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Interesting commentary from Prager . . . .
Oh puhleeze! Dennis Prager? Are you serious?? That self-serving intellectual featherweight??
At least you're not quoting Christopher Chantrill anymore. I notice he took off his funny tophat too.

Indeed - the values of America have persisted for 234 years without incident, . . .
Oh yes, up until now every day has been sunshine. lollipops, and cotton candy clouds. :rolleyes:

And exactly whose "values" are we talking about? "Family values"? "John Birch values"? "WWJD values"?

Enter the current administration, and by virtue of implementing an unprecedented, radical left wing agenda they are effectively undoing 234 years of American tradition, sacrifice, discipline and history.
I think the economically disadvantaged in this country need to "sacrifice" more, don't you? And you're right, we need some good old-fashioned "discipline", maybe like the fiscal discipline of the last Republican administration. Or maybe some good old-fashioned goosesteppin discipline. Everybody get in line now.

"radical left wing agenda"? :rolleyes: I'm sorry, but your influence peddlers are either completely retarded or insane. And opportunistic liars.

Our ancestors are turning in their graves.
Probably they are, but not for the reasons you think. See above.

If I wanted to live in Europe, I would move to Europe. That is not to say that Europe is not a great place to live. . . .
I hear Socialist Sweden is very nice. The people are really happy there too. (and pretty)

Those citizens that want to live in America, where are they to go now?
We'll give you Alabama. You can all go live in Alabama.

Obama has craved a legacy that will last for centuries. He will go down as the man who destroyed the USA. Indeed he will get his wish.
:rolleyes: That so does not even merit a response.

(Speaking of "Trinity", he/she/it left me all its eyerolleys. Cool, huh? Interesting thread title. Are you trying to carry on the legacy?)
 
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You are so right about Obama. Luckily he will be a one term president and maybe we can get someone a little more to the middle in his place. The last time we had a decent president was Clinton.

Bush never controlled spending, but Obama takes the cake, yours, mine and everyone else's.

It is apparent he supports the New Black Panthers. He called off the dogs who were about to win their case.

Look at what he did to Arizona. Never read the Bill, but thought it was racial profiling. If that were rue, why isn't that in the lawsuit. I'm afraid he won't win that one. Go Arizona.

I can' wait until the elections this year and again in 2012. Hopefully we can take back America.

Interesting commentary from Prager and the timing is appropriate as the Obama Administration continues to push hard to convert the USA into a European socioeconomic state.

http://prageru.com/1.htm

Indeed - the values of America have persisted for 234 years without incident, erecting the nation as the premier economic, political and military force on the globe.

Enter the current administration, and by virtue of implementing an unprecedented, radical left wing agenda they are effectively undoing 234 years of American tradition, sacrifice, discipline and history.

Our ancestors are turning in their graves.

If I wanted to live in Europe, I would move to Europe. That is not to say that Europe is not a great place to live. My preference is simply the America that has been here for the last 234 years.

Those citizens that want to live in America, where are they to go now?

Obama has craved a legacy that will last for centuries. He will go down as the man who destroyed the USA. Indeed he will get his wish.
 
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Look at what he did to Arizona.

Arizona can secede along with Texas, and then see how well they get along with Mexico on their own.
You can go with them too Cowboy :wink:They are a disgrace and a slap in the face to civilization and modernity.

They got over being “forced” to recognize MLK’s birthday as a federal holiday. They can get over not being able to have their own Gestapo too.

 

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I still dont understand the idea that Obama is a radical left?

Does America have its own warped political Spectrum? What would you guys call real Socialists and Communists?
In America, Olympia Snowe, historically a moderate Republican, is now called a "Socialist" by the party faithful. Lindsay Graham, who persecuted Clinton for getting a blowjob, is now called a "Communist" for talking about cooperating with Democrats on environmental issues. That's how completely ignorant and stupid the Right is in this country. It's sad. Both these politicians have now moved back to the right as a consequence of this criticism. That's even sadder. And disturbing.

I remember reading an article which said many Republicans would find Cameron TOO LEFT WING for their tastes. Its shocking. It's almost as if some Americans dont give a shit about their fellow citizens.

