Am I the only one who likes being circumcised ?

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That's what it says in the article. Motrin and Tylenol are analgesics and anti-inflammatories, not blood thinners are they?

Mortin is IB which is an NSAID. It reduces inflammation, thins the blood and is an analgesic. Tylenol is not an NSAID, does not reduce inflammation and does not thin the blood... it's just a painkiller.
 

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I hate the un word.

Full sized. Not circumsized.

Well what about us who hate the "mutilated" or "amputated" epithets you spew at us cut guys? We're not deformed. We're not mutants.

If you can dish it out, you have to be ready to take it back. Please tell me how uncircumcised is offensive? Un meaning "not". There is nothing derrogatory about the word "uncircumcised" while deformed, mutilated, amputated all decry something that is less than.
 

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I've never seen the underneath of a penis look like that. I am saying it's a bad thing but it looks really different
 

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I just don't understand why you aren't marching in the streets for your beliefs? You waste your time dicking around here at LPSG where no circumcisions are taking place. The anti-abortionists know how to stage a protest. Why don't you?

I do my share. I sign petitions. I've written my congressional representatives, multiple times. I lambasted the CDC for their leaked plan to advise universal infant circumcision in the US, multiple times. I correct bad foreskin advice from doctors on the web. One went as far as referring to me as a fellow urologist who was helping out, which even I found odd. I think if the public knew more about how harmless and beneficial a foreskin really is, they would consider leaving them alone more, and spare an awful lot of pain.
Thanks for the concern.
 

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So why do you make all the time these acid comments?

Because he is a cynic, whose mission is to reject. He is talking out of the negative side, denigration. It's like a baby stuck in the 'no' stage, but grown up, with more powerful words.
 

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Well what about us who hate the "mutilated" or "amputated" epithets you spew at us cut guys? We're not deformed. We're not mutants.

If you can dish it out, you have to be ready to take it back. Please tell me how uncircumcised is offensive? Un meaning "not". There is nothing derrogatory about the word "uncircumcised" while deformed, mutilated, amputated all decry something that is less than.

People who have foreskins look at 'uncircumcised' like it is something which has not been 'done yet', like people think it needs to be done. They prefer 'intact'. Not a big deal to me, I'm just explaining the point of view.
 

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I love being circumcised, too. I was circumcised as an adult.

There seems to be hardly anyone around who prefers being circumcised.

Guys from the UK and Europe all seem to be uncircumcised.
Guys from America seem to be circumcised but loads are restoring their foreskinby stretching the remaining skin.

I grew up in the UK with a foreskin but decided to get myself circumcised when I was 16. I much prefer it. My penis is cleaner, it's more hygenic, it looks better, my girlfriend prefers it, and above all the most sensitive part (the glans) gets full stimulation.

I know I'm probably in a minority here but is there anyone else out there who is circumcised and prefers it ??
 

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No, we are not born uncircumsized, we are born uncircumcised.

I quoted the offensive passage in shame red for maximum effect.

I hate the un word.

Full sized. Not circumsized.


I would say none of the above.

We are born "intact".

The terms "not circumcised" or "uncircumcised" seem to imply that circumcised is the natural state.
 

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No, we are not born uncircumsized, we are born uncircumcised.

I quoted the offensive passage in shame red for maximum effect.

I hate the un word.

Full sized. Not circumsized.


I would say none of the above.

We are born "intact".

The terms "not circumcised" or "uncircumcised" seem to imply that circumcised is the natural state.
 

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If you can dish it out, you have to be ready to take it back. Please tell me how uncircumcised is offensive? Un meaning "not". There is nothing derogatory about the word "uncircumcised" while deformed, mutilated, amputated all decry something that is less than.
The reason I don't like it is because it implies that there is something undone -- like you're going to need it eventually, which is of course inaccurate. So I just think it is stupid. Honestly, you guys can be pretty thin skinned.

When I asked my mom to explain my circumcision, she said that she couldn't possibly have asked her brothers, all of whom are intact. That would have just been beyond the pale for her. She is credible and blithe, so it is possible she is telling the truth. She related this story to me. The doctors' instructions were to put petroleum jelly on the circumcision wound and alcohol on the umbilicus. Her girlfriend got it backwards and put alcohol on the circumcision wound and petroleum on the umbilicus. I think she wanted me to congratulate her for getting it right. Or like it was funny or something.
 
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I do my share. I sign petitions. I've written my congressional representatives, multiple times. I lambasted the CDC for their leaked plan to advise universal infant circumcision in the US, multiple times. I correct bad foreskin advice from doctors on the web.


  • I sign petitions - you mean there are actual petitions? For example?

  • I've written my congressional representatives, multiple times - I hope they understand how important this is. I mean with global warming, the financial crisis and meltdown, double-digit unemployment, health care, sustainable energy, homelessness, universal health care, H1N1, the deficit. I hope they realize how important circumcision is in the grand scheme.

