An Irish Curse? I Don't Think So!

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Last weekend, I was at a naked male-only pool party. Such parties are always a large part of my social life in the summertime. I host a few, too, and I find these gatherings very enjoyable. After we got home, my partner told me he had overheard one of the guys at the party talking about my big dick, saying that I had "clearly escaped the Irish Curse." Neither of us had ever heard of an "Irish Curse." A quick google search easily found a large number of references to the Irish Curse meaning that Irish men tend to be have small penises. Who would have thought there was such a notion out there in popular culture? It sure surprised me.

By way of background, I am an American. The U.S., of course, is a land of full of immigrants and descendants of immigrants from all over the world, largely from places in Europe. Many people I meet automatically assume I am of Irish descent because of my red (ginger) hair. I am partly of Irish descent, but mainly of Scottish and English descent, then Irish, and also a little Welsh. So, if there were any truth to this Irish Curse, I am not the purist subject of study. I certainly don't have a little dick. My partner is also partly of Irish decent, and he is big boy, too.

Many Americans -- as well as Canadians, Australians, and New Zealanders -- have a significant amount of Irish ancestry, and I have never personally observed a pattern of small penises in guys with Irish heritage. And, believe me, at this point in life, I have seen thousands of hard dicks belonging to men of all racial and ethnic groups. A number of years ago, I dated a guy from New York whose grandparents were all from Ireland -- so, his bloodline was 100% Irish -- and he had a nice big dick. I have been to Ireland once, on vacation, and while most of the trip was sightseeing oriented, I did go out to the bars in Dublin a couple of the nights and hooked up with three Irish guys, all of whom I recall having normal-sized dicks, i.e., not notably small.

So, based on my own experience, I see absolutely no reason for an alleged Irish Curse. In respect to penis size, the only stereotypes I personally see to have some truth to them is that black men are some more likely to have big dicks (but they don't all, not by a long shot) and Asian guys are more likely to be small (and of course, there are exceptions). Big feet have nothing to do with it, either. There is a great deal of utter bullshit out there regarding the predictors of penis size. I wonder if the Irish Curse is a myth began by the English, since in olden times, the Irish historically have been much maligned by the British. I know there are guys on this site from Ireland, Great Britain, and other parts of the world the Irish have emigrated. I am curious as to others' take on this "Irish Curse" business.
 
I once knew a Fort Lauderdale barmaid who told me that she had spent the previous evening with an Italian guy - her first - and she exclaimed, "It's true what they say - that thing never went down!"

I reminded her that I am 100% Italian and said, yeah, I have that "problem" too.
 
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As per "Shameless" and other anecdotal interactions I've had with Irish folk, I'd come to understand the "Irish Curse" to be a double edged sword, of course referencing a small penis, but also implying unmatched potency and fertility and thus a source of cultural pride in a community big on building families.
Seems to be a pillar of masculine identity, inducing humility along with pride.
 
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I am Irish and I grew up in a town that was predominantly Irish and Italian just outside a city that is predominantly Irish and Italian. Things from growing up there

You date Irish boys... you fuck Italians.

You don't want me to compare you to my last boyfriend, he was Italian.

It doesn't really count as cheating, he was Italian.

No, deteriorate stereotypes aren't 100% there are big Irish and small Italian, but they exist because there is some truth to them in perception if nothing else. In my town most guys were average and within an inch of each other. But, the Irish were mostly low average with some of us below average, the Italian (except for 1) were high average with a bunch above average and a few really big. According to the girls, many of the Italian seemed to last longer.


As for the history of the Curse. The British on average are a bit larger then the Irish and the Scots average larger then that. The Irish generally also average a much smaller girth. During midieval times there was the practice of the Lord having the bride first on her wedding night. Having just lost her virginity to someone on average a little bigger and thicker, and being full of his seed, the bride was expected to now consummate her marriage with her husband. Even if he was of the same size, having been opened up and well lubricated with the Noble's seed, her husband would easily enter her giving her the perception that he was smaller.
 
Interesting reading, thus far, so thanks for the replies!

In the U.S., so many people of European origin are descended from more than one nationality, so pure "subjects of study" regarding any correlation of national origin and penis size are not always so plentiful. Plus, you don't always know someone's ethnic make-up, at least not entirely. Surnames -- if you know what they are -- usually provide some indication of at least part of a person's ancestral heritage, of course, but not all of it, necessarily.

