Am I the only one who likes being circumcised ?

[DaveyR]

oh dear. 106 pages.

Exactly Tiresome isn't it. Live and let live and Vive La Difference

 

[darkbond007]

Think of the chances of you sleeping through a knife going through your skin.
Then think of the chances it was shock, not sleep.

There you go again trying to tell me what happened.

It was not shock...it was sleep...

 

[voidout]

Exactly Tiresome isn't it. Live and let live and Vive La Difference

huzzah.

 

[mandoman]

When I see someone as attractive as you and there's that part missing it makes me feel sad that there is something marring your perfection. I think that every time I see a beautiful man who is missing part of his body. I feel the same way about babies. With any luck at all most of us are born perfect and then they do that awful thing to us. It truly makes me sick at heart with my culture.

Have to agree with Prepstudinsc and Northland on this one.

 

[Sapien]

Of all the issues(mass extinction, drought, famine, sustainability, nuclear proliferation, hunger, global warming, etc) that mankind and the planet face this is one that will never register on the radar. There most likely won't be any cut or uncut babies to worry about on our current trajectory. The planet will just collapse under the weight of all the goddamn humans.

I just don't care about the foreskins of babies. I don't have to care. I have a right not to care.

I agree with your first paragraph. Man is the only creature on this planet that does not have a purposeful benefit to the planet. Even the despised cockroach has its place, it processes decaying matter and waste from other creatures. We just proliferate, pollute, use up the planets natural resources and cause the extinction of more useful creatures. Dinosaurs ruled our planet for about 200 million years. Modern man has been around for about 200 thousand years. We will be lucky to make it through the next century.

Unfortunately those problems that you discussed are way beyond our ability to control or significantly influence (I do my part to minimize my carbon footprint but obviously this is not enough). I don't worry about what I cannot control or significantly influence.

This planet created us, it gave us our drive. As much as I understand our situation I love people and interacting with them. I am a breeder and I have bred and thus contributed to the overpopulation of the planet. My breeding years are now over but I still like to practice. I don't believe in God but do believe in maintaining a high moral standard. Thus, I believe in treating people humanely and dislike human suffering. I believe that I and other men that were circumcised as infants are victims and it is worth the effort to spread the word to minimize the number of future victims.

You are correct that the religious associations with circumcision make this fight a tough one. But, for now I am content with at least minimizing non-religious circumcisions. In reality, the circumcision rate is declining. When I was born the circumcision rate in Canada (I am Canadian) and the U.S was probably around 95%. In Canada it is now around 10%. In the U.S. the current circumcision rate is reported to be about 60%.

With the internet more and more people are becoming aware of "the truth" and are opting to leave their male offspring intact.

And yes, you personally do have the right to not care! But since are a contributor to this thread, part of you does care.

 

[mandoman]

Of all the issues(mass extinction, drought, famine, sustainability, nuclear proliferation, hunger, global warming, etc) that mankind and the planet face this is one that will never register on the radar. There most likely won't be any cut or uncut babies to worry about on our current trajectory. The planet will just collapse under the weight of all the goddamn humans.

I just don't care about the foreskins of babies. I don't have to care. I have a right not to care.

You've proven, time and again, that you don't care about babies, by the twisted remarks, such as 'take them to see a Harry Potter movie' to help them get over the pain of their circumcision. We've seen 106 pages of you not caring. How much can you not care, and still defend an indefensible practice of performing unneeded operations on children?

 

[Sapien]

I'll leave it at this. The OP of this thread asked if he was the only one who likes his circumcised penis. Regardless of how you were circumcised people chimed in. Quite simply circumcision is not going anywhere unless you can prove to me and the hundreds of millions of men out there that we are missing out. You certainly cant prove it to me, I know better having had a circumcision.

Yes that is what he asked. My answer is "no there are others that also like being circumcised but I don't and this is why....... you know the rest.

You are right that circumcision will be around for a long time. However, the rates are declining. People ARE cluing in that it is WRONG and are deciding to leave their infant sons intact. Your personal experience is not relevant in the grand scheme of things. You had a defective foreskin and thus your experience is not the same as most of the 70% of the male population that are intact.

