Anita is Dunn

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  1. faceking

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    As the ever neutral David Gergen has HIGHLY advised the current administration to not war against the/any media...

    Anita Clue... errr Anita Done is Dunn.

    White House boasts: We 'control' news media

    This gal is gaffing at a Joe Biden-like speed. Fox is not a news outlet, is like saying ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and NPR are "neutral".

    I will commend the administration for booting her quick stylee when they do, but lambast the decision to pick her, and let her run for this long.

    When your approval ratings starts to run south of fitty within 9 months, your majority Speaker is now even futher south (read sfgate.com) in her own ultra-liberal die-hard constituency, and you're ramming unfavorable policies in continual rush jobs (we're keeping score on the "stimulus package").

    ...

    ... the last thing you want to do is alienate a news outlet that is head-shoulders above the HIGHEST VIEWED outlet, but shockingly has 61% viewership upon moderate liberals. (yes that stat is being thrown around, and I'm sure it's actually lower, but anything about 33% for this bozo should be a warning).

    I was shocked at that number, but seeing how every libtard on LPSG is the best Faux News satirical dimwit... I see wherein the viewership lies, and lambasting thereof lies. I've never seen more analysis on Beck, O'Rielly, and all those FUCKING HOT SMART BLONDES (therein the jealousy) than I have amongst angry liberals.
     
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    So Beck & Co. sat on this for 9 months...why? Gestation? :biggrin1:
     
  3. D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse

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    Ah. Thanks for yet another link to WorldNetDaily, face.

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  4. faceking

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    Fucking chill... I have very little clue on World Net Daily... I only see the video they posted, that THEY DID NOT FILM and the recent fervor around the anti-Fox attack (and a poor choice, IMHO) she fucking spews out like a faceking money shot.

    Shall I pull out every mindless blog you've quoted... let me reserve 4 hours and an exemption on the "20 second search" rule. By your well (and poor use of your own time) research post on WND... I'm guessing they are conservative/right?



     
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    I think it a bit foolish for a press secretary, or a president, to directly provoke and antagonize a media outlet as influential as Fox (not that Fox would ever return the courtesy). That's a great way to lose intiative and the media always gets the last word.
     
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    But we are referring to a "news" organization that represents a political party that is currently eating its own. Sure they may get the last word, but it's usually one of the following: Socialist, Fascist, Communist, Muslim, Liar or Terrorist. They've been trying this for 9 months now, and members of their own party (whatever is left of them) are even sick of it.

    Sadly the fringe on either side, with their need to play obstructionist instead of working together, don't even know they're falling for one of the oldest games in the book. The Ol' "Rope-A-Dope". Give a fool enough string and they'll eventually hang themselves. Eventually, every phony grassroots movement is exposed to being another corporately owned entity pretending to be for the people. Every day, another politician who blocks Health Care (on either side) says something increasingly stupid. More and more, we see the ugly, yet truthful sides of our political dissenters and their comments are not going to be forgotten by anyone. And then there's the Birthers... who even make GWB look like a Rhodes Scholar with their faulty interpretations of the Constitution. :rolleyes:

    Let 'em keep yapping... they're only hurting themselves at this point.
     
  7. D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse

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    I have no problem with this administration shutting out Fox News.

    We all remember Glenn Beck pushing the story that Obama is a "racist":

    YouTube - Glenn Beck on Barack Obama: "This guy is, I believe, a racist" [FOX News]

    Night after night, Sean Hannity loved to claim that Sotomayor, Obama's Supreme Court nominee, was a "reverse racist".


    We all clearly remember Fox News persistently pushing - and catering to - the "Birther" issue:

    YouTube - BAAAMM!!?Fox News Covers Obama's Citizenship and Birth Certificate Issue


    Fox gave a good deal of coverage to claims that Obama was a muslim, educated in a radical madrasa, treating it as a valid news story.

    Fox News not only covered, but actively helped organize and promote the various Tea Parties (LPSG has many threads and posts attesting to this).

    YouTube - Biased FOX News promotes Tea Parties


    If I were Barack Obama, I'd shut out Fox News too.



    We all recognize Fox News as being sympathetic to a (almost an arm of the) right-wing agenda, just as cable's MSNBC is sympathetic to the left.
     
