagrams, pictures, and studies, then I eventually saw a video of an intact man moving around the skin on his penis. Everything immediately clicked into place for me. I hate the feel of most lubes on my dick (I guess I'm weird that way) and wondered why I would need to use them to masturbate, but I quickly saw that with a foreskin they would have been unnecessary. I seemed to be genetically predisposed to a gentle gliding stroke that was almost impossible to use without lube, but that was the technique the uncut man was using. I had wondered why the end of my penis looked dry and almost cracked, and the penis of the intact guy was shiny and wet under the foreskin. I had gotten sores after masturbating on the ring around my penis where the skin changed color, and I realized that this was my circumcision scar, and a source of irritation due to the tightness of my skin during erection. It seemed as if everything I was annoyed about with my penis was due to being circumcised.

I saw restoration was an option, but after a few tries at the methods available at the time (this was back in 2000), I quickly realized I didn't like tape on my dick. I figured I'd just have to move on, and I did for awhile until I realized that at age 24, my sensitivity was decreasing to the point where other people couldn't get me off. Once I realized that every sexual encounter for the rest of my life was likely going to end with "Here, let me finish." unless I did something, I decided to give foreskin restoration another try. This time I found some tapeless methods that have worked a bit for me.

I restored for awhile, making some good progress in loosening my skin, and sensitivity returned to my penis enough for me to get off from blowjobs again. I figured that would be enough and stopped restoring, only to find out that without enough skin to cover the head at rest, it quickly went to a more desensitized state within a month. Recently, I've started restoring again, and I'm determined to make this time count. I'm currently in an awkward period in restoration; my glans is now really sensitive, but there isn't very much slack to work with yet, leading people to focus on the head directly which is downright uncomfortable. I'll try to get over the hump though.

Mentally, I realize I've been changed by realizing what circumcision did to me. I've had unpredictable bouts of depression and rage (no, I'm not bipolar). I have strong feelings of resentment toward my parents about it, which has strained my relationship with them. Lately, I've become fairly awkward about starting relationships, because I'm trying to avoid discussion/critique of my restoration. This sucks extra bad because I'm 30 and would like to actually get married and start a family, but I have trouble even getting a girlfriend.

Ill-timed bouts of depression have caused my performance at work to suffer and caused me to fail multiple classes at college. I'm currently on an extended break from college, because I'm on the fence about whether or not to change majors drastically to go into law or medicine. Not because I think I would like those fields, but because they might allow me the opportunity and ability to lessen the prevalence of circumcision in society. Seriously.

Thoughts like that scare me, because as I get older and more frustrated, I realize that being circumcised is taking up more and more of my thought processes. I'd like to be able to just live my life without having to worry about something that I can't change and had no control over. I'm hoping that completing the restoration process will take a burden off my shoulders and just let me live my life. I'd like to have some kids before I'm 40.

So yeah, physical and mental problems galore for you. I realize that not everyone who gets circumcised feels the same way as me, and I'm probably not even typical of the average person upset over being circumcised. All that said though, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that if my parents had declined to have me cut, my life would probably be better. I oppose circumcision because I don't think it's fair for anyone to feel the way I do and spend their life chasing what might have been rather than actually living it.

So now you've heard the story from someone unhappy about being cut. Sorry, for the emo text wall. Unloading like this has been the best therapy for me. I hope your son turns out better than I did.
 
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I've noticed odors from many of the uncut women I have played with.
I think a circumcised vulva is much more sanitary.
Besides, the clitoris is ugly.

Argumentation by asinine analogy?

But who am I to argue about anything?

After all, I was circumcised as an adult...an operation tantamount to...errr... lobotomy?
 
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What you are not respecting is that someone else is entitled to all of their healthy body.
You are not them. As such, you have no business deciding for them which healthy body parts they get to keep.
You have no idea how they are going to feel about it in 20, 30, 50, or 70 years.