  • I correct bad foreskin advice from doctors on the web - and you have what medical training such that you can correct 'bad' advice'?
  • I lambasted the CDC for their leaked plan to advise universal infant circumcision in the US - same...- and you have what medical training such that you can correct 'bad' advice'? was this on ethical grounds? since that would be the only area you have a leg to stand on?

 

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  • I sign petitions - you mean there are actual petitions? For example?
  • I've written my congressional representatives, multiple times - I hope they understand how important this is. I mean with global warming, the financial crisis and meltdown, double-digit unemployment, health care, sustainable energy, homelessness, universal health care, H1N1, the deficit. I hope they realize how important circumcision is in the grand scheme.
  • I correct bad foreskin advice from doctors on the web - and you have what medical training such that you can correct 'bad' advice'?
  • I lambasted the CDC for their leaked plan to advise universal infant circumcision in the US - same...- and you have what medical training such that you can correct 'bad' advice'? was this on ethical grounds? since that would be the only area you have a leg to stand on?

1) We could quote petitions, and promptly have them bashed by you as being put together by psycho nutjobs. They are compiled occasionally by anti-circ special interest groups such as NO HARMM in order to make a joint appeal to medical organizations and legislators. They've had moderate success, too. Did you think that medical researchers decided to delve into the negative side effects of a highly profitable medical procedure which had been around for centuries on a whim? What piqued their interest?

2) Don't forget, it's even more important right now to stall and do nothing at all in order to make the president lose face than to do anything important. If they ever do get around to passing any significant reform however, it wouldn't be that difficult to sneak it in. Batch legislation has been a gripe of many people for years, because of people slapping as much as they can to serve a political agenda into every bill, alongside the reforms that everyone wants. People are forced to take what they want with what they don't in order to get significant changes made.

3) In the US, PhD does usually equate to "I am right". There are better questions to ask though. Were the doctors urologists, sexual researchers, or another specialty? Was he contradicting them with his own opinion or with information from a credible source? I'm not sure if you're old enough to remember this in the news, but the "science" behind the practice of touch therapy, many of the practicioners being college graduates, was basically discredited for the medical community at large by a 9-year old girl, who performed a single scientific study.

It's also noteworthy that many doctors just google their patients symptoms or go to WebMD in order to assist with diagnosis. Anyone with an internet connection can do the same, and they'd probably find that it's not exceptionally friendly to the concept of circumcision.

4) Consider Kantian ethics in this case, as well as the above cases. The results would definitely be significant if everyone did the same.
 
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1) We could quote petitions, and promptly have them bashed by you as being put together by psycho nutjobs. They are compiled occasionally by anti-circ special interest groups such as NO HARMM in order to make a joint appeal to medical organizations and legislators. They've had moderate success, too. Did you think that medical researchers decided to delve into the negative side effects of a highly profitable medical procedure which had been around for centuries on a whim? What piqued their interest?

2) Don't forget, it's even more important right now to stall and do nothing at all in order to make the president lose face than to do anything important. If they ever do get around to passing any significant reform however, it wouldn't be that difficult to sneak it in. Batch legislation has been a gripe of many people for years, because of people slapping as much as they can to serve a political agenda into every bill, alongside the reforms that everyone wants. People are forced to take what they want with what they don't in order to get significant changes made.

3) In the US, PhD does usually equate to "I am right". There are better questions to ask though. Were the doctors urologists, sexual researchers, or another specialty? Was he contradicting them with his own opinion or with information from a credible source? I'm not sure if you're old enough to remember this in the news, but the "science" behind the practice of touch therapy, many of the practicioners being college graduates, was basically discredited for the medical community at large by a 9-year old girl, who performed a single scientific study.

It's also noteworthy that many doctors just google their patients symptoms or go to WebMD in order to assist with diagnosis. Anyone with an internet connection can do the same, and they'd probably find that it's not exceptionally friendly to the concept of circumcision.

4) Consider Kantian ethics in this case, as well as the above cases. The results would definitely be significant if everyone did the same.

So, your short (cut?) answer is:

No, you are not a doctor.

No further questions Your Honor.
 

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Mortin is IB which is an NSAID. It reduces inflammation, thins the blood and is an analgesic. Tylenol is not an NSAID, does not reduce inflammation and does not thin the blood... it's just a painkiller.
If the difference between Ibuprofen and Tylenol is a dead baby, that's a razor edge we're skating on. RIC is for idiots. Medical degree doesn't mean ethical behavior. On the contrary sometimes. Power and money corrupt.
 

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So, your short (cut?) answer is:

No, you are not a doctor.

No further questions Your Honor.

Actually, he asked what medical training he had to substantiate a claim of bad advice. Doctors give bad advice all the time, it's why we get second opinions. Also his question was a trap, as it implied that medical training was the only possible basis on which you could correct a doctor. As I stated in my previous post,a 9-year-old girl basically disproved touch therapy with a school project.

The correct and unbiased way of asking the question would have been "On what basis did you oppose his claims?" He didn't ask it this way, of course, because the implication that medical training is necessary discredits any argument that he makes.

What about the people here that have remarked about their penis losing sensation after circumcision? Did they need to get medical training to make that assessment?