Are Black men actually making money on OnlyFans/JustForFans?

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Black content creators who cater to the mainstream are able to make a comfortable living but at a cost. They are making content that caters to black male fetishizers by playing in to the degrading tropes of black men. It's interracial and it's to appeal to non black people so they essentially neglect their core fanbase which is black men for the money they can make from non black audiences all while feeding the stereotypes of black masculinity being hyper sexual, hyper masculine, beastial, and desirous of white flesh. I personally don't support black content creators that mostly do interracial or only interracial because I know why they are doing it and I know who they are trying to appeal to. Black people in most cases have never pushed for scenes showcasing interracial interactions. That is a fantasy that non black people tend to push for which is why mainstream porn started making a lot of BBC and interracial porn for white people's desires. Now we are in an age where content creators are able to do things independently and they are following that same model because it's where they can gain the most money.
 
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Some of the things I've read in this thread are toeing the line or no better than things white gays would say about black people and anything black produced lol. I'll just kept it simple and say I didn't read too much into it.

I'd say OF can be profitable but it takes effort and the further you deviate from a muscular white guy who can present as straight in some way, the more difficult it will be and the more you have make an effort to make good quality porn to hold attention. A below average white guy with a worse body and no collaborations and meh quality solos can be more successful than black amateurs who regularly put out decent quality collaborations and scenes.

I'll say the following:

- Porn featuring black people is typically some of the most viewed straight and gay (sort by most viewed categories on any popular streaming site). There's absolutely a fetishizing element to it.

- Drug use is as prominent if not MORE prominent in the white gay porn community. BY the numbers sites like Lucas that have their stars inject performance enhancing drugs as well as the list of stars who sadly passed away due to drug use, there are simply no more white than black by any measurable statistic besides anecdotal. Please feel free to provide data that says otherwise.

- Porn Quality is usually due to budget and effort. Historically black porn has purposefully been shot as worse than, darker skin requires different lighting and focus and more knowledgeable people on production. (I've seen enough interracial scenes without the black performers being provided moisturizer etc before a shoot in the promo images) Proof of a studio who purposefully shot black content at lower quality. Budget makes a huge difference. Lighting, and effort after a video is shot makes all the difference in a scene. Rhyheim has a team that works with people with darker skin. They film in spaces that support it. (i don't love his scenes for personal reasons but he clearly hired the right people).

- Porn featuring black individuals regardless of its popularity, is treated as other. The black men are typically dehumanized or looked at as little more than a fetish. Some of the language and visuals are overt, some are subtle in things like Naming. ( Blacks on Boys is still the most ugh example of this on site names, then we have the uncomfortable things like Lucas Studios Naming a film "black cocks matter" in 2018, the endless list of white porn stars who have loudly been able to say they will never work with black men and still worked with studios full time. Don't get me started on all the "Thug" scenes )

- Black OF stars feel like they need to work with white people in order to be more successful. Men of color are just treated like crap all round tbh. Think of the last interracial black/asian scene you saw from a studio, an Asian topping a black dude, or better yet a darker skinned south asian man with a black man. Recently (and this is like my point of looking for this thread LMAO) Amadeus aka Massively mode, made a tweet yesterday about how he feels like his OF is dying and he's going to have to get a normal job. Apparently he had an outpouring of comments about how he should work with other black men. He's been noted since tumblr days to have been a firm "Its my preference I dont like black men, they are not my preference" etc.

Genuinely there's a lot to discuss about the topic that is super fascinating but most things looked at negatively in black porn can be traced back to more than the statement in a matter of fact manner.
This is a great reply. Would you be okay with me quoting you on another thread? There are parts of your reply that definitely relate to some of the subjects I've been raising about black male fetishism and the racist tropes that are often pushed in mainstream porn as it relates to black men and black masculinity. Although I raise these topics on a forum that is predominately made up of people that are not black, I still feel that there are some people that are willing to see the POV of a black man who doesn't find being fetishized to be flattering.
 

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This is a great reply. Would you be okay with me quoting you on another thread? There are parts of your reply that definitely relate to some of the subjects I've been raising about black male fetishism and the racist tropes that are often pushed in mainstream porn as it relates to black men and black masculinity. Although I raise these topics on a forum that is predominately made up of people that are not black, I still feel that there are some people that are willing to see the POV of a black man who doesn't find being fetishized to be flattering.
Oh absolutely, honestly I don't even feel like I was that structured enough but if it feels quotable, feel free!

The internet and a lot of spaces are large don't realize like the levels of racism and the how intensely racial dynamics have changed in the last 3-5 years alone let alone historically. Especially in regards to black men and black women. For men my #1 is BWC-

BWC or big white cock is not like something that has always been around and it feels more targeted and gross than most things I have fully formed thoughts on lol.
Like Black men had the moniker thrust upon them and then like for inadequacy, white men invented a new category for them to keep black separate from them and create a value system. It's nuts.
 

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Oh absolutely, honestly I don't even feel like I was that structured enough but if it feels quotable, feel free!