 

[mandoman]

I'll leave it at this. The OP of this thread asked if he was the only one who likes his circumcised penis. Regardless of how you were circumcised people chimed in. Quite simply circumcision is not going anywhere unless you can prove to me and the hundreds of millions of men out there that we are missing out. You certainly cant prove it to me, I know better having had a circumcision.

I think you all are entitled to say that RIC is wrong and people should be allowed to make the choice themselves. No doubt, but in the real world it does not work that way. You will have people do it for religious reasons, or for tradition, or because the mother or father wants it done or maybe cause the doctor convinced them or the dozens of reasons someone may undergo RIC.

The only thing you are entitled to is this. Your opinion and inflicting that opinion on your son. You simply cannot tell people what to do. It would be like me saying "You all should circumcise your kid because his penis will grow longer" You dont know and. You dont have an iota of evidence that cannot be refuted that can honestly change anyone who is intelligent mind.

The root of my problem is this:

I take my cock out. It's circumcised. You reaction is that I am inadequate. WHY? You have no evidence but just the little argument you have or the belief you have or because you feel this is how the world should be you form your judgement of me. And you do not allow me to just live in the contentment of my penis. If you have a problem iwth yours then it is your damn problem. On the flip side I will agree that cut guys do it to uncut guys as well where they would scorn you on it being dirtier or uglier or what have you. For the past few weeks I have stayed from this argument but what troubles me with anti-circ crew is that they are quite willing to say ANYTHING just to get someone to hate their penis.

I have never said that a circumcised penis was in any way inadequate.
Family members can do things with their circumcised penis that I can only dream of, like sex 8 times in a row. I circumcised one son. I would have to think there was something wrong with half the people I love, to believe the crap you purport that I do.

You are unwilling to admit that it is not ethical to remove a healthy body part from an unconsenting person. I'll be over for your kidney in an hour.

 

[mandoman]

There you go again trying to tell me what happened.

It was not shock...it was sleep...

How often do you sleep through someone sticking a knife in your skin?
There you go again, telling me it was sleep.
It's a little far fetched for me to believe, having heard the screams.

 

[mandoman]

Why when a person has an adult circumcision you question it, you make it seem like nothing can go wrong with a foreskin. Your even more delusional than I thought...

I don't question it.
Things happen. A chronic, untreated yeast infection can give a person acquired phimosis. Ben Affleck was circumcised to repair an injury. Some people have congenital problems which can only be fixed by circumcision.
Then again, only .009% of Finnish males get circumcised, so a real need in a country where it is not their culture is rare.

 

[DaveyR]

Jeez you guys give it a rest.

 

[Sapien]

Who deems it unnecessary?

RE: circumcision of healthy foreskin tissue

The AMA, Canadian Provincial Medical Associations, Australia, Sweden, Italy, UK, India, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Finland, Germany etc................guessing 90% of the countries out there with 70% of the male population not circumcised.

That does not deem it unnecessary. That's like saying because 90% of the world is straight then the 10% of gay people are unnecessary and should be put to death.

????? What the hell ?????

Where did that come from?

 

[mandoman]

Jeez you guys give it a rest.

If you don't like it, read something else. Nobody is forcing you.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Why doesn't everyone just agree to disagree? Some people are circumsized, some aren't, and no one is going to come to any sort of agreement here so isn't it time to give it a rest?

Welcome to LPSG. Beats me how can you and DaveyR can so easily dismiss RIC by saying some are, some aren't. Everyone is born with the same equipment. There is really nothing to agree or disagree about when it is obvious that RIC has run its course and should be abolished by now.

 

[TLCTugger]

Live and let live and Vive La Difference

Well, you've hit upon something. I think we have La Difference in how we define live and let live.

To me, live and let live means drop the fucking knife and back away from the baby.

This is absolutely the domain of the governent, NOT the family.

The govt says you can't lop off your kid's earlobe, the govt says you can't deny him a needed blood transfusion. The govt says you can't get anywhere near the genitals to so much as do a pin-prick (if it's a girl), and it's just a matter of time before boys' genitals are protected also.

 

[TyUnsaved]

I'm glad i'm circumcised, and glad that it was done right after birth and have no recolection of it.

Same here. And I love my cut cock, if it was uncut I'd want it cut...