  8. Qua

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    Mindlessly attacking a weaker enemy is a very foolish waste of resources in political terms. It makes the administration look weak and remarkably thin-skinned. Remember how foolish Clinton looked for his "right wing conspiracy" bullshit? In comparison, Rove & co's masterful managing of Bush's opponents makes Obama's press corps look amateur.

    They've won the White House, and now they're acting like opposition should not be happening, and opposition can't be coming from a legitimate source. It looks pathetic.
     
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    In most instances I would agree here, however, we are talking (again) about Faux News. Considering the amount of noise they've made about consistently being the #1 Cable News Network, it's kinda hard for them to play the victor and the victim at the same time.

    The existence of opposition is not the issue... It's all about what they're saying. Many people who have logical & reasonable critiques regarding our current administration have been muted out by the obsessive, loud bantering coming from the lunatic fringe. Instead of being the voice of reason by calling out some of the birthers, teabaggers and phony grassroots activists for their actions, Faux News was more than willing to embrace & give them the stage simply because they were more concerned about the amount of people voicing opposition instead of what was coming out of their mouths.

    I mean, if MSNBC can look past their political biases and criticize their own for their issues, why couldn't Faux? They talk a big game like they are some kind of major force that can bring down government, so let them deal with the attacks on the same level.
     
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    This video makes the case that Fox News, time after time, is a "news" organization on par with conservative right-wing radio. That the agendas of conservative radio and Fox News intersect, meld, and blur. Not only do the opinion people (Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly) slander and smear, this attack ethic occasionally informs the straight-up "legitimate" news departments.


    YouTube - Fox News: A 24/7 Political Operation



    There are plenty of legitimate new organizations out there (what Fox sneering calls the "mainstream media"). There are a boatload of political Sunday morning shows. Obama is not obliged to do interviews with a cable network that routinely smears him and actively wishes to take him down.
     
  11. Qua

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    Willtom, instead of letting other people and links talk for you, kindly say something original or shut up.


    Vinyl, yeah I see what you're saying. However, even the #1 cable news network is a far far weaker political opponent than the White House.

    Fox (and please, dispense with the Faux bullshit, it's childish) is latching on to any and all opponents of Obama that it can to make it seem like it is interested in all opponents' point of view. Consolidating opposition, regardless of its stripe, in the hope that this hodgepodge coalition of Obama opponents has enough ideological commonality to band together long enough to win an election for Murdoch's cronies. Of course they're giving credence to birthers and other idiots just to keep them on board with the agenda. The hope is that mainstream conservatives such as myself will stick with those morons long enough to give the Republicans a relative victory in 2010.

    Regardless, the Obama administration needs to step up its class or else lose the mild support advocates of sense and class such as myself give them, or else I will throw my support fully behind the Rs in 2010. I voted for Obama believing he and his staff would be Democrats above idiotic spending policies and political tactics. I've been disappointed at every turn. And I wasn't looking for it either, I had some faith in the guy.

    3rd party 2012!
     
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    I don't understand what you mean by this, Qua.

    I don't perceive Fox News as weak at all. If faceking's stats are correct, Fox News attract a formidable audience share.

    What I think is questionable is for Obama, or his spokespeople, to get drawn into some kind of continual tit-for-tat mudslinging contest with experienced masters of slime who are only too eager to continue the mudfest.
     
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    I have to disagree with you on the assessment of Fox's mojo here. While there are

    Darn it... you don't want me to have ANY fun! :biggrin1:
    But I get what you're saying. Cheesy attack refrained... for now.

    I agree with you here. Bottom line, people can tell that you're not part of the fringe and it's really refreshing to see that. I would rather read what you say on certain subject matters than most conservatives on television. We should be focus more on the quality of the statements being made than the quantity of them. IMO, Fox has been really pandering to the lowest common denominator just to portray an image of opposition. But at the same time it has little to no credible or honest substance to it geared to help the nation. Like you said (and I also agree with you here too), they just want to win back seats in 2010.

    Even if my philosophies lean to the left, I actually like to read comments from other people with different ideologies that have some level of logical validity to them. I'm not against voting outside of my political affiliation if I feel the other person is better for the job. But I think the conservative base and Fox News would benefit more if they pandered to the lunatics less.

    Really? That's puzzling to me, because during the previous administration we heard many people in Congress complain about the "liberal media" and it still happens today.