Its strange. The idea of helping your country dissappears when it comes to helping citizens to be fed and housed during a recession, but come a war of your own creation....
The right-wing represented by the Republican party doesn't give a shit about this country, or the people who live here. They only exist anymore to serve their own self-interests, those of the uber wealthy, and lick the balls of big corporate business interests, with some peripheral socially conservative issues thrown in to bamboozle their electoral base. Their only agenda at the moment is to block Obama and the Democrats from passing any legislation, even if they actually support it. Their only goal is to make the Democrats look like failures, so they can be reelected.

Great video. I couldn't agree more.
Quelle surprise. :rolleyes:

You're gonna have to wrestle me first, son.
 
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It is apparent he supports the New Black Panthers. He called off the dogs who were about to win their case.
Gee, I wonder where you get your fair and balanced "news" and "information". :rolleyes:

Look at what he did to Arizona. Never read the Bill, but thought it was racial profiling.
What did he 'do' to Arizona? How do you know he never read the bill? Did he tell you that? Seems unlikely.

Go Arizona.
Yeah, it's a fukn football game. Go team, go!

I can' wait until the elections this year and again in 2012. Hopefully we can take back America.
Take it back from whom? Take it back where? Seriously, we'd like to know what your empty slogans mean.
 
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Take it back from whom? Take it back where?

C'mon max you KNOW who we want to take it back from.
The conjunction of a black president and a female speaker of the House — topped off by a wise Latina on the Supreme Court and a powerful gay Congressional committee chairman — would sow fears of disenfranchisement among a dwindling and threatened minority in the country no matter what policies were in play. ..... When you hear demonstrators chant the slogan “Take our country back!,” these are the people they want to take the country back from.

-Frank Rich
 

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C'mon max you KNOW who we want to take it back from.
The conjunction of a black president and a female speaker of the House — topped off by a wise Latina on the Supreme Court and a powerful gay Congressional committee chairman — would sow fears of disenfranchisement among a dwindling and threatened minority in the country no matter what policies were in play. ..... When you hear demonstrators chant the slogan “Take our country back!,” these are the people they want to take the country back from.

-Frank Rich
Oh. So that's the "tradition" and "history" they're talking about - the tradition and history of old white guys in the White House. Now I get it. Thanks Sarge.

From the OP:
Enter the current administration, and by virtue of implementing an unprecedented, radical left wing agenda they are effectively undoing 234 years of American tradition, sacrifice, discipline and history.

Our ancestors are turning in their graves.
> Tradition < (Oh my god, he's a Jew!) :biggrin2:
 
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Lame that a thread about Obama turns into a thread about Bush.

Big surprise on this left-wing loon bin.


Actually, I have a different take... it's lame that you would use this particular video to start this particular thread to insinuate that the man elected by the majority of Americans is somehow unspooling America's legacy.

I will quote you:

Enter the current administration, and by virtue of implementing an unprecedented, radical left wing agenda they are effectively undoing 234 years of American tradition, sacrifice, discipline and history.

Let's take a brief look at this "radical left wing agenda":

Health care is a right, not a privilege. Nothing radical or left wing about that unless you prefer to make a buck in the process of allowing someone to live or maintain a high quality of life. If this goal of ensuring Americans receive health care hadn't been attempted by several Republicans, you might have a leg to stand on. However, Teddy Roosevelt tried it in 1912, Eisenhower tried to address private health insurers in the late 50s, Nixon promised it in 1971, Ford supported National Health Insurance legislation in 1974, and the Bush I administration proposed health care tax credits and purchasing pools and even ran on that reform against Clinton. So... nothing left wing about it, starinvestor.

[For references, see Focus on Health Reform published by The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation in March 2009.]

America should defeat her foes. Nothing radical or left wing about that unless you prefer we actually do reverse 234 years of precedent. Let us not forget that troops were in Afghanistan in the aftermath of 9/11, not as a result of the 2008 elections. Continuing the military initiative of a previous Republican administration...? Hardly left wing, starinvestor.