 

[mandoman]

Same here. And I love my cut cock, if it was uncut I'd want it cut...

Good for you. Under what TLC tugger proposes, you would still be able to get it cut. The guy who wanted it uncut, and got it cut at birth, would no longer have a problem.

 

[darkbond007]

Yes that is what he asked. My answer is "no there are others that also like being circumcised but I don't and this is why....... you know the rest.

You are right that circumcision will be around for a long time. However, the rates are declining. People ARE cluing in that it is WRONG and are deciding to leave their infant sons intact. Your personal experience is not relevant in the grand scheme of things. You had a defective foreskin and thus your experience is not the same as most of the 70% of the male population that are intact.

You say the rate is declining. However the amount of circumcisions remain the same. Population density is just increasing in certain cultures.

You are entitled to your opinion on circumcision. But all it is is your personal opinion/preference. In the grand scheme of things your personal preference is irrelevant as well.

I don't question it.
Things happen. A chronic, untreated yeast infection can give a person acquired phimosis. Ben Affleck was circumcised to repair an injury. Some people have congenital problems which can only be fixed by circumcision.
Then again, only .009% of Finnish males get circumcised, so a real need in a country where it is not their culture is rare.

I'll just use an argument that you guys use a lot. Bringining up the Finnish reference is irrelevant due to several things:
1. Just like people can be misinformed about why they should be circumcised, they are also misinformed on why they should not. You have some men out there that would be willing to put up with anything to keep a foreskin.
2. Picking one country to support your claim is foolish, cause I can always just pick Saudi Arabia or Israel and say 99% of their culture is cut.

I have never said that a circumcised penis was in any way inadequate.
Family members can do things with their circumcised penis that I can only dream of, like sex 8 times in a row. I circumcised one son. I would have to think there was something wrong with half the people I love, to believe the crap you purport that I do.

You are unwilling to admit that it is not ethical to remove a healthy body part from an unconsenting person. I'll be over for your kidney in an hour.

So you are saying because I am circumcised I can have sex 8 times in a row? LOLOLOL See this is the BS you guys purport and the misinformation about circumcision, that right there could get a ton of guys to go under the knife. So what if you circumcised one son, does he hate you for it? If he does then that's your problem for feeding him or allowing him to be fed BS.

How often do you sleep through someone sticking a knife in your skin?
There you go again, telling me it was sleep.
It's a little far fetched for me to believe, having heard the screams.

And here you go again making assumptions based on the BS you read on the internet. He slept through it. If they carry him into the room sleep, do the operation and he remains sleep (under anesthetic I may add) and when he finally wakes up he was not irritable who are you to say differently?

????? What the hell ?????

Where did that come from?

Out of left field....much like your argument...Now you see how people feel...

Welcome to LPSG. Beats me how can you and DaveyR can so easily dismiss RIC by saying some are, some aren't. Everyone is born with the same equipment. There is really nothing to agree or disagree about when it is obvious that RIC has run its course and should be abolished by now.

If a boy has a circumcision is it skin off your dick?

To me, live and let live means drop the fucking knife and back away from the baby.

This is absolutely the domain of the governent, NOT the family.

The govt says you can't lop off your kid's earlobe, the govt says you can't deny him a needed blood transfusion. The govt says you can't get anywhere near the genitals to so much as do a pin-prick (if it's a girl), and it's just a matter of time before boys' genitals are protected also.

That's mainly because the instances of intervention you so well describe are known to be detrimental. Circumcision isnt. You may find the act unethical but thats your opinion. The end product is just as efficient as the beginning and unless you have peer reviewed studies to refute this claim (which you dont because there arent any) then what really is your argument???

 

[DaveyR]

If you don't like it, read something else. Nobody is forcing you.

I'll read what the hell I like thanks and comment where I think fit. You could cut the hypocrisy too by not replying to my posts if you don't like them. Nobody forced you too

Welcome to LPSG. Beats me how can you and DaveyR can so easily dismiss RIC by saying some are, some aren't. Everyone is born with the same equipment. There is really nothing to agree or disagree about when it is obvious that RIC has run its course and should be abolished by now.

Quite simply I don't feel strongly enough about it to mount a high horse.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Wow... 107 pages!