I hold no malice toward my mum and dad for any decisions they made for me. They were/are parents just like I was. They made decisions for their kids just like I did. Just like their parents before them and so on. Just like my son and his wife will make decisions for there children and so on.

They probably have a different view than I on some stuff. Just like I had a different view on some stuff as my mum and dad. Do I try and convince them or beat my chest because that my way may be better? No.

Is it any of my business to interfere with any decisions regarding how they raise their kids, yes, circumcision, if that were the case? No.

Am I here if they wish to ask my advice as a parent, if they need it? Yes.

Are you there if they wish to ask advice or opinion from you? Yes.

Do they or anyone else have to do or follow advice or opinion from anyone else, you or I? No

By the way, my body is very healthy, thanks in great part to the care of my mother and father.
 

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Good for you. Glad you are healthy and happy. It sounds like you have great parents.

Does any of that justify cutting off a healthy body part? Any body part, off of anybody, of any gender?
 
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I didn't even know what circumcision actually meant until I was 18, and I had never seen even a picture of an uncircumcised penis. When I was 18, I realized that masturbation didn't really feel right, seemed to require to much effort, and the stroking I used for masturbation seemed awkward. It seemed like my skin was too tight, got too sore, and couldn't be manipulated the way I wanted.

Wondering if anyone else had the same problems, but not really wanting to talk about it with family, I turned to the internet. I found a bunch of people complaining about the same things, and a great many of them blamed being circumcised. I knew I had been circumcised, but wondered why that would be an issue because I had always heard it referred to in a positive manner. I thought that they must be complaining about the wrong thing, and I went looking for information on the foreskin just to prove it to myself.

I found a few diagrams, pictures, and studies, then I eventually saw a video of an intact man moving around the skin on his penis. Everything immediately clicked into place for me. I hate the feel of most lubes on my dick (I guess I'm weird that way) and wondered why I would need to use them to masturbate, but I quickly saw that with a foreskin they would have been unnecessary. I seemed to be genetically predisposed to a gentle gliding stroke that was almost impossible to use without lube, but that was the technique the uncut man was using. I had wondered why the end of my penis looked dry and almost cracked, and the penis of the intact guy was shiny and wet under the foreskin. I had gotten sores after masturbating on the ring around my penis where the skin changed color, and I realized that this was my circumcision scar, and a source of irritation due to the tightness of my skin during erection. It seemed as if everything I was annoyed about with my penis was due to being circumcised.

I saw restoration was an option, but after a few tries at the methods available at the time (this was back in 2000), I quickly realized I didn't like tape on my dick. I figured I'd just have to move on, and I did for awhile until I realized that at age 24, my sensitivity was decreasing to the point where other people couldn't get me off. Once I realized that every sexual encounter for the rest of my life was likely going to end with "Here, let me finish." unless I did something, I decided to give foreskin restoration another try. This time I found some tapeless methods that have worked a bit for me.

I restored for awhile, making some good progress in loosening my skin, and sensitivity returned to my penis enough for me to get off from blowjobs again. I figured that would be enough and stopped restoring, only to find out that without enough skin to cover the head at rest, it quickly went to a more desensitized state within a month. Recently, I've started restoring again, and I'm determined to make this time count. I'm currently in an awkward period in restoration; my glans is now really sensitive, but there isn't very much slack to work with yet, leading people to focus on the head directly which is downright uncomfortable. I'll try to get over the hump though.

Mentally, I realize I've been changed by realizing what circumcision did to me. I've had unpredictable bouts of depression and rage (no, I'm not bipolar). I have strong feelings of resentment toward my parents about it, which has strained my relationship with them. Lately, I've become fairly awkward about starting relationships, because I'm trying to avoid discussion/critique of my restoration. This sucks extra bad because I'm 30 and would like to actually get married and start a family, but I have trouble even getting a girlfriend.