    I think you and I have different perceptions of who has the "power" in today's society. Although people with the high authoritative titles are perceived to have all the keys, it's really the ones that control the images that control the culture. News outlets like Fox reach out to more people than the White House could ever do alone. The right people in the media, asking the right questions, can literally take any one person apart if they wanted to. It may not be as quick and responsive as someone with the authority, but over time if it builds enough momentum it becomes a problem that has to be dealt with. News organizations have more influence than most people are willing to admit because we have to turn to them to find out what's happening in the White House.

    Well, the spending is an issue that everyone feels to some degree because we all have our fears regarding the Economy. But for the most part, the current administration has been adamant to let people hang themselves with their own comments. I'm more concerned about the content of the remark, not the action itself. It's not as if what people in the White House said about Fox News is so detrimental to their image that it would force them to lose ratings. Was it a cheap shot? Of course it was... However, even the most diplomatic of people will occasionally engage in making an off-color remark. It's still not enough for me to vote against them in 2012 if no other viable option comes about.

    That would be interesting to see... although I do hope it's really a new party with original ideals instead of regurgitated fringe beliefs disguised under a new label.

    We may not agree on certain things, but I'm glad that you're one of the thinkers on this board.
     
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    The fuss about Anita is a tempest in a tea pot. Besides she's married to Obama's personal attorney, so she's not going anywhere, and she is only the interim WH Communications Director.

    The Dems should take a page out of the Republican playbook, and simply purchase a dissenting interest in News Corp. The Right has been buying up "the media" for years.

    To wit, in 1967 83% of all American papers were family owned* (per E. Yamashita), which did not make them necessarily liberal, but most were at least centrist. Of the current 1500 newspapers, 200 are family owned, about 13%, the rest are corporate owned. That's a complete inversion over the last 40 years, most of it coming in the last twenty after Reagan rescinded the old FCC 7 and 7 rule.

    I think it's good for the Admin to take on Fox. Too often the libs play too soft. However, the best way to do this would be to show how inaccurate Fox is, rather than railing against them.

    Fox's paranoid voice, modeled on the mind of Reagan strategist Roger Ailes**, pretends to simplify today's overload of information, by assigning blame to either their definition of the "godless" or the government, even if their party is running it. Fox needs to be regularly discredited, then people will simply stop listening.

    **Thomas Frank: From John Birchers to Birthers - WSJ.com
     
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    damn, you guys really get "into" this shit!!! Go Beck!!! he has a much bigger dick than BO!!.
     
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    Ive heard a lot of arguments about the Obama vs Fox News debaucle.

    First off, Fox news is a business. Therefore they have every right to cover what news they choose. Just because the stories they choose go against the grain of the majority of news outlets and the administration does not negate the news value of the stories.

    Secondly, on another site I saw Obama-upporters and people with anti-Fox sentiment claim that Fox was the only major new organization to cover the Van Jones and ACORN stories to the extent they were. Essentially they are accusing Fox of Making news or at least using news to acheive an agenda. While they may have an agenda I refer you back to my first point, but as far as making news, thats just opposing bias. Investigative reporting is part of any news gathering endeavor. As long as the news is factual, any slant or agenda can be filtered out by the viewer/listener. Fox News is one of a few outlets and the only major news outlet that openly offers news about the negative reception of Obama, his administration, and his policies. After all , since Fox News is the ONLY major news station to air stories which do not capture Obama's best side, they have a LOT of work to make sure that relevant news does actually get coverage.

    Some have argued that without Fox News, the Van Jones and ACORN stories would never have reached the level where action or reaction was required. To that I say that, if you really dont care about who is runing our country then what is the point of any argument you make in support of Obama? Also, When there is a rotten vegetable in the pantry, you dont just ignore it and close the door, you deal with it, usually by throwing it out. Van Jones was just one such rotten vegetable. If you think President Obama has "thrown Fox News out", how is it that Fox News remains such a threat to him? The truth is Obama has chosen instead to irgnore his "rotten vegetable" and to tell his "friends" to ignore the smell. To carry the methaphor further, Fox News is really fanning the rot in hopes that concerned constituents will do something about it or demand that those with authority do so. I for one prefer a pantry devoid of rotten things rather than full of them with compensating deodorizers.

    This whole thing is an embarassment of Obama, for trying to silence dissent by trying to illegitimize a geniune source of news; of the much of the media, for having lost so much journalistic integrity as to allow one of their own to come under attack while they participate in similar but oppositely slanted reporting; and of America in general, for having the whole world watch as our most public figures make utter fools of themselves.
     
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