Am I the only one who likes being circumcised ?

[prepstudinsc]

That's what it says in the article. Motrin and Tylenol are analgesics and anti-inflammatories, not blood thinners are they? You missed a larger point. If he had not been circumcised, he would not have died.

Motrin does have some blood thinning qualities, that's why it is not supposed to be taken in conjunction with aspirin.

But the article does clearly state that the mother gave him drugs he wasn't supposed to have. Blaming the death on circumcision is like blaming a murder on a gun. It's not the gun that does the killing, it's the person who shoots the gun.

 

[Damien_9]

Hi, Im cut and my boyfriend is uncut, I like being cut and I prefer uncut men, but i would not change mine if I had the chance. I used to think of what it would be like to be uncut, but theres no point dwelling on what could/should have been. I'm cut and confident and comfortable with my penis. I'm from australia and most guys around my age, 21, are uncut.

 

[JTalbain]

Motrin does have some blood thinning qualities, that's why it is not supposed to be taken in conjunction with aspirin.

But the article does clearly state that the mother gave him drugs he wasn't supposed to have. Blaming the death on circumcision is like blaming a murder on a gun. It's not the gun that does the killing, it's the person who shoots the gun.

Yes and no, from a balanced viewpoint. If a person is given an unnecessary appendectomy, then takes aspirin and dies due to internal bleeding caused by a combination of the two, what caused it? The aspirin or the procedure. Technically, both did, but the procedure was responsible for the conditions which allowed the aspirin to seal the deal. Since the procedure should never have been performed in the first place, then legally and logically, the procedure is at fault.

Slightly more straightforward example. If you go out with someone in the middle of a blizzard, then break their legs and leave them to the elements, they'll technically be killed by the weather, but you'll still be charged with murder if anyone finds out.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Motrin does have some blood thinning qualities, that's why it is not supposed to be taken in conjunction with aspirin.

But the article does clearly state that the mother gave him drugs he wasn't supposed to have. Blaming the death on circumcision is like blaming a murder on a gun. It's not the gun that does the killing, it's the person who shoots the gun.

Prepstud. I feel bad for you to be honest. You may be more culturally influenced because of your parents and what they do for a living. You are a nice guy, and I know you're not as old as me, so you should be able to learn new things. I hope you'll be able to resolve this whole cultural cognitive dissonance thing in the right way sometime in your lifetime.

 

[prepstudinsc]

Prepstud. I feel bad for you to be honest. You may be more culturally influenced because of your parents and what they do for a living.

There's nothing wrong with being culturally influenced. There are plenty of other cultural influences that I was exposed to as I grew up but that I don't believe in now. I was raised in one Christian religion, but am not part of that denomination now. I made the choice to join the church in which I identified with more of their beliefs.

I'm sorry that you can't understand that some of us are HAPPY that we're cut and that most of us don't harbor anger about it AND most people don't have problems from being cut. What I'm tired of is the crusaders trying to tell us that we're somehow less than, because we are cut.

 

[mandoman]

There is something wrong with surgery on a kid, because your culture influences it.
If the body part is healthy, no one has any business performing surgery on it.
They don't know how the kid is going to feel later.
The kid might be fine with it. Like you. The kid might not be fine with it. Like dxjnorto.
Neither is a wrong point of view.
The point is, the foreskin belongs to him. Not you, however well meaning. Not the doctor. Why do something which is not reversible, when you can't tell whether the person is going to love it, hate it, or feel somewhere in between?
I have never thought of a circumcised person as being less for it.
I can't see that any right minded person would.

 

[deleted15807]

There is something wrong with surgery on a kid, because your culture influences it.

I just don't understand why you aren't marching in the streets for your beliefs? You waste your time dicking around here at LPSG where no circumcisions are taking place. The anti-abortionists know how to stage a protest. Why don't you?

 

[B_dxjnorto]

I'm sorry that you can't understand that some of us are HAPPY that we're cut

I don't have a problem with you being happy. I have a problem with you equivocating when someone bleeds to death because of RIC. Since RIC is unnecessary, so are horrors like this.

 

[D_Eliassaph Daniell Goosegarden Jr]

It really is a simple issue. An unnecessary surgery is being done to people too young to have a voice. It is allowed because it is seen as a benign thing of no consequence later on. The fact is that many people do suffer both immediately and later because of it. But because it is such an easy-money thing for the Drs & hospitals they just keep perpetuating the practice. If anyone is glad they were cut, great. I just resent that the choice was taken from me. If it were any other unneeded surgery, both the parents and doctors would all be answering to charges in court.

 

[JTalbain]

I just don't understand why you aren't marching in the streets for your beliefs? You waste your time dicking around here at LPSG where no circumcisions are taking place. The anti-abortionists know how to stage a protest. Why don't you?

True, protests are intended as a more visible, more constructive way to get a point across. However, once someone has been made aware of a particular stance nowadays, they often go to the internet to research the subject. Also, a protest is meaningless unless you can get a good portion of the population to back you. If you don't, you're just another group of crazies.

