Are all Americans fat?

[B_Nick8]

Will and Grace reruns?!!! No. I watch NOAH'S ARC first season reruns. THAT is it.

And here I was fixin' to run out ter git you that Best of...Glenn Beck DvD you've been squalling about all day, makin' my life a livin' hell.

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I love my conservative friends in the flyover states, but, really, there are only so many calories one can burn catcalling and shouting at Sarah Palin rallies and tea parties. Yelling out "Obama is a SOCIALIST!" will burn maybe 10 or 15 calories, tops. And listening to Rush Limbaugh while cracking open a beer does not tend to raise the metabolism, as does cardio, for periods long enough to sustain a healthy heart.

Fixed that for ya, Will.

 

[D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse]

Nick8: Speaking about "Socialist Obama", Trinity is up to her cracker act bemoaning the lack of "shovel-ready jobs" in the state's stimulus packages on another thread.

The fact is, if Hillary Clinton were Madam President right now, she'd be singing a different tune, arguing the flip side, how any jobs in a stimulus package in a recession economy with a 10% (and growing) unemployment rate benefits the economic whole.

If Hillary were president today, with the current monies allocated for stimulus projects, we wouldn't hear a peep out of Trinity (except to hear her fawn and coo over what a great job Madam President was doing).

If a conservative were president today, with the current monies allocated for stimulus projects, the cons in the House and Senate would be saying that bailouts and large infusions of cash were absolutely necessary for economic recovery, to jump start the engine. And tea parties would be ridiculed on the Sunday talk shows by republicans and conservatives alike and roundly discouraged.

Our own starinvestor was for governmental bailouts -- but he flip-flopped on this issue roughly around the time that Barack Obama was elected to the White House. You do the math.

 

[B_Nick8]

Trinity claimed to have been a Hillary supporter but I've no doubt that's as disingenuous as anything else its ever said. But thanks for the update. As you know, I have it on ignore so this is the only way I hear about it.

And star can't back anything Obama does just on principle whether it works or it doesn't. When the economy turns around he'll be sure to find reasons why Obama had nothing to do with it, mark my words. *sigh* Plus ca change...

 

[B_starinvestor]

I was at the beach today - and I saw a lot of healthy, well-toned beautiful bodies. I think it must be those fly-over and southern states that ruin the national average and give the country a reputation.

Here in California we bike and swim and jog. We're active. We incorporate fruits and vegetables, whole foods and grains into our diets, and we tend to go to the gym.

I love my conservative friends in the flyover states, but, really, there are only so many calories one can burn catcalling and shouting at Sarah Palin rallies and tea parties. Yelling out "Obama is a MUSLIM!" will burn maybe 10 or 15 calories, tops. And listening to Rush Limbaugh while cracking open a beer does not tend to raise the metabolism, as does cardio, for periods long enough to sustain a healthy heart.

Actually, the chant POOP [prisoners of obama's policies] is now being used in spin classes and hot yoga, so were talking 400-500 calories.

 

[Drifterwood]

No. Not 99% of all Americans are fat. Because if that were true, some "full-figured" American, somewhere would terminally sit on you and cut a tire burning fart on your peanut head that it would smell like someone ate a lot of KUNG PAO chicken for a week.

:lmao::lmao::chairfall:

Top drawer Invisi.

 

[Calboner]

I was at the beach today - and I saw a lot of healthy, well-toned beautiful bodies. I think it must be those fly-over and southern states that ruin the national average and give the country a reputation.

Absolutely right. Look at this map of fatness in the USA. With the exception of Oregon (which surprised me), the fat states are all inland and on the southeastern coast. The very fattest states are Mississippi, Alabama, and West Virginia.

 

[deleted15807]

Nick8: Speaking about "Socialist Obama", Trinity is up to her cracker act bemoaning the lack of "shovel-ready jobs" in the state's stimulus packages on another thread.

The fact is, if Hillary Clinton were Madam President right now, she'd be singing a different tune, arguing the flip side, how any jobs in a stimulus package in a recession economy with a 10% (and growing) unemployment rate benefits the economic whole.

If Hillary were president today, with the current monies allocated for stimulus projects, we wouldn't hear a peep out of Trinity (except to hear her fawn and coo over what a great job Madam President was doing).

