Pretty sad and pretty much expected.
Republicans are gleeful about all they’ll be able to do to roll back the progress of the past eight years, liberating the country from the cruel oppression of things such as expanded health insurance, regulations on Wall Street and reproductive rights. Liberals are horrified at the same prospect
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The man ran for president for a year and a half, and is surprised that the presidency is such a big job. Meanwhile, his aides were under the impression that the Obama staffers would stick around and be working for them now.
The man ran for president for a year and a half, and is surprised that the presidency is such a big job. Meanwhile, his aides were under the impression that the Obama staffers would stick around and be working for them now.
^ This what you get America when you hire a person with NO experience to run a country. This is appalling, but it shouldn’t be surprising
The Trump administration hasn’t even started yet, and it’s already a fiasco
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The man ran for president for a year and a half, and is surprised that the presidency is such a big job. Meanwhile, his aides were under the impression that the Obama staffers would stick around and be working for them now.
The man ran for president for a year and a half, and is surprised that the presidency is such a big job. Meanwhile, his aides were under the impression that the Obama staffers would stick around and be working for them now.
^ This what you get America when you hire a person with NO experience to run a country. This is appalling, but it shouldn’t be surprising
The Trump administration hasn’t even started yet, and it’s already a fiasco
You need to see a shrink. Those rural areas you bad mouth? 60% gun ownership, murder rates lower than EUROPE.
Ever been to Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, Iowa? They dont even lock their front doors. Ever think that maybe folks in Wyoming look at the 2900 shootings in Chicago this year and say WTF?
I went to 9/11 ground zero guess who had the biggest support for NYC? Oklahoma.
Dude you are crippled inside. Get some help. If not that, travel the country, Rural Americans are good people. Not all but most. They have their beliefs and they get to vote just like you. In fact a bunch voted for a black liberal, twice.
They dont rape, kill, or rob each other at nearly the rate you smug self centered urbanites do. Proven.
I am sure many of them struggle with gay marriage and abortion, and the operative word is struggle. Most arent hateful, they have a belief. It isnt easy to cast aside a belief.
You idealogical progressives are so smug, so self centered its creepy. You fucked up, there are many good well meaning Progressives in this country but you let the Clinton machine blind you. your bad.
I am sure of that. Many seem to be taking a wait-and-see attitude from the grab-them-by-the-pussy president. As if that were not enough he's surrounded by the sleaziest people in the country. How can this end in anything but disaster?
It appears the tens of millions of our "fellow Americans" have no moral outrage or decency left. Outside of lacing his words with profanity you really can't go any lower than Donald Trump. When he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and he wouldn't lose a vote the tragedy is apparently he was right.
You continue to follow polls?..Wernt you saying a few days ago all the polls were wrong and you won't vote anymore ..your one sad duck, you need help..
If there is a silver lining in all of this it will be that Republicans will learn all the wrong lessons from this just the way they learn all the wrong lessons from "the TEA party movement"
They will be all loud and proud in proclaiming that "they were right" when they said to ignore the conclusions in the 2012 "autopsy" that they were right along about "the missing white vote" and ignore that it was a perfect storm that it took to pull this off. None of other 16 Republican candidates would have attracted the numbers of "old angry white guys in rural America" in PA MI and WI because no one else was saying to "build a wall" and lying to them about how he was going to "bring there jobs back" and all the other bullshit that they took as gospel.
On the other side of the ledger don't tell me no matter what his intent was that Comey doing what he did and when he did had NO EFFECT. That the wiki-leaks regardless of where they came from which were ALL only from one side had no effect.
There are more than few "red flags" that they will choose to ignore. Clinto came far closer closer to winning in AZ and Texas that any Republicans would have ever told you even 2 years ago. Joe Arpio LOST in AZ if that is not a "canary in the coal mine" I don't know what is. John Mica R-FL who had been in the house so long that most members like him run un-opposed sometimes literally un-opposed lost. Darrel Issa almost lost. at last count I heard Pat McCory in NC is still loosing. 2 years ago any Republican would tell you those people were shoe-in's to win.
In 4 years Donald Trump IF he is still President, other than a another round of taxes cuts which we be as ineffective as GWB's and not be seen in any way by those older white guys in the rust belt will have not delivered on a single promise. There will be no wall maybe some fencing but no more than what was in the last "imagration bill" Obamacare will be "Trumpcare" and everything that has been blamed on Obamacare for the last 6 years will still be going on. Carrier will be in Mexico not Indiana and Trump will have done nothing because he will find that his "company specific" 35% tarriff" is not how tarriffs work and any tarrifs in general need to make it through both houses and that is just not going to happen.