The internet and a lot of spaces are large don't realize like the levels of racism and the how intensely racial dynamics have changed in the last 3-5 years alone let alone historically. Especially in regards to black men and black women. For men my #1 is BWC-

BWC or big white cock is not like something that has always been around and it feels more targeted and gross than most things I have fully formed thoughts on lol.
Like Black men had the moniker thrust upon them and then like for inadequacy, white men invented a new category for them to keep black separate from them and create a value system. It's nuts.
OMG YES YES! I HATE when I see bwc and throw up in my mouth a little. White men thrusted bbc on black men and then when they realized they weren’t getting all the attention, decided to weaponizing their tokenized term for even more of their own benefit. Like you said it really is nuts.
 
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OMG YES YES! I HATE when I see bwc and throw up in my mouth a little. White men thrusted bbc on black men and then when they realized they weren’t getting all the attention, decided to weaponizing their tokenized term for even more of their own benefit. Like you said it really is nuts.
I just love that statement "weaponizing their tokenized term" Class but so true.
 

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OMG YES YES! I HATE when I see bwc and throw up in my mouth a little. White men thrusted bbc on black men and then when they realized they weren’t getting all the attention, decided to weaponizing their tokenized term for even more of their own benefit. Like you said it really is nuts.
Not mad that this thread went the route of deconstructing harmful racial stereotypes in porn, just...surprised. Why can't this discussion be had outside of this site where it gets more attention. Where y'all be discussing this at? @HOU_HEADHUNTER
 

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Not mad that this thread went the route of deconstructing harmful racial stereotypes in porn, just...surprised. Why can't this discussion be had outside of this site where it gets more attention. Where y'all be discussing this at? @HOU_HEADHUNTER
I’m happy to have this conversation any time, anywhere. It’s just that most people don’t want to have it <shrug>
 

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@reges198 and @ShyHornyAfreakcan It's a discussion that's being had although not as much as it needs to be. Aside from this site you can find similar topics of racialized fetishization of black men on reddit also. I've posted a few topics on this site but I find that this site seems to attract a lot of non-black trolls who get defensive when you call it out. Surprisingly, there are a few black guys on this site that will back up the claims because they are also annoyed with how black men are treated as props for other people's pleasure. It's an uncomfortable topic but that's okay because it's a topic that needs to be had.
 

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@reges198 and @ShyHornyAfreakcan It's a discussion that's being had although not as much as it needs to be. Aside from this site you can find similar topics of racialized fetishization of black men on reddit also. I've posted a few topics on this site but I find that this site seems to attract a lot of non-black trolls who get defensive when you call it out. Surprisingly, there are a few black guys on this site that will back up the claims because they are also annoyed with how black men are treated as props for other people's pleasure. It's an uncomfortable topic but that's okay because it's a topic that needs to be had.
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@reges198 and @ShyHornyAfreakcan It's a discussion that's being had although not as much as it needs to be. Aside from this site you can find similar topics of racialized fetishization of black men on reddit also. I've posted a few topics on this site but I find that this site seems to attract a lot of non-black trolls who get defensive when you call it out. Surprisingly, there are a few black guys on this site that will back up the claims because they are also annoyed with how black men are treated as props for other people's pleasure. It's an uncomfortable topic but that's okay because it's a topic that needs to be had.
It goes so many ways. One example, if you were to google or even on twitter and all the porn sites. Black men topping Asian guys. You will see tons and tons of videos and content. Now do the opposite. Asian guys topping black guys. You will barely find anything.

It’s really bad. Like you will get black guys that tend to bottom. But if they do a video with an Asian guy they are always the top. Same of you get Asians that usually top, when they finally do a video with a black guy they are the bottom.

This seeps from porn into real life. Once you notice this, you cannot unsee it.
 
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It goes so many ways. One example, if you were to google or even on twitter and all the porn sites. Black men topping Asian guys. You will see tons and tons of videos and content. Now do the opposite. Asian guys topping black guys. You will barely find anything.

It’s really bad. Like you will get black guys that tend to bottom. But if they do a video with an Asian guy they are always the top. Same of you get Asians that usually top, when they finally do a video with a black guy they are the bottom.

This seeps from porn into real life. Once you notice this, you cannot unsee it.
Asian and Black guys together in porn are way more rare then you are making it out in general, we dont really need to get into top/bottom.

yes there are very few of Asian men topping Black men, but in general there are very little Asian and Black scenes to start with.

Both Asians and Black men are incredibly fetishized for white consumers already - most Asians are assumed to bottom for stereotypical racist reasons, same for Black men being assumed to top.

Additionally both are seen as "others" in gay porn so there is very little in general of these, vs either with white.

The source isn't media, it's media reflecting society. How black men are steretyped and how asian men are sterotyped. Black men seen as "aggressive" Asian men seen as "submissive or docile".

The topic has a lot of layer because Asians is more than Korea China and Japan. Colorism is why we dont see many darker skinned Asian men (such as Indian men, or darker Koreans, Thai people, Chinese men etc).

Its hard to summarize briefly but it is not seeping from porn into real life it is media reflecting life.

Let alone getting into how Asian and Black relations are impacted by the model minority falsehood , Asian men's "proximity" to whiteness, non American colorist ideas and global antiblackness.
 