I don't believe for a second the entity known as Trinity is actually a Democrat who loves Hillary or even a democrat in spite of what it says. The sole thing we do know is she/him/it has a rampant dislike of everything Obama. Never mind if Hillary's platform is 99% Obama's platform. The math just doesn't add up.

 

[BiItalianBro]

Ugh.....i love how obesity has become the new social jihad movement (after smoking) with plenty of finger pointing and few proposed solutions. IMHO the reason why 'experts' like to dance around this issue is that the core cause of obesity is tied to uncomfortable subjects like poverty, social class and race...topics that make Americans squeamish. Throw in a healthy dose vested financial/political interests from the agricultural sector to to suppress scientific evidence pointing to hormonal treatments in livestock and the use of additives in packaged products and their interactions with human metabolism and you have yourself a witches brew.

Do you think it is a coincidence that global obesity is on the rise in nations that are embracing US modeled farming and food processing practices? NO

Do you think it is a coincidence that in the USA, the states with the highest percentages of obesity also the lowest per-capita income stats? NO

Do you think that it is a coincidence that the cost of fresh produce (IF available in some areas) is FIVE times the cost of processed goods? NO

Do you think it is a coincidence that the cost of feeding a family of four from the dollar value menu at (insert fast food place here) is much cheaper than purchasing and preparing healthy alternatives from your local Safeway? NO

Do you think it is coincidence that as relative income goes down in the coming years that the percentage of obese adults & children will go UP in the coming years? NO

True anecdotal story: just got back from the store and paid $3.50 for true whole grain bread. A loaf of the 'grain' bread (white bread chuck full of HFCS & dye for the brown coloring) was a buck. Hmmmmmm.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

That BiItalianBro is one smart fellow... :wink:

 

[Zayne]

I don't think it has as much to do with what Americans (and others in the fat-growing population centers) are eating, as much as it has to do with the normalization of the phenomenon. Once there was a social stigma associated with being overweight. I believe people felt part of a community, and therefore practiced self-restraint. These days, the community itself prides itself on being non-judgemental, when, infact, it is critical of anyone who advocates restraint. It's the same old story, and the same old rule: Don't speak out against the group. The group just happens to be mostly fat people nowadays.

 

[Calboner]

I don't believe for a second the entity known as Trinity is actually a Democrat who loves Hillary or even a democrat in spite of what it says.

And she or he is probably fat.

Ugh.....i love how obesity has become the new social jihad movement (after smoking) with plenty of finger pointing and few proposed solutions.

Clearly, fat people are to blame.

That BiItalianBro is one smart fellow... :wink:

That's because he's not fat.

I don't think it has as much to do with what Americans (and others in the fat-growing population centers) are eating, as much as it has to do with the normalization of the phenomenon.

That and their being fat.

 

[koval]

Or just 99% of them?

Discuss.

Only their dicks are fat :biggrin1:

 

[deleted15807]

Read it and weep

Study Predicts Obesity Apocalypse by 2030

 

[Wyldgusechaz]

Obesity is a legit topic is one ties it to the cost of healthcare.

I went to the local grocery store and you can buy a seasoned, baked (not fried) chicken for $6. Add fresh green beans steamed and a head of lettuce/carrots with a couple sweet potatoes and you might get to $8. Times 31 days is $250. You could feed a family of four on that all month long. At the local hamburger joint a value meal is $5.89 for one person.

People are fat because they overeat. Its not poverty or social class or anything. Its eating too much. Its allowing yourself to get addicted to fatty foods. Eating good nutritious food is NOT expensive.

You guys will always blame the corporations and the government for what is essentially a person making bad decisions.

 

[BiItalianBro]

Obesity is a legit topic is one ties it to the cost of healthcare.

I went to the local grocery store and you can buy a seasoned, baked (not fried) chicken for $6. Add fresh green beans steamed and a head of lettuce/carrots with a couple sweet potatoes and you might get to $8. Times 31 days is $250. You could feed a family of four on that all month long. At the local hamburger joint a value meal is $5.89 for one person.

People are fat because they overeat. Its not poverty or social class or anything. Its eating too much. Its allowing yourself to get addicted to fatty foods. Eating good nutritious food is NOT expensive.

You guys will always blame the corporations and the government for what is essentially a person making bad decisions.