On the subject of Italian men, I once also dated a guy of 100% Italian descent. He was very handsome & had an awesome physique, but his dick was actually on the smaller side -- not freakishly so, but a bit under 6" for sure. I have been with a good number of guys of partial Italian descent, and I do not recall any discernable pattern one way or the other. As I've said, though, they are not pure subjects of study. I have been to Italy several times on vacations, and like my trip to Ireland, mainly focused on seeing the sights, but I have hooked-up with a few Italian men on some of these trips. I recall a couple of the Italian guys being on the large side -- toward 8" or so -- but most being around the 6" average. One was disappointingly quite small. So, again, my own empirical experience supports neither the prevalence of an "Irish Curse" nor an "Italian Blessing." lol.

I have seen a few "national average penis size maps" of Europe and others parts of the world floating around the Internet that someone has constructed. I suspect many of the people on this site have seen them, too. These maps are all over the place in what they indicate, and they identify no data sources whatsoever. As someone trained in research methods and evaluation protocols, such maps lack credibility. I suspect they are intended only to be amusing and are very likely to reflect the personal biases of the creator.

Here at LPSG, of course, we are very interested in penis size, and we "bat around" -- pun intended -- so many topics on our beloved subject of Big Dick. Threads with ethnic group themes are not uncommon, and yes, I've started another one! :) I wonder if there is a natural male instinct to find something to blame (like ethnic heritage) if you have a little dick or, similarly, if you have a big dick, to associate your good fortune with ethnic pride.
 
Again, in 90% of cases the differences are small.

My wife knows this man I'll call Adam. She knows she's had men whose penis were longer then Adam's. But that she measured but she knew they were a little longer. But Adam has the thickest cock she ever had, so she always thought of him as being the biggest. And by volume Adam probably is, but my wife's friends always say that these 2 guys who were longer were clearly bigger then Adam.

Her friends only saw these guys, my wife had felt them. They had different perspectives.



I'm sure my perspective of penis size in my town was affected by how the Curse and the blessing were frequently referenced, as well as by my personal experiences as one of the smaller (maybe smallest) cursed Irish descendent.
 
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I think statistically there is nothing to this. All North West Europeans DNA are mostly the same. Irish people are not a race. Most people DNA come from the Norman's. Unless our diet of potatoes and too much alcohol has shrunk the penis over generations I don't think it is true.

I have herd the opposite about Irish guys too. I remember being in a sauna here in Dublin and guy who had recently moved here was saying we are all hung huge.... it is a small sample size.
 
No, what you are referring to is "whiskey dick".
Yes, I hear guys use the term "whiskey dick" all the time. It's a an expression of speech, of course. I don't think whiskey causes erection failure more than any other alcoholic drink. It can be a result of being drunk on anything. Maybe the connection is that -- whether there is any truth to it or not -- the Irish have a stereotype as heavy drinkers, including whiskey as it is popular with them. I am a whiskey fan myself.
 
I think statistically there is nothing to this. All North West Europeans DNA are mostly the same. Irish people are not a race. Most people DNA come from the Norman's. Unless our diet of potatoes and too much alcohol has shrunk the penis over generations I don't think it is true.

I have herd the opposite about Irish guys too. I remember being in a sauna here in Dublin and guy who had recently moved here was saying we are all hung huge.... it is a small sample size.

I think you're right. I've seen statistical data that appears creditable (at least on the surface) consistently showing that black men of African origin, on an average figure, have a slightly longer erect penis than other races, followed closely by men of European origin, with men of eastern Asian origin having the smallest average erect penis size. (As I mentioned in my original post, my own observations are in line with this.) However, as you say, the Irish are not a race. Irish men belong to the "white/not of Hispanic origin" group. I don't think they are distinguishable in this regard to any real data.
 
Yes, I hear guys use the term "whiskey dick" all the time. It's a an expression of speech, of course. I don't think whiskey causes erection failure more than any other alcoholic drink. It can be a result of being drunk on anything. Maybe the connection is that -- whether there is any truth to it or not -- the Irish have a stereotype as heavy drinkers, including whiskey as it is popular with them. I am a whiskey fan myself.
"Whiskey dick" does not always mean it's whisky related. It could refer to drinking so much that it renders a soft dick because you're too drunk.
 
OK so here's my 2 cents. I'm an English lad living in Dublin for close to a decade. I've been with Irish men alot lately and dicks are like snowflakes - no 2 are the same - the same goes for Irish ones. I've had big, average and small. Some are cut, most are uncut but by jesus they all taste great.

I basically had an open house for dick sucking when I was single and some days I've had 3 or 4 men round one after another. Irish men are open minded and very horny. Think it's all the catholic guilt that represses them enough to seek me out.
Anyway I find that most Irish men have thicker, more meaty ones. The ones where you can feel their helmets blocking the back of your throat.
All in all, a delight and obviously St Patrick didn't chase all the snakes out of Ireland.
 
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