Phil, is that the kind of shit you would say if you were in ancient mesopotamia and a local stone mason told you the earth was round, or that Earth actually went around the Sun? You said yourself you believe there is life out there, so if there is, do you really think they are as lazy, self centered, and money hungry as we are? Were all past civilizations on Earth based upon money and power? Is that how the native americans lived? Why do you think any intelligent civilization out there would be anything like us? I guess you haven't read about Planet Serpo, they didn't even have money on their planet...
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Skull- sorry to be tardy in my reply... I missed your post.
The Ancient Greeks determined not only that the earth was round, but fairly accurately calculated its circumference... and they did so simply by paying close attention and verifying their facts.
As to the mistake of thinking the sun went around the earth... that was actually an understandable mistake. The only two spherical celestial objects that could be observed with the naked eye, the Sun and the Moon... DO NOT VISIBLY ROTATE.
IF the moon had not been tidally locked and always shown the exact same face to the earth... if the moon had visibly rotated... then the Idea of the earth rotating might have occured to them.
As to being as lazy and money hungry as we are...
Evolution says, yes... they will be precisely as lazy and money hungry as we are. If they have a technological society, then the aliens who create that technology will realize that their labor is more valuable to that society than the alien who works as the postman.
Just a evolving species compete both within their own species , and with other species for resources, for food and for survival... any space aliens would have had to run the exact same gauntlet as we have to arrive at a technological intelligence.
I am not saying they would not be willing to come here... I am saying that, no matter how their economy is arranged... doing so would be staggeringly expensive.
They would need a compelling purpose to come here.... to be able to convince the majority of their space aliens that it was worth the effort.
It is impossible to believe that such an intelligence would come all that way and NOT make themselves known.
There is simply no feasible explanation for an intelligent alien culture to behave in the manner UFO freaks claim.
If they were coming to conquer us... any people who can travel between stars would not have the slightest difficulty knocking us aside.
If they are not trying to Take the earth... then what possible thing could we have to offer them?
Contact.... that's what.
As to native Americans... I have a lot of in depth knowledge on that matter... I can tell you that the modern mythology of the nobel savage living in harmony with nature is just that... Myth.
In point of fact, the Native Americans were warlike and avaricious. They conducted wars of acquisition and genocide upon other tribes and even between clans of the same tribe. And were doing so for a LONG time before westerners arrived.
The hunter gatherers had already knocked off every large land animal on the continent... and the only reason the buffalo were so plentiful was that , prior to the arrival of the horse, there was no way that a band of natives could SURVIE on the open prairie... they lived around the edges of the prairie, hoping the buffalo would come within stampeding off a cliff range.
The advent of the horse enabled them to sweep across the prairies... and they were doing a fine job of decimating the buffalo herds, all on their own, before White encroachment sped the process up.
The Anasazi famously burnt up all the forests within hiking distance of their villages... and then had to abandon the villages for a place closer to the forest they were stripping.
But even more telling... the Anasazi's deforestation CHANGED the entire weather pattern in their lands...resulting in the desert we see now, and their own demise as a culture.
Do not forget that the avaricious, despotic, gold hungry empires of the Inca, Aztec, Maya, and Olmec were ALSO native Americans.
And even everybody's favorite... the be-feathered plains indians, had a cutture, at the end, entirely founded on the wealth of horse ownership.
Cheifs were little more than men who owned large herd of horses... which they "leant out" to less fortunate tribe member... in exchange for political and council loyalties and influence.
Native Americans were as greedy as a nomadic stone age culture CAN be.
And Native Americans did as much damage to the environment as their technology allowed.
Darwin rules. Space Aliens, if they are out there, had to evolve... Just like us. No matter what they look like...they will be more like us than you imagine.