I am not removing personal accountability from the equation and I'm not blaming corporations. I like money...I like the concept of risk and reward...I like the idea that I have a choice in where and how I consume goods & services. I am also grateful that I was taught, at a young age, to do due diligence and take nothing at face value, especially when it comes to marketing.

Many people do not understnad that....and do not know the difference between 'cheap' and 'value'. Speaking of....where does one live to buy a meal for four at 8 bucks??!!! I am SO there!! :biggrin1:

Just bought: 1 lb 90% lean ground beef (untreated): $8
2 cans low sodium black beans: $2.50
1 1 lb bag dark green lettuce: $3.75
8 whole wheat tortillas: $2.00
8oz skim sharp cheddar cheese: $3.00

Total: $19.25


Cost of "XLarge" cheese pizza (ad says nearly ONE POUND of cheese): $10.99

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Obesity is a legit topic is one ties it to the cost of healthcare.

I went to the local grocery store and you can buy a seasoned, baked (not fried) chicken for $6. Add fresh green beans steamed and a head of lettuce/carrots with a couple sweet potatoes and you might get to $8. Times 31 days is $250. You could feed a family of four on that all month long. At the local hamburger joint a value meal is $5.89 for one person.

People are fat because they overeat. Its not poverty or social class or anything. Its eating too much. Its allowing yourself to get addicted to fatty foods. Eating good nutritious food is NOT expensive.

You guys will always blame the corporations and the government for what is essentially a person making bad decisions.

It's not a question of overeating... it's all about what you eat and being honest about it.

Case in point, my partner is on the Weight Watchers Diet. He does eat a LOT of food, and not the food that Weight Watchers sells. He makes a lot of his own salads and grills his own meats including chicken, fish, pork and sausages. In the last few months, he's gone down from being 210 pounds to 183 and he's still working at it. The reason why this diet worked for him is because Weight Watchers provides a system that allows people to count calories, as well as figuring out how many calories one can consume in order to maintain or lose a certain amount of pounds a week. Looking in the book, you find out that you can eat almost all the vegetables you want because most of them, regardless of how it's cooked, isn't much in caloric intake. Grilled & roasted meats like chicken & fish also don't have a lot of calories. In other words, I could eat 3 cups fresh spinach (21 calories), a cup of whole kernel, canned corn (180 calories) and a full size piece of broiled chicken w/o skin (142 calories). That's enough to fill most people and is a lot more food than a Whopper (588 calories), but considerably less in caloric intake. And if I followed up that big meal with 1 hour of vigorous weight training which burns 471 calories, I essentially eliminate it all. However, you could still eat the Whopper if you did the exercise and leave barely more than 100 calories left. And the body does need SOME calories in order to work properly.

I jokingly downloaded a small fitness app for my iPod Touch called "Lose It!" recently and tried to work with the system. All one has to do is input what you eat or drink during the day. It also keeps track of exercises that help you burn calories. It also keeps track of calories for things like mixed drinks and some of the most common fast foods, and even allows you to make your own meals or input new ones. In less than a week using the tool, I've already lost over 4 pounds. This even after having one night out at a few bars with friends, when I surprisingly found out that having just a few Long Island Iced Teas, a shot of Vodka and a bottle of Heineken was the caloric equivalent of having a Big Mac.

Even if people are ultimately responsible for what they eat, it's also a restaurant's obligation to produce accurate information about the calories in their foods so that people can be responsible. It's not enough to just say, "skip eating at McDonald's" when you can actually get some food there that is essentially lower in calories than some health foods especially when you don't have immediate access to a healthier choice. Their classic grilled chicken sandwich with no sauce has always been listed in top tens of one of the healthier fast food sandwiches, including Men's Health Magazine. Losing weight isn't as complicated as it sounds, nor does it require a sadistic food & workout regiment. But it requires an honest effort from everyone.

 

[Wyldgusechaz]

It's not a question of overeating... it's all about what you eat and being honest about it.

