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Discussion in 'Politics' started by osprey1987, Apr 24, 2011.
When will Americans ever form their own labour party? A new Roosevelt is not around the corner..
FDR....he was the kind of president the U.S. needs now
Considering how increasingly impotent labor unions are in American politics (some of this is their own doing, some of it is political, some of it is structural) I wouldn't hold my breath.
Unless you mean a workers' party in general, in which case I'm not sure what you're getting at. The shape of the American economy has changed a lot since FDR's day.
I think his fundamental values and priorities would still be relevant though. We need someone to sock it to Wall Street in word AND deed, call out corporations for sitting on all of their dough and delaying the recovery, and to make sure the rich and more affluent and big corporations pay more taxes.
In the 2008 campaign, I thought the Dems were running to be that kind of a party. That turned out not to be the case. A lot of the lack of support for the Dems in Congress and the WH is from them not being bold enough in their stands, not because they went off a cliff to the left.
The Canadian federal election is in a few weeks, and there have been interesting developments during this campaign. The New Democratic Party (NDP) is giving the Liberal Party a run for their money as the main opposition to the Conservatives, who will likely get the most seats.
The Cons resulted from the merger of parties that were fiscally conservative (Aliance Party) and socially conservative, and they have been hit by a string scandals this past year.
The Libs are a slightly left-of-center party, but they have been ineffective either to form government or act as a real opposition to the Cons.
The NDP, while likely to come in third, are surging in the polls. Most people wouldn't think about voting for them because their candidate wouldn't stand a chance against the Libs, and there's fear of splitting the left vote and letting a Con in.
What the US needs is an equivalent of the NDP, that has a message that rallies the masses with ideas that can get the US out of its mess fairly, and that can stand up to the attacks from the established parties and hold a mirror to their failed policies.
Being from BC, most people I know wouldn't vote NDP due to the disaster that ensued the last time we voted them in. "Never again no matter what" is the phrase that most people there utter. I was an NDP voter and they totally betrayed our trust. Plus, personally, I just cannot abide Jack Layton. America needs an NDP party like they need a hole in the head.
Just goes to show there's no one to vote for then. Being in QC, anglophones and allophones at least, wouldn't vote for
the Cons because of their rabid social policies, corruption, etc.
the Libs because of their lackluster candidates for PM. Even with Dion, and his riding is in Montreal. The francophones haven't forgotten the sponsorship scandal.
the Bloc because they're separatists.
the Greens because they don't stand a chance.
The NDP is the only one we haven't tried that might have a chance. At this point, it's anyone but Conservative to prevent a Harper majority.
The US considers itself too much of a center-right country to ever continence a real-live, honest-to-gawd Labor/Socialist party. The time to do so would have been the 1960s, back when unions were still a genuine force in politics, especially if the anti-war energies could have been folded into the mix.
A lefty version of the Tea Party would be great, but I just don't see any electorate to support it; if we couldn't marshal the outrage over GWB's reelection in 2004, I can't see it happening now. Probably the only way such a movement could gain traction would be on a micro-local level in the cities and counties. Any attempt to try it on a national (or even state-wide) level would result in a talk-radio reaction of Shock & Awe proportions.