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I have really appreciated your comments to this and I have learned a lot.
I now believe that the real David was somewhere past 14 but not yet 18. But the real guy that posed for this statue was probably somewhere between ages 16 and 21. Most probably either 18 or 19 or he looked those ages. [/b][/quote]
Thanks! As for your last comments, I can certainly agree with that.
If anyone is at all interested in an excellent account of homosexuality in 15th/16th century Florence, there is a book called
Forbidden Friendships by Michael Rocke and it is excellent, though it is a 'non-fiction' history book based upon actual documentary research (my kind of book!

. It is a goldmine of factual information about homosexual issues at that time period. Oddly enough, 15th century Florence had a reputation not unlike late 20th century San Francisco as a 'gay mecca'.
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So that brings us to the Michelangelo's statue of David which of course comes from Michelangelo's mind. David himself I'm sure didn't shave. But this is not the historic David, but Michaelangelo's concept of David which is Renaissance.
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There is one detail that makes it obvious that Michelangelo deviated from history in order to present his ideal: the penis on the statue of David is uncircumcised!
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Indeed. I'd never thought of that, but you are undoubtably correct here. 'Historical' David could be expected to be circumcised - unless we have any Hebrew scholars here to correct us?