Case in point, my partner is on the Weight Watchers Diet. He does eat a LOT of food, and not the food that Weight Watchers sells. He makes a lot of his own salads and grills his own meats including chicken, fish, pork and sausages. In the last few months, he's gone down from being 210 pounds to 183 and he's still working at it. The reason why this diet worked for him is because Weight Watchers provides a system that allows people to count calories, as well as figuring out how many calories one can consume in order to maintain or lose a certain amount of pounds a week. Looking in the book, you find out that you can eat almost all the vegetables you want because most of them, regardless of how it's cooked, isn't much in caloric intake. Grilled & roasted meats like chicken & fish also don't have a lot of calories. In other words, I could eat 3 cups fresh spinach (21 calories), a cup of whole kernel, canned corn (180 calories) and a full size piece of broiled chicken w/o skin (142 calories). That's enough to fill most people and is a lot more food than a Whopper (588 calories), but considerably less in caloric intake. And if I followed up that big meal with 1 hour of vigorous weight training which burns 471 calories, I essentially eliminate it all. However, you could still eat the Whopper if you did the exercise and leave barely more than 100 calories left. And the body does need SOME calories in order to work properly.

I jokingly downloaded a small fitness app for my iPod Touch called "Lose It!" recently and tried to work with the system. All one has to do is input what you eat or drink during the day. It also keeps track of exercises that help you burn calories. It also keeps track of calories for things like mixed drinks and some of the most common fast foods, and even allows you to make your own meals or input new ones. In less than a week using the tool, I've already lost over 4 pounds. This even after having one night out at a few bars with friends, when I surprisingly found out that having just a few Long Island Iced Teas, a shot of Vodka and a bottle of Heineken was the caloric equivalent of having a Big Mac.

Even if people are ultimately responsible for what they eat, it's also a restaurant's obligation to produce accurate information about the calories in their foods so that people can be responsible. It's not enough to just say, "skip eating at McDonald's" when you can actually get some food there that is essentially lower in calories than some health foods especially when you don't have immediate access to a healthier choice. Their classic grilled chicken sandwich with no sauce has always been listed in top tens of one of the healthier fast food sandwiches, including Men's Health Magazine. Losing weight isn't as complicated as it sounds, nor does it require a sadistic food & workout regiment. But it requires an honest effort from everyone.

If you are around skinny people, you will see they don't eat much. And you are right they eat good foods. They really do. I watch them. You can't pick up a package of food without finding the nutrition content of what you are eating. MOst of my friends are overweight and they get that way by eating too much and eating bad foods.

 

[scarletfury]

No... not all Americans are fat. For example, myself. I'm pretty damn underweight. Plus, I'm American. =P

 

[Trinity]

Nick8: Speaking about "Socialist Obama", Trinity is up to her cracker act bemoaning the lack of "shovel-ready jobs" in the state's stimulus packages on another thread.

You are too much of a coward to address the issue of "shovel-ready jobs" in the thread.

The fact is, if Hillary Clinton were Madam President right now, she'd be singing a different tune, arguing the flip side, how any jobs in a stimulus package in a recession economy with a 10% (and growing) unemployment rate benefits the economic whole.

The stimulus is lagging and you post an article that the states are responsible, so stop blaming Obama because he did his job. Obama's job was to put together a plan that worked and that would not get bogged down in the states. Obama ran on a platform of fiscal responsibility and ridiculed Bush for doubling the deficit. Obama claimed he would be a pay-as-you go President and that his blueprint for change was paid for. Now, Obama is potentially going to triple the deficit with the continuation of the bailouts, spending, borrowing and taxing.

WillTom why hide in a Fat Thread and gossip like a little girl?

I don't believe for a second the entity known as Trinity is actually a Democrat who loves Hillary or even a democrat in spite of what it says. The sole thing we do know is she/him/it has a rampant dislike of everything Obama. Never mind if Hillary's platform is 99% Obama's platform. The math just doesn't add up.

Were you awake during the primary? There were major differences between Obama and Hillary Clinton and Hillary made them very clear herself. They both supported the Democratic platform, however Hillary Clinton would have been a very different President and she would have made very different decisions from Barack Obama. I did not support Obama for President and I still do not agree with many of his decisions as President.

If Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were one in the same, Michelle Obama would have gladly stated she'd support Hillary Clinton for President.

I do not agree with the direction Obama is taking the country and I believe that most of the rhetoric from his hope and change campaign is being revealed to be exactly that - rhetoric.

 

[Calboner]

Read it and weep

Study Predicts Obesity Apocalypse by 2030

No, the apocalypse will come a few years after that, when people get so fat that the pressure of their bodies against each other causes a nuclear explosion, destroying the planet.

No... not all Americans are fat. For example, myself. I'm pretty damn underweight. Plus, I'm American. =P

Don't you try to fool us, fatso. Here's a picture of you.