But Scott Walker will run again trying to sell all that same bullshit one more time
There will be less old angry white guys in the rural parts of the rust belt and the 2020 Census is going to pull at least one electoral vote and house seat from most if not all of the states in the upper midwest.
They will be all loud and proud in proclaiming that "they were right" when they said to ignore the conclusions in the 2012 "autopsy" that they were right along about "the missing white vote" and ignore that it was a perfect storm that it took to pull this off. None of other 16 Republican candidates would have attracted the numbers of "old angry white guys in rural America" in PA MI and WI because no one else was saying to "build a wall" and lying to them about how he was going to "bring there jobs back" and all the other bullshit that they took as gospel.
On the other side of the ledger don't tell me no matter what his intent was that Comey doing what he did and when he did had NO EFFECT. That the wiki-leaks regardless of where they came from which were ALL only from one side had no effect.
There are more than few "red flags" that they will choose to ignore. Clinto came far closer closer to winning in AZ and Texas that any Republicans would have ever told you even 2 years ago. Joe Arpio LOST in AZ if that is not a "canary in the coal mine" I don't know what is. John Mica R-FL who had been in the house so long that most members like him run un-opposed sometimes literally un-opposed lost. Darrel Issa almost lost. at last count I heard Pat McCory in NC is still loosing. 2 years ago any Republican would tell you those people were shoe-in's to win.
In 4 years Donald Trump IF he is still President, other than a another round of taxes cuts which we be as ineffective as GWB's and not be seen in any way by those older white guys in the rust belt will have not delivered on a single promise. There will be no wall maybe some fencing but no more than what was in the last "imagration bill" Obamacare will be "Trumpcare" and everything that has been blamed on Obamacare for the last 6 years will still be going on. Carrier will be in Mexico not Indiana and Trump will have done nothing because he will find that his "company specific" 35% tarriff" is not how tarriffs work and any tarrifs in general need to make it through both houses and that is just not going to happen.
But Scott Walker will run again trying to sell all that same bullshit one more time
There will be less old angry white guys in the rural parts of the rust belt and the 2020 Census is going to pull at least one electoral vote and house seat from most if not all of the states in the upper midwest.
- b.c.,
Another perspective in this op-ed from Jamelle Bouie, slate.com:
There is no such thing as a good Trump voter.
People voted for a racist who promised racist outcomes. They don’t deserve your empathy.
"It’s worth repeating what Trump said throughout the election. His campaign indulged in hateful rhetoric against Hispanics and condemned Muslim Americans with the collective guilt of anyone who would commit terror. It treated black America as a lawless dystopia and spoke of black Americans as dupes and fools.
And to his supporters, Trump promised mass deportations, a ban on Muslim entry to the United States, and strict “law and order” as applied to those black communities. Trump is now president-elect. Judging from his choices for the transition—figures like immigration hardliner Kris Kobach and white nationalist Stephen Bannon—it’s clear he plans to deliver on those promises.
Whether Trump’s election reveals an “inherent malice” in his voters is irrelevant. What is relevant are the practical outcomes of a Trump presidency."
There is no such thing as a good Trump voter.
People voted for a racist who promised racist outcomes. They don’t deserve your empathy.
"It’s worth repeating what Trump said throughout the election. His campaign indulged in hateful rhetoric against Hispanics and condemned Muslim Americans with the collective guilt of anyone who would commit terror. It treated black America as a lawless dystopia and spoke of black Americans as dupes and fools.
And to his supporters, Trump promised mass deportations, a ban on Muslim entry to the United States, and strict “law and order” as applied to those black communities. Trump is now president-elect. Judging from his choices for the transition—figures like immigration hardliner Kris Kobach and white nationalist Stephen Bannon—it’s clear he plans to deliver on those promises.
Whether Trump’s election reveals an “inherent malice” in his voters is irrelevant. What is relevant are the practical outcomes of a Trump presidency."
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No, just the Left died on November 8th. And by the looks of it they're still in denial and bent on strangling themselves while in fits of delusion and tantrum.
Prominent conservative David Brooks writes:
....this year Donald Trump has decimated the codes of basic decency without paying a price. With his constant, flagrant and unapologetic lying, he has shredded the standards of intellectual virtue — the normal respect for facts and truth that makes conversation possible. With his penchant for cruelty, bigotry, narcissism, selfishness and even his primitive primate dominance displays, he has shredded the accepted understandings of personal morality that prevent the strong from preying on the weak.
Most disturbing, all of this has been greeted with moral numbness. The truest thing Trump said all year is that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any votes. We learned this year that millions of Americans are incapable of being morally offended, or of putting virtue above partisanship.