Corporate polluters should be held accountable. There is not one iota of radicalism in this. Although regulating business seems to be anathema to many Republicans, let's not forget that the Environmental Protection Agency was established by Richard Nixon. The initial charter of the EPA was to consolidate multiple federal programs under the aegis of a single agency, but its first actions were to hold entities accountable. William Ruckelshaus (another stalwart of the Republican party) recounts:
"Shortly after opening EPA's doors, we filed suit against the cities of Detroit, Cleveland, and Atlanta for polluting their rivers with sewage. Similar actions against industry followed." [See the EPA website here.]
The Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act as we know them today? Yup, laws strengthened as part and parcel of the Nixon administration's EPA. So, pursuing BP sounds to me to be a pretty sane and well-established centrist policy, starinvestor.

We shouldn't allow America's banking system to crash. I think you could find several pro-Obama writers on this board who would politely tell you that they thought this was a terrible idea. None the less, there is nothing left wing or radical here either. Even Holman Jenkins (probably the most pro-business, anti-Obama columnists at the Wall Street Journal) pointed out that the bailout was inevitable:
"But let's understand something: The taxpayer already stands behind the banking system, and is on the hook for its losses in one sense or another."[From Obama's Dangerous Bank Bailout, 4 February 2009]

Jenkin's comments were published two weeks after Obama's inaugural... which just sort of points out the obvious: this bailout started under the Bush II administration and was sustained because unraveling it would have created more damage than allowing it to proceed. In the long run, the bailout appears to have succeeded and averted a banking crisis. The last crisis we had like this? Under the Bush I administration: $124.6 B was paid by the US Government under George H.W. Bush to bailout the S&Ls. [See Wikipedia, "Savings and loan crisis"]

I think you're going to have to let this one go unless you would like to impugn two generations of Bush policy-making, starinvestor.

So, what is left? What other so-called "left wing" policies does this President pursue? Trying to establish dialog with America's enemies? Nope, that is called diplomacy. Even as he spoke the words "trust, but verify", Ronald Reagan was pursuing diplomatic approaches to ending the Cold War. Letting your wife pursue a public campaign promoting healthy eating habits for America's kids? Nope, that is called common sense. It's the reason Barbara Bush and Laura Bush campaigned for literacy and Nancy Reagan wanted kids to learn to 'just say no'.

You see... there just isn't a lot of "left-wingness" or "radicalism" for you to hang your hat on, starinvestor. You don't like President Obama and you don't want to brook any room for him to maybe have a good idea or a cogent strategy on anything.

You ridicule this entire board and its members by stating that it's a "left-wing loon bin", so let me challenge that.

Supporting the President is not now, nor has it ever been, a "left-wing" activity. Neither is standing up for the principles of America. And neither is it "left-wing" to call out someone's ill-reasoned, hate-inspired diatribes that apparently are designed to agitate instead of inspire, unite or create. Criticize intelligently all you want, but hate for hate's sake? That's not "right wing" or "left wing"... that's just ignorance, starinvestor.
 

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Oh yes, up until now every day has been sunshine. lollipops, and cotton candy clouds. :rolleyes:

And exactly whose "values" are we talking about? "Family values"? "John Birch values"? "WWJD values"?


Nope - the values that made us perservere through difficult times, survive conflicts, innovate, succeed, prosper and lead.


Not rollover and throw money at every problem. Not encourage people to ask for assistance at every turn. Not run around Europe and Asia apologizing for anything we've done over the last century. Not shoving trillion dollar trash down the throats of a country that doesn't want it.

etc., etc.

I think the economically disadvantaged in this country need to "sacrifice" more, don't you? And you're right, we need some good old-fashioned "discipline", maybe like the fiscal discipline of the last Republican administration. Or maybe some good old-fashioned goosesteppin discipline. Everybody get in line now.


they can be helped along or given a push in the right direction, but to affix them to the nipple just breeds dependence and always will.

"radical left wing agenda"? :rolleyes: I'm sorry, but your influence peddlers are either completely retarded or insane. And opportunistic liars.


No influence peddlers. Just observation of the administration.


We'll give you Alabama. You can all go live in Alabama.


would still be subjected to federal welfare state in Alabama. I appreciate the suggestion though - I hear there's great bass fishing there.:wink:
 

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Interesting commentary from Prager and the timing is appropriate as the Obama Administration continues to push hard to convert the USA into a European socioeconomic state.

http://prageru.com/1.htm

Indeed - the values of America have persisted for 234 years without incident, erecting the nation as the premier economic, political and military force on the globe.