Ill-timed bouts of depression have caused my performance at work to suffer and caused me to fail multiple classes at college. I'm currently on an extended break from college, because I'm on the fence about whether or not to change majors drastically to go into law or medicine. Not because I think I would like those fields, but because they might allow me the opportunity and ability to lessen the prevalence of circumcision in society. Seriously.

Thoughts like that scare me, because as I get older and more frustrated, I realize that being circumcised is taking up more and more of my thought processes. I'd like to be able to just live my life without having to worry about something that I can't change and had no control over. I'm hoping that completing the restoration process will take a burden off my shoulders and just let me live my life. I'd like to have some kids before I'm 40.

So yeah, physical and mental problems galore for you. I realize that not everyone who gets circumcised feels the same way as me, and I'm probably not even typical of the average person upset over being circumcised. All that said though, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that if my parents had declined to have me cut, my life would probably be better. I oppose circumcision because I don't think it's fair for anyone to feel the way I do and spend their life chasing what might have been rather than actually living it.

So now you've heard the story from someone unhappy about being cut. Sorry, for the emo text wall. Unloading like this has been the best therapy for me. I hope your son turns out better than I did.

Thank you for sharing your story Talbain. My son is the same age as you are. There have never been the problems with his circumcision that you seem to be having. Not as far as I am aware, but I am sure he would have expressed them to me if there had of been. My partners ex suffered from Hypospadias. Numerous operations were performed by doctors, unfortunatley most to correct the mistakes of the previous doctors. This continued well into married life. These issues eventually contributed to the deterioration of the relationship. It was not a failed circumcision which swayed their decision, but anything at all to do with sharp objects and penis occupying the same space.

I cannot speak from your, or a medical perspective, I can only speak from a parents perspective. Much has changed in the way of thinking regarding circumcision, like many other areas.

Many say that it is not a parents right to make the decision regarding circumcision. On the other hand it is the parents choice to bring that life into the world, or not. Most children that arrive these days, and have from sometime before you were born, have been children born by choice. I am not trying to take anything off into a different direction here, I simply am making it clear that your parents or family you were born into, wanted you.

Whether your parents read literature back then on circumcision I do not know. For me, and my son, (from your era) as I said earlier, the decision was from my own experience those around me or closest to me, and more importantly his mum, she was a registered nurse. There was no google, polls or discussion forums. If you asked, it could be done... and they probably based their decisions on pretty much the same things as we did.

Maybe we were, I was, all of the persons around us at the time my son or I were born, were lucky to have good doctors, very experienced in the procedure.

Would I change my mind these days regarding circumcision? Possibly.

What I do not agree with though is a militant attitude, some of the material out there is rubbish, from both sides. One thing I am not is 'mutilated'. That sort of terminology is used for shaming and embarrassing people. In the end it does more harm than good, for those that are circumcised, and those that chose to be. From what you have said, you do not sound to be mutilated either. You may choose to view it differently though.

I believe in all the information and a parents decision though. I think any argument in that area to persuade me otherwise is futile.

I can't do much in the way of helping you with your difficulties. My first thought though would be to sit down with your mum and dad and talk it over with them, offcourse, they may have some guilt issues as well. It all depends how approachable they are, guilt can frustrate people also.

If you can or are able to resolve much of the emotional and mind issues, it may help with the physical ones. You may help eachother. I say this because we are all not here forever, are we perfect all of the time with all of the things we do? No. But we can try resolve some of the things that make it difficult.
 
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Good for you. Glad you are healthy and happy. It sounds like you have great parents.

Does any of that justify cutting off a healthy body part? Any body part, off of anybody, of any gender?

Thank you. Read above^.
 
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You, as a stranger, have no emotional or maternal attachment to any of my children. Also you contribute no financial amount in raising, protecting or caring for my children, family or extended family. Nor do you contribute any other input into family or personal discussion or decisions. All you have is your opinion, which is your own. I respect it, but it's your own.

Therefore if you want to cut off your daughter's clitoral hood it's none of my business, I get it.
 
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