Actually an internet forum about the subject is one of the best places to discuss it and make a difference, because everyone comes in willingly and ready to read about or discuss the topic, whereas a protest for a cause very few have heard of is unlikely to make the national news, and will also be ignored by anyone locally who hasn't heard of your cause.

It's also worth noting that the pro-lifers aren't just marching in the streets, they're usually protesting in front of medical clinics which perform abortions. Circumcision, meanwhile, is generally performed in whatever medical facilities deliver babies. A protest would not be allowed to take place in front of a major hospital, because it would interfere with emergency services trying to enter/exit in order to save people.

 

[JTalbain]

It really is a simple issue. An unnecessary surgery is being done to people too young to have a voice. It is allowed because it is seen as a benign thing of no consequence later on. The fact is that many people do suffer both immediately and later because of it. But because it is such an easy-money thing for the Drs & hospitals they just keep perpetuating the practice. If anyone is glad they were cut, great. I just resent that the choice was taken from me. If it were any other unneeded surgery, both the parents and doctors would all be answering to charges in court.

Exactly the point most anti-circ people are trying to make. When you get right down to it, we're not asking for anything more than consistency.

 

[Dooky]

I am one of those people who is only mad that it wasn't my choice. i think in the end i would be circumsized but, i would of preferred if my parents would of let it be until i was old enough to make my own choice.

also, The only reason girls like circumsized dicks is because there are so many more of them. American girls are always saying uncirc is "scarier" etc... I just dislike how uncircumsized is seen as gross in America even though it is our natural state.

 

[deleted213967]

I just dislike how uncircumsized is seen as gross in America even though it is our natural state.

I never grasped the spurious "natural" argument.

Aren't hemorrhoids "natural"?
Isn't the purulent secretion of acne "natural"?
Isn't foul-smelling flatulence "natural"?

Are those gross-yet-sooooo-natural examples enough or do I need to be more graphic?

 

[B_dxjnorto]

I never grasped the spurious "natural" argument.

C'mon. Natural as in two eyes, two arms, two legs. There is nothing "spurious" and nothing to "grasp" about it.

 

[jadnash]

The only way for me is Cut!!!

 

[deleted15807]

Actually an internet forum about the subject is one of the best places to discuss it and make a difference

And how is that working out? How many people have been converted? How many parents come here looking for advice from a 'large penis support group'?

An internet forum is unmoderated and unedited. It's where government 9/11 conspiracies live and breath, the holocaust was a hoax and the world is going to end in 2012 drivel goes on and on. Unless you are at a site that is moderated and edited for factual information it's nothing more than hearsay.

Circumcision, meanwhile, is generally performed in whatever medical facilities deliver babies. A protest would not be allowed to take place in front of a major hospital, because it would interfere with emergency services trying to enter/exit in order to save people.

That's a real cop out. The Buddhist monks in Vietnam knew how to protest. They lit themselves on fire to protest the war in their homeland. And this can be done anywhere and the event will be covered....guaranteed.

 

[eurotop40]

And how is that working out? How many people have been converted? How many parents come here looking for advice from a 'large penis support group'?

An internet forum is unmoderated and unedited. It's where government 9/11 conspiracies live and breath, the holocaust was a hoax and the world is going to end in 2012 drivel goes on and on. Unless you are at a site that is moderated and edited for factual information it's nothing more than hearsay.

That's a real cop out. The Buddhist monks in Vietnam knew how to protest. They lit themselves on fire to protest the war in their homeland. And this can be done anywhere and the event will be covered....guaranteed.

So why do you make all the time these acid comments?

 

[deleted15807]

So why do you make all the time these acid comments?

Acid? Have you seen dxj's comments? :smile: This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

 

[Dooky]

I never grasped the spurious "natural" argument.

Aren't hemorrhoids "natural"?
Isn't the purulent secretion of acne "natural"?
Isn't foul-smelling flatulence "natural"?

Are those gross-yet-sooooo-natural examples enough or do I need to be more graphic?

are we born with hemorrhoids?
are we born with acne?
the flatulence example is irrelevant because it is not a long-lasting effect. you don't always smell like farts just because you fart once.

Are we born uncircumsized?

Way to completely misquote me as well. good job there. I said i dislike how just because it is uncommon it is viewed as "gross" by many people. It's like looking at a black guy in a room of 9 other white guys and saying ew.


Next time you wanna look like a complete jackass again just message me.

 

[deleted213967]

are we born with hemorrhoids?
are we born with acne?
the flatulence example is irrelevant because it is not a long-lasting effect. you don't always smell like farts just because you fart once.

Are we born uncircumsized?

Way to completely misquote me as well. good job there. I said i dislike how just because it is uncommon it is viewed as "gross" by many people. It's like looking at a black guy in a room of 9 other white guys and saying ew.


Next time you wanna look like a complete jackass again just message me.

No, we are not born uncircumsized, we are born uncircumcised.

I quoted the offensive passage in shame red for maximum effect.