Enter the current administration, and by virtue of implementing an unprecedented, radical left wing agenda they are effectively undoing 234 years of American tradition, sacrifice, discipline and history.

Our ancestors are turning in their graves.

If I wanted to live in Europe, I would move to Europe. That is not to say that Europe is not a great place to live. My preference is simply the America that has been here for the last 234 years.

Those citizens that want to live in America, where are they to go now?

Obama has craved a legacy that will last for centuries. He will go down as the man who destroyed the USA. Indeed he will get his wish.
lmao.......I hope he gets his wish
 

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These are quotes from the transcript of the "lesson" given by Mr. Prager.

"E Pluribus Unum: from many, one; meaning that we don't care where you are from. We don't care about your blood origins, your ethnic origins, your racial
origins, your religious origins. We don't care. From the many, one: you work with us to make America, you are one of us, whatever your color, creed, race or whhave you."

"That's why people who come here assimilate faster than in any other country in the world"

I was thinking about them at lunch to today and wondering how true it is today and if was so in the past or if things had changed. The reason it came to mind is that there is an American Nimitz Class aircraft carrier making a port visit in our town this week. We went to the mall for lunch today and the place is crawling with US sailors on shore leave. Really... they outnumbered the Türks.

It struck me as a bit funny that these guys are in an exotic (to them) place, and they all go to the mall and eat McD's and Burger King. But that's beside the point...

What struck me was that they were mostly walking around in groups segregated by race and ethnic background. The black guys, the whites and the hipanics, mostly stuck to their own groups. Only a few of the younger ones were mixing. The men in their 30's and 40's were strictly in groups of black or white.

The US military is the most integrated organization in the country. It was the first institution to be formally and legally racially integrated. It happened after WW2 I think. Yet in spite of that and in spite of guys like Colin Powell (not to mention the CIC), the racial and ethic groups, as soon as they are free and relaxed and off the ship, separate again.

I make's me wonder how much of the talk about equality, liberty, and togetherness is just talk or an ideal and how much is just smoke and mirrors.

USA is not the only place with those values and in South America, in Brazil, I think you'll find that the ideals of equality and "from many one", are actualized to at least the same degree as in the USA. One could say that about Canada as well.
 

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Obama is a zionist, pro-bankster, pro-insurance company neo-con. He conned everybody. Conservatives can only possibly hate him because he is black or because he ran as a democrat. But he isn't a democrat at all. he has done everything you dipshits wanted, and you still act like he is the worst thing in the world. It's fucking pathetic.

How can it be I hate Obama because he is such an obvious neocon tool... yet you conservative douchebags hate him because... why again? What has he done that was so liberal? Was it his undying commitment to Israel? His pro-insurance company healthcare bill? His voting for the bailouts? His expansion of the war in Afghanistan? His refusla to close gitmo? His refusal to stop the illegal wiretapping?

How is that even liberal? You guys are so full of hate, you don;t even know the difference between a liberal and a conservative anymore. You just attack whatever your master points to and says "sick 'em!"
 

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Nope - the values that made us perservere through difficult times, survive conflicts, innovate, succeed, prosper and lead.

Not rollover and throw money at every problem. Not encourage people to ask for assistance at every turn. Not run around Europe and Asia apologizing for anything we've done over the last century. Not shoving trillion dollar trash down the throats of a country that doesn't want it. etc., etc.

they can be helped along or given a push in the right direction, but to affix them to the nipple just breeds dependence and always will.
You're gonna have to come up with some new material if you expect to engage me in a conversation,
much less a debate. This is tired.

No influence peddlers. Just observation of the administration.
Through what distorted lens? You need some new 'observers', probably new eyeglasses.

would still be subjected to federal welfare state in Alabama. I appreciate the suggestion though - I hear there's great bass fishing there.:wink:
Oh, you're gonna love it there, doll. I've already got Skynyrd working on your new national anthem.
 

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My preference is simply the America that has been here for the last 234 years.

Those citizens that want to live in America, where are they to go now?

1. Do you think that America has remained unchanged for the last 234 years?

2. You and other whiney bitches like you will stay in America, you will not "go" anywhere.

Great prosperity requires great social, economic and political change. Or maybe its social, economic and political change that creates prosperity. I forget.

You can't swim against the tide of change. Sooner or later you will swim with the tide or be drowned by it.