D_Poppy_Cocque
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drkinsey said:Yes, it's safe. hCG is classified as a controllled substance in most states. You can get a script from an anti-aging doctor.
Sounds great. And just how do you go about asking for it?
drkinsey said:Yes, it's safe. hCG is classified as a controllled substance in most states. You can get a script from an anti-aging doctor.
Ruger said:There is some decent information here and some inaccurate. Hcg works very well to restore testosterone and sperm levels in HYPOGONADAL men. Also, if there is a pituitary abnormality in the case of not enough LH being secreted to stimulate the testes to produce testosterone. So, yes, hcg will increase, or restore, testicular size back to normal...not make normal balls huge. Unfortunately, hcg should only be used short term. Once used to restore normal testicular function, treatment is ceased. If normal function is not restored then testosterone therapy is needed.
The best, easiest and safest way to secure hcg or testosterone is to go to an endocrinologist (or a general Dr., who can order the test but might not) and have bloodwork done for testosterone, LH, FSH and TSH. If these levels are low, which is the case very often these days, bingo...scripto and Dr. supervision. The only way to go, I think. Plus, testosterone and hcg are one of the most counterfieted drugs on the black market these days. If your levels are low and you get treatment...wow, talk about feeling 18 again! Not just sex drive but brain function, memory, mood, etc.
Thanks
DC_DEEP said:self-prescribing any hormone of any kind, encouraging others to casually use a hormone of any kind, is just dangerous. hormones are NOT recreational drugs.
donkeyboy9 said:And I thought jelquing was thought by some to be reckless! I need larger balls about as much as a bull does... already they try to sneak down and out of the left leg of my shorts. Now if further controlled testing shows I could hit my ultimate goal of having a ten inch cock, 8 inches in girth... I might look a bit more closely at the substance!:wink:
Just a suggestion, but if you ever do decide to try it, please do yourself a (health-preserving) favor - find a library with information on "Human Endocrinology" and know what you are dealing with, first.donkeyboy9 said:And I thought jelquing was thought by some to be reckless! I need larger balls about as much as a bull does... already they try to sneak down and out of the left leg of my shorts. Now if further controlled testing shows I could hit my ultimate goal of having a ten inch cock, 8 inches in girth... I might look a bit more closely at the substance!:wink:
DC_DEEP said:Just a suggestion, but if you ever do decide to try it, please do yourself a (health-preserving) favor - find a library with information on "Human Endocrinology" and know what you are dealing with, first.
Well, Ruger, as you and baseball and I have been trying to get across to these guys, a reputable doctor would most likely NOT prescribe hormones to a perfectly healthy man; any "doctor" who would prescribe hormones to a perfectly healthy man has questionable motives for doing so; hormones that can be obtained without a reputable doctor's prescription may or may not contain what they claim to be, and could in fact be fatal imitations.Ruger said:Like I said. It's best used for hypogonadal men, a serious medical condition. Dr. supervision should be used. Otherwise, I wouldn't suggest anyone do it.
Funny you should mention that, I had just posted comments in another thread about the dangers of volatile/soluble/bioavailable plasticizers. By any chance, did your doctor mention if any of those contaminants were phthalates or terephthalates?Ruger said:DC_DEEP...yup, I agree with you 100%.<...>
Some of these environmental contaminants have been found in many plastics, espcially the plastic found in food containers. When heated (as in the microwave) these compounds are released into the food, eaten and act like estrogen in the body (almost like a birth control pill).
Some of us do, yes, actually. I do, at any rate. Otherwise, I would not be so adamant in some threads that my friends here on the board not take a cavalier attitude toward their health.<...>
Just fyi for anyone who cares.
Ruger said:DC_DEEP...yup, I agree with you 100%.
I do think, though, if someone believes that they might have a problem to go to a Dr. and have the above tests that I mentioned done. I have investigated hypogonadism and pituitary abnormalities quite a bit lately and they are becoming more pronounced and at a younger age. Most researchers believe it to be caused by an increase in environmental contaminants that mimic the hormone estrogen. Estrogen in men is bad, folks; and it causes a decrease in testicular funtion. Some of these environmental contaminants have been found in many plastics, espcially the plastic found in food containers. When heated (as in the microwave) these compounds are released into the food, eaten and act like estrogen in the body (almost like a birth control pill). I am living proof. My blood results showed a low testoserone level and an abnormally high estrogen level at age 32. The estrogen was not estrogen like our bodies produce but a similar structure that was acting like estrogen in the body. The Dr. discovered this too late and it permantly damamged (suppressed) my pituitary so it wouldn't produce LH...which tells the testies to produce testosterone. Hcg did make my testes produce testosterone (because it mimicks LH) but I couldn't stay on hcg long term. So, I now have to inject testosterone for the rest of my life.
Just fyi for anyone who cares.
Right! Can you imagine some idiot "webdoctor" or even worse, someone's coach or trainer encouraging them to take extra shots of insulin to decrease body fat percentages? Or someone being ignorant enough to take advice like that?baseball99 said:Hormones are regulated so tghtly in your body its almost impossible to replicate it. BhCG and testosterone are not hormones to play around with. Even long term systemic steroids can destroy your adrenal glands.....it just amazes me how the "more is better" attitude is thrown around by random people claiming to have medical knowledge......youre lucky you have a good doctor.....best of luck
justanotherguy said:it works. firsthand experience. 500iu's 2x per week keeps you full..... this only works i think if your testicles are atrophied
Ruger said:DC_DEEP...yup, I agree with you 100%.
I do think, though, if someone believes that they might have a problem to go to a Dr. and have the above tests that I mentioned done. I have investigated hypogonadism and pituitary abnormalities quite a bit lately and they are becoming more pronounced and at a younger age. Most researchers believe it to be caused by an increase in environmental contaminants that mimic the hormone estrogen. Estrogen in men is bad, folks; and it causes a decrease in testicular funtion. Some of these environmental contaminants have been found in many plastics, espcially the plastic found in food containers. When heated (as in the microwave) these compounds are released into the food, eaten and act like estrogen in the body (almost like a birth control pill). I am living proof. My blood results showed a low testoserone level and an abnormally high estrogen level at age 32. The estrogen was not estrogen like our bodies produce but a similar structure that was acting like estrogen in the body. The Dr. discovered this too late and it permantly damamged (suppressed) my pituitary so it wouldn't produce LH...which tells the testies to produce testosterone. Hcg did make my testes produce testosterone (because it mimicks LH) but I couldn't stay on hcg long term. So, I now have to inject testosterone for the rest of my life.
Just fyi for anyone who careRuger said:Sorry to hear that. What are your T and estrogen levels? Did they also measue estradiol (E2)? The optimal level of E2 is between 10 and 30 pg/mL. This is much lower than the so called reference ranges published by labs (less than 55 pg/mL)
drkinsey said:Sorry to hear that. What are your T and estrogen levels? Did they also measue estradiol (E2)? The optimal level of E2 is between 10 and 30 pg/mL. This is much lower than the so called reference ranges published by labs (less than 55 pg/mL)