Are black men really bigger?

[TinyPrincess]

You do realize I am not an American, right?

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[TinyPrincess]

This is a well-thought out argument I feel and could very well be true. However, I Don't think the white race will ever truly admit to black men having bigger penises because it would be admitting to some degree that the black man has SOME SORT OF advantage over the white man....and white men will not go along with this. Do black women tend to have bigger butts/hips? Yup...And white men will admit to that. Do Asians (East) tend to have more slanted eyes. Yup! And white men will admit to this. Do black people tend to that have thicker lips/noses and kinkier hair? Yup! and white men will admit to this. However, these are all traits that aren't necessarily seen as "superior" the way a big penis is compared to a small(er) one. For that reason, the white man can do ANYTHING in this entire world (development entire systems/worlds, etc) but still WILL NOT invest time and energy into finding out what the average black man penis size is by taking black men from AFrica, United States, and Latin America and finding out a true average. This is not impossible. Hell, in the united states so many black men are in prison...the white man would EASILY use those crowded prisons as his data pool. However, will the white man ever do this? NOPE. Why? Because it would be admitting that a group of people, particularly black men, they have deemed as inferior to them for hundreds of years have a BIG advantage -- a trait that ever society in the world sees as an advantage. I'm a black man with a little over five inches hard and have had more sexual encounters with other black men than I would like to admit. Whoever tells you 5 to 5.5 is average for a black man is telling a GODDAMN LIE

And as pointed out to you before - every single scientist in the world has to be white - or your entire belief system is void.

I've seen plenty of studies from non-white scientists, none can point to any size difference though. So apparently the "white man" have paid scientists all around the world to hide the "truth".

Can't we keep these bs racial ideas from the thread and concentrate on the questions asked by the OP - please, pretty please.

 

[napwayne]

And as pointed out to you before - every single scientist in the world has to be white - or your entire belief system is void.

I've seen plenty of studies from non-white scientists, none can point to any size difference though. So apparently the "white man" have paid scientists all around the world to hide the "truth".

Can't we keep these bs racial ideas from the thread and concentrate on the questions asked by the OP - please, pretty please.

If that was all u pulled out of that entire statement u proved my point to a degree. The point is is that all races of men have been conditioned ti see black men as less than. It is a societal issue . regardless they're not going to " find" black men are better endowed because it would be admitting an evolutionary advantage that no other race of men wants to admit. As other races of men if they're harder "workers" than black men and I bet you'd get a lot buying into stereotypes that black men are lazy ..with little push back to deny such. Why? Because it keeps other men in an advantageous position perception-wise.

 

[napwayne]

I'm going to visit forums blogs etc where intelligence by race is talked about and see how many ppl are speaking up to say that blacks ARE NOT less intelligent that whites Asians Arabic's etc. Judging by what I see on here, that should be a problem.

 

[TinyPrincess]

Exactly the stereotypes I hate. Blacks being less intelligent is just as ridiculous as blacks being bigger. Both claims must be considered racist if they can't be proven.

 

[ItsAll4Kim]

I'm going to visit forums blogs etc where intelligence by race is talked about and see how many ppl are speaking up to say that blacks ARE NOT less intelligent that whites Asians Arabic's etc. Judging by what I see on here, that should be a problem.

Why? Two here have already spoken up.

What do you want, a parade?

 

[Terriblackcherry]

I try to keep it simple and brief.

You are getting your eugenics mixed with your genetics.

Genetics: the study of heredity and the variation of inherited characteristics. Certain genetics develop for a person to adapt to a certain environment

Eugenics: the ideal that you can improve a population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. Most of these qualities are considered superior by certain groups.

Take an A Black African Man vs. A White Norwegian Man

Genetically they are different. It is not racist to say that. For example:

The African Man:

1. Wide nose and dark skin to adapt to the affect the sun and intense heat of Africa.
2. Less hair on the body, short hair. Again, African is hot and dry and this has help African people survive in Africa for thousands if not millions of years.
3. Most Africans that move to cooler climates may suffer from “rickets” and less vitamin D production than Norwegians.

The Norwegian Man:

1.Thin Nose and light skin to adapt to the cold of the north.
2.More body hair, long hair. Again, to deal with heavier winters.
3.When Norwegian move to more sun intense area they are more prone to skin cancer than African People.

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Eugenics is Racist.

The Eugenicist will say:

1.Norwegian features are inherently Superior because they are more attractive looking than the African.
2. Norwegians live in houses made from wood and Africans live in Mud huts so the Norwegian is superior.
3. Most Norwegians have 4-6 inch penises, that’s normal, anything larger is animistic. Africans have big dicks …

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What does this have to do with BBC?

Black men might genetically have bigger cocks … So, what. However, that is not what BBC is about. It is about the Black Men (Black people) being sexually portrayed as Animals. During slavery Black People in many cases were bread like animals. Black men were referred to as “bulls” and Black sex was considered “breeding.” Eugenic science taught White people that Black people were uncultured ape. That was ready to "breed" with anything that got too close. (So Hide de White Women!) This is the reality of chattel slavery in America.

Fast forward to modern “Cuckhold Culture”. Pornography that portrays big black men (6’4) having sex with a petite white woman (5’ or below) often dressed childish. Pornographers will take White men of all penis sizes but only hire Black Men with large penises. Black Porn Actor must having sex, interracial sex, gay sex, trans sex and have no limits. Of course, Black Man will be the aggressor in the scene most of the time. White Women Rape fantasy, teen interracial defloreration, cuckhold play, and meeting random Black Men at glory hole. All for the Mighty “BBC!”

Nobody wants to know about the Black Man. Personal struggles, history, likes, dislikes, society contributions, hobbies all they want to know is does he have a “BBC”. Do you know why? Because some people view us as animals, risky or taboo. Sex with Black People is supposed to be a thrill, a fetish. This is why people love the BBC!

To want the tool but having nothing to do with the person.

That’s Racist!

 

[Essexboy8714]

Short and sweet answer.........
from my experience no,just the same as any other

 

[Terriblackcherry]

Furthermore…

Some people fetishize Black Cock! When YOU CALL THEM ON IT, they are always the ones to try gaslighting others. They will say they don’t see color (but they see BBC!), I’m not racist, there is no genetic difference between the races (except for BBC!). They don’t know nothing about Black People personal (but they know BBC!)

Stop it. Get over yourself!

 

[deleted15807]

The bigger question that everyone seems to be avoiding is “why does it matter if Black guys are bigger?”

Does it make other people feel inferior or less of a man, if so?

One explanation: If you are in the sexual marketplace that kind of 'advantage' of a rival real or imagined has to be eliminated.

It could get bad...

 

[Snakebyte]

This is a well-thought out argument I feel and could very well be true. However, I Don't think the white race will ever truly admit to black men having bigger penises because it would be admitting to some degree that the black man has SOME SORT OF advantage over the white man....and white men will not go along with this. Do black women tend to have bigger butts/hips? Yup...And white men will admit to that. Do Asians (East) tend to have more slanted eyes. Yup! And white men will admit to this. Do black people tend to that have thicker lips/noses and kinkier hair? Yup! and white men will admit to this. However, these are all traits that aren't necessarily seen as "superior" the way a big penis is compared to a small(er) one. For that reason, the white man can do ANYTHING in this entire world (development entire systems/worlds, etc) but still WILL NOT invest time and energy into finding out what the average black man penis size is by taking black men from AFrica, United States, and Latin America and finding out a true average. This is not impossible. Hell, in the united states so many black men are in prison...the white man would EASILY use those crowded prisons as his data pool. However, will the white man ever do this? NOPE. Why? Because it would be admitting that a group of people, particularly black men, they have deemed as inferior to them for hundreds of years have a BIG advantage -- a trait that ever society in the world sees as an advantage. I'm a black man with a little over five inches hard and have had more sexual encounters with other black men than I would like to admit. Whoever tells you 5 to 5.5 is average for a black man is telling a GODDAMN LIE

Your problem is you are living in the USA. Not every white male around the world is from the USA. As a matter of fact the minority is. Now guess what, the racism towards black people is an huge American problem. It's not the same in other countries. So you can forget about your bullshit that white men will never acknowledge when black men have some sort of advantage. On the other hand people like you never will acknowledge facts as long as they don't fit their opinion.
I posted clinical studies which took place in Nigeria and Tanzania. Both done by non-white men. The last time I checked both countries were part of Africa. But you're resistant against proven facts.
Even if the black average was bigger, I'd still be bigger than most of them. So why the hell would I care? But unlike you I believe in science. And science has proven there is no significant difference. Like it or not.
What probably will break your heart: there are (highly educated) black men out there saying it is just a myth and actually explaining how this myth started in the first place. Are those people actually white? Or why are they lying (according to you) about the size of their brothers?

If that was all u pulled out of that entire statement u proved my point to a degree. The point is is that all races of men have been conditioned ti see black men as less than. It is a societal issue . regardless they're not going to " find" black men are better endowed because it would be admitting an evolutionary advantage that no other race of men wants to admit. As other races of men if they're harder "workers" than black men and I bet you'd get a lot buying into stereotypes that black men are lazy ..with little push back to deny such. Why? Because it keeps other men in an advantageous position perception-wise.

And again, American problem. The USA is not the world, although Americans like to believe that. Besides that a bigger penis is no evolutionary advantage, it actually is quite the opposite. But yeah, science.. I know.
You talk about stereotypes but have no fucking clue about the complexity. Like intelligence vs. education, socioeconomic status and the list goes on. Just show me one single scientific study that is evidence for such negative stereotypes. They don't exist? Well, same goes for the positive stereotype.

