Another marijuana thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by lucky8, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. lucky8

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    Breckenridge Votes Overwhelmingly To Legalize Marijuana

    Marijuana is now legal for recreational possession and use in Breckenridge, CO for adults 21 and over, and there's nothing you can do about it :wink:. I think I'm going to move there after I graduate in December...a huge victory for us rational folk. Can I get an amen?
     
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    Awesome. Good news, indeed. Now let's see how the federal government deals with this.
     
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    I think I might have to join you lucky8
     
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    We've had it reduced to a $100 fine here, which was a great first step.

    It just needs to be legal already, the war on drugs is a joke. Anyone for it still probably watches Reefer Madness and hides under their bed.
     
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    Chomsky refers to it as The War on Certain Drugs, which cracks me up, because it so niftily encapsulates the nature of the thing.
     
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    That is true, as Adderall, Ambien and many others are dispensed so freely and they are far more dangerous than marijuana.

    Keeping drugs illegal and jailing people for possession doesn't help anything. However I can't ever see things like Meth and Heroin being sold in stores. The harder drugs shouldn't result in years in prison for having them however, as it solves nothing.
     
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    My position, admittedly extreme (and therefore unlikely of actually being implemented) would be a complete end to all prohibitionism.

    This is an excellent turn of events.
     
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    Nothing? The county and the state and the federal government can still bust you unless you have medical clearance. It doesn't mean much.
     
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    Didn't the federal government basically say they weren't going after anyone for this anymore? Or was that just Cali?
     
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    Only medical marijuana. Everyone else is still prosecutable.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the White House said it is now a state issue and the feds will not pursue state to state dispensaries. While yes, the state still has the right to arrest anyone who possesses it, let's be honest here...how many people actually get arrested for possession by state law enforecment? I'd say probably around 90% of marijuana arrests are done by city police, if it's not illegal in the city, you're chances of actually being arrested for possession are now extremely low in breckenridge (as if they already weren't lol). And I really don't see the feds pursing small time smokers whatsoever...they don't now, so why would they ever start? The important thing here is that the people voted for it to pass, and the vote is being honored (at least at city level); now, that's my kind of democracy...I wonder if they still need a tax stamp for that grass to be considered legal?
     
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    Many police forces are turning away from it, as they're seeing it's a waste of money.

    Luckily here it's decriminalized for under an ounce and is only a fine.
     
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    Amen.

    I didn't think that times were bad enough that the alcohol and tobacco industries would have to cut back on funding their lobbyists.
     
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    Operative word being dispensaries. If you're growing in your closet or yard or appear to have intent to distribute, you're just as fucked as you used to be. If the town honors the law then no, the local police should leave you alone. The county and state police are an entirely different matter as are the Feds. All of them would be happy to prosecute you if you do not have valid medical need documentation.
     
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    A town which is listed as 3,690 acres or 5.5 square miles, and with a population composed of less than 4000 permanent (3406 according to their data listing): Town of Breckenridge : Living in Breckenridge

    In actuality, marijuana arrests are approaching 900,000 per year: Annual Marijuana Arrests in the US - NORML Do a google search on 'annual arrests marijuana' to get more data on this.

    Whereas Breckenridge officers will not be arresting people, just exit the scenic 5.5 square miles and all bets are off. State and County can still have their way with you.

    And as statistics show, many are not turning away from it. It may be okay in certain locations; but, there are places which will gladly haul people in. It's a great way to make an arrest for speeding or driving with a dangling license plate or some other minor infraction into something more.
     
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    Hooray weed!
    And I'm not even a smoker...
     
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    I'm curious. How can a municipal government in effect overrule state or federal law?
     
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    It can't. There are many instances of such local laws (e.g. city ordinance), the terms of which are in conflict with state or federal law. The local law doesn't overrule the others (in fact, if anything, it's the opposite). But within the confines of the locality, it is often the case that there is no state or federal enforcement of the state or federal law, such that by enforcement of the local law by the local authorities, it wins the day.
     
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    Because local town boards usually don't consult anyone on anything they do. A simple call to the town attorney would usually result in a response along the lines of, "Ummmmm.... you can't do that." So rather than risk that sort of thing, town boards just pass whatever pleases them. Then they get sued when it turns out they've violated someone's civil rights or done something illegal and the town then pays out of their own pocket to compensate the complainant. It's an old and noble system in the US. Even states participate in this. It's illegal for women to wear patent leather shoes on Sunday in Ohio. Now if a woman was to be busted for this she'd appeal and win and then sue the shit out of Ohio which would then spend tax payer money defending themselves, lose, and pay anyway. See? All very simple.
     
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