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It goes so many ways. One example, if you were to google or even on twitter and all the porn sites. Black men topping Asian guys. You will see tons and tons of videos and content. Now do the opposite. Asian guys topping black guys. You will barely find anything.

It’s really bad. Like you will get black guys that tend to bottom. But if they do a video with an Asian guy they are always the top. Same of you get Asians that usually top, when they finally do a video with a black guy they are the bottom.

This seeps from porn into real life. Once you notice this, you cannot unsee it.
Very true. I'm glad black guys are noticing this. I've been telling people that black men are only valued in porn if they fit the trope that are desired of black men which are usually them as tops. Black bottoms are not shown the same amount of love in the mainstream industry. It definitely does seep into real life when you are on an app and everyone that's not black that hits you up are assuming you are a top and you soon realize that they want to live out some "BBC Fantasy" that they have.
 

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Very true. I'm glad black guys are noticing this. I've been telling people that black men are only valued in porn if they fit the trope that are desired of black men which are usually them as tops. Black bottoms are not shown the same amount of love in the mainstream industry. It definitely does seep into real life when you are on an app and everyone that's not black that hits you up are assuming you are a top and you soon realize that they want to live out some "BBC Fantasy" that they have.
Part of the appeal of onlyfans is that it is so broad that you can actually find non traditionally mainstream looking guys in mainstream roles based on their looks doing porn. I never used to pay ANY money for porn, it was incredibly rare unless I saw a guy I wanted to see a scene with locked behind a paywall that was appealing to me personally but perhaps not others. One example was this guy who came and went as a darker skinned latino.

https://thegay.com/videos/1037179/tony-shore-in-diego-gets-rough-fucked-by/

diego diaz, sadly he seems to have stopped doing porn. But with onlyfans the "looks" you are super into have a good chance of being represented, even if they stray far from the mainstream aesthetic that is more popular.

Onlyfans is the salvation of niche tastes, and in doing so explodes the amount of money people spend.
 
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/unhinged sidebar rant

nothing is less attractive than checking a box when it comes to black actors in standard hollywood tv/films. Many actors are subjected to superficial judgment, but when it comes to picking the black token, whatevs!

This is what annoyed me about Finn in Star Wars. Is John Boyega a good actor? Sure, but I'd rather look at this black face:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...00px-Alfred_Enoch_(30383990004)_(cropped).jpg

or this one

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/t..._Knight.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190726165804


than this face:

https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2014/12/1201-Star-Wars-Boyega.jpg?alias=standard_900x600



.... COME ON people !!!!!!! All pretense of giving a damn about appearance when it comes to the black actors, out the damn window. They picked the one guy who actually looked like a gamorrean guard.


I'm not saying every casting has to look like a pretty boy, but come the eff on. Oscar Isaac is not ugly, Daisy was not ugly, Kylo... ok you got one there. But still.

Imagine if they cast John Boyega to play sweetness in roll bounce


crap video/audio but there is not a better one without cuts online

/end rant
 

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so lets summarize:
if white guys top black guys - its a collonial white fettish.
if black guys top white or asian guys - its conditioning steriotypes for whites
if asian guys top black guys - its done for collonial white fettish.
if black guys top black guys - its white fettish.
if white guys top white guys - its discriminational white racism
if everybody gangbangs - its conditioning steriotypes for whites
if theres no porn - its whites trying to disenfranchise others
 

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Asian and Black guys together in porn are way more rare then you are making it out in general, we dont really need to get into top/bottom.

yes there are very few of Asian men topping Black men, but in general there are very little Asian and Black scenes to start with.

Both Asians and Black men are incredibly fetishized for white consumers already - most Asians are assumed to bottom for stereotypical racist reasons, same for Black men being assumed to top.

Additionally both are seen as "others" in gay porn so there is very little in general of these, vs either with white.

The source isn't media, it's media reflecting society. How black men are steretyped and how asian men are sterotyped. Black men seen as "aggressive" Asian men seen as "submissive or docile".

The topic has a lot of layer because Asians is more than Korea China and Japan. Colorism is why we dont see many darker skinned Asian men (such as Indian men, or darker Koreans, Thai people, Chinese men etc).

Its hard to summarize briefly but it is not seeping from porn into real life it is media reflecting life.

Let alone getting into how Asian and Black relations are impacted by the model minority falsehood , Asian men's "proximity" to whiteness, non American colorist ideas and global antiblackness.
Whew. You are preaching all up and down this thread. We also can’t leave out that anti- blackness isn’t an exclusively white phenomenon. Asians, both far East and south Asian, have largely been sold an assimilationist, racist pathway to acceptance in the west. I live in Seattle and the Asians here can be just as (or more) racist than white people. It’s sad honestly.
 

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Whew. You are preaching all up and down this thread. We also can’t leave out that anti- blackness isn’t an exclusively white phenomenon. Asians, both far East and south Asian, have largely been sold an assimilationist, racist pathway to acceptance in the west. I live in Seattle and the Asians here can be just as (or more) racist than white people. It’s sad honestly.
That is true but it not only to sold in the West as it happenings within their own communities linked within their caste systems et al.
 
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