I'm going to visit forums blogs etc where intelligence by race is talked about and see how many ppl are speaking up to say that blacks ARE NOT less intelligent that whites Asians Arabic's etc. Judging by what I see on here, that should be a problem.

Intelligence is fluid and not fixed. Education is not the same as intelligence. Do you actually know that there is a debate about whether the IQ differences are genetic or because of environmental factors? Did you know that you can change your IQ in tests for about 20 points related to how much you use your brain? That's more than one standard deviation. Your thinking is way too simple on such extremely complex matters.

 

[soren10]

People are free to believe, hell even worship, the BBC and huge cock " superiority " . There is nothing wrong with that, until they try to force their beliefs to others. Also for the topic at hand, no scientific proof is posted here, so far, so the " quest " for proof is still on-going.

 

[playainda336]

So can we talk about how race is a social construct and White and Black doesn’t really exist outside of the USA?

I mean even here, when people began immigrating from Europe, those people weren’t considered to be “White”, because they weren’t pure Anglo Saxons.

There’s also this whole thing with African people outside of the US; they will fight you if you call them Black or say that you are an “African-American”…but real quick to say you’re their enword.

Being from the US is a level of privilege in and of itself, but I wouldn’t say people from outside of the US are truly Black or White because they didn’t experience the systemic oppression from either side from birth that we do here.

At that same token, this also kind of disallows for this theory that “Black” is bigger because of a study in Africa or that “White” is smaller because of a study in Europe.

Can we just get an American study? Lol do it in prison so IRB approves it quicker. ‍

 

[TinyPrincess]

Being from the US is a level of privilege in and of itself, but I wouldn’t say people from outside of the US are truly Black or White because they didn’t experience the systemic oppression from either side from birth that we do here.

Not sure I get why being from the US (or any other country) should be a privilege in itself.

Also not sure why a black African shouldn't be considered black - or a white European shouldn't be considered white.

 

[ItsAll4Kim]

So can we talk about how race is a social construct and White and Black doesn’t really exist outside of the USA?

I mean even here, when people began immigrating from Europe, those people weren’t considered to be “White”, because they weren’t pure Anglo Saxons.

There’s also this whole thing with African people outside of the US; they will fight you if you call them Black or say that you are an “African-American”…but real quick to say you’re their enword.

Being from the US is a level of privilege in and of itself, but I wouldn’t say people from outside of the US are truly Black or White because they didn’t experience the systemic oppression from either side from birth that we do here.

At that same token, this also kind of disallows for this theory that “Black” is bigger because of a study in Africa or that “White” is smaller because of a study in Europe.

Can we just get an American study? Lol do it in prison so IRB approves it quicker. ‍

The level of obfuscation in this thread is ridiculous. We know what black and white mean within the scientific context of the question posed, and the question of whether black men are larger on average than other races is clear and uncomplicated. All the rest is just an attempt to distract and deflect. The question posed is not a social issue, the myth that generated the question is. The question is an attempt to replace myth with fact. If the facts supports the myth, then it's no longer a myth...it's a statement of fact. If the facts do not support the myth, the facts don't magically transform into a social statement or imply racism. Facts are nothing more than accurate observations supporting an eventual conclusion.

 

[playainda336]

Not sure I get why being from the US (or any other country) should be a privilege in itself.

Also not sure why a black African shouldn't be considered black - or a white European shouldn't be considered white.

The same reason why Irish, Polish, Jewish, etc people despite being "White" weren't considered so when they came to the United States...because they weren't considered to be "Pure Anglo Saxon" or a "WASP".

Also, being American grants a level of privilege to kind of ignore social issues or context from without even with the context of the internet. I mean...do you keep up with our news and the stuff that gets said on it? Lol most Americans don't know/understand/comprehend anything outside of an American context and it's damned near rose colored specs, so yeah...that why.

I guess the biggest thing that kind of irks me about this thread is the greater context for what it means to be "White" and "Black" and most people from outside of the US (no offense intended) just don't really get it.

The level of obfuscation in this thread is ridiculous. We know what black and white mean within the scientific context of the question posed, and the question of whether black men are larger on average than other races is clear and uncomplicated. All the rest is just an attempt to distract and deflect. The question posed is not a social issue, the myth that generated the question is. The question is an attempt to replace myth with fact. If the facts supports the myth, then it's no longer a myth...it's a statement of fact. If the facts do not support the myth, the facts don't magically transform into a social statement or imply racism. Facts are nothing more than accurate observations supporting an eventual conclusion.

I'm sorry, what?

Did not the myth originate in America? Isn't that where the stereotype of the "buck" originated? The mandingo? The myth in and of itself originates from the the race issue in the United States even the fact that people keep going back and forth about it because of how it somehow is associated with "power" or "dominance".

The assumption that Black men are naturally larger than White men because of the color of their skin is racism and a racial issue that originates from the US. I don't even know what you were attempting to juxtapose, as I was not defending the myth or denouncing it. I just think the conversation is preposterous. Hell, I even said that the myth is less valid because they