Let’s Not Do This Again
He asks we not do this again and proposes a new party.Most disturbing, all of this has been greeted with moral numbness. The truest thing Trump said all year is that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any votes. We learned this year that millions of Americans are incapable of being morally offended, or of putting virtue above partisanship.
Let’s Not Do This Again
There has to be a compassionate globalist party, one that embraces free trade while looking after those who suffer from trade; that embraces continued skilled immigration while listening to those hurt by immigration; that embraces widening ethnic diversity while understanding that diversity can weaken social trust.
One thing is certain is next year we will be right back with the Trumpsters looking over the wreckage of all his promises now in flames and ashes.
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Ya Think!?!
Just read in a Republican newspaper about how some were denied the right to vote and some by laws that don't exist. Long, long lines at precincts more likely to vote Democratic.
It is all coming to light.
Meanwhile, the thousands of people who changed their vote from Clinton because of the FBI director's involvement in the election, may have second thoughts when the court case against Trump begins in late November over Trump University. The plaintiffs will most likely win. The total lack of character in Trump will finally hit home to many people.
You would think that the Kremlin in Russia drinking champagne over their role in defeating Hillary would sound of alarms.
Not yet! It takes a series of continued similar events that question Trump as candidate and as president when suddenly the media and many people will open their eyes and ears and realize what America has done!
Meanwhile, Hillary will still go down in history has being the first women president selected by popular vote. I read today that her margin of victory once all the votes are tallied will be over one million votes.
Since 1992 the Republicans have won the popular vote only one time out of seven elections. In two elections, a Republican was elected president after losing the popular vote including this year.
The total Democratic votes for candidates in Congress and the President cast on November 8, 2016 exceeded the total Republican votes cast according to one report I read. AT the time, I didn't note the source as I wasn't thinking about needing that source for a post. Many Democrats wonder how that can happen and the Republicans control both houses of Congress and the presidency.
Trump needs to really celebrate the next few days. It could all start going downhill for him and his supporters before the first of December. That is my prediction. Time will tell if I am right!
She won the popular vote by like 2000 votes. Which is a microcosm of the United States population, even far less than the amount of people on welfare in New York City who all certainly voted for Hillary Clinton. The Electoral College exists to give smaller States and more rural areas in equal shot at representation, otherwise politicians would just go where the votes are but the problem is devalues lifestyle and needs of most Americans are not necessarily aligned with those in densely populated low income areas such a Detroit, MI. Camden NJ and Chicago IL and democratically controlled strongholds such as Berkeley CA
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Your numbers are wrong: Hillary Clinton now leads the national popular vote for president by roughly one million votes, and her victory margin is expanding rapidly. That margin could easily double before the end of an arduous process of counting ballots, reviewing results and reconciling numbers for an official total.
https://www.thenation.com/article/h...e-victory-is-unprecedented-and-still-growing/
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Yes, she is more popular than Donald Trump..yes..Thank You..More people voted for her than Donsld Trump, yes..
What would you like to happen next?
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No. I won't be celebrating. My first concern is that the US government not do anything that causes the brittle relationship between nations to become so strained that America ends up in a new war.
My second concern is that millions of Americans won't lose their rights and that the economy doesn't tank leaving millions of people with their lives destroyed.
My third concern perhaps should be my first concern. That is, some leaders in the world are referring to Donald Trump as a fascist. I hope that generalization won't be proved to be true.
My fourth concern goes with my third concern. America is not an evangelical white American Protestant nation. I read today that this definition refers to about 25 % of Americans.
To top all this off, a major concern since the election is the Republican Congressional Agenda which is to the right of Trump. The Republican Congressional leadership kept quiet about what they would do if Republicans controlled everything. Senior citizens who provided Trump with his winning votes may become horrified when Ryan gets his bill to undo Medicare as we know it passed.
If some of those opposed to Trump are rioting in the streets and the army is called in to restore order with fighting between the people in the street and the professional army I won't be celebrating. I'll be devastated.
From what I have read today, Trump is just realizing what job he has interviewed for and has now been hired to do. He is the first person elected president who has no prior experience in military or government.
If the shit hits the fan, I doubt seriously that any of those of us who voted for Clinton will be celebrating. Hillary has her faults for sure. One of them is NOT wanting the house to burn to the ground because she didn't get the lease. I doubt anyone will be any more devastated than she if our nation were to start to crumble.
For all of Donald Trump's faults, he won't be celebrating either if our nation has some sort of collapse and he one of the reasons and he knows it.
There is a major difference between concern and celebration! They are diametrically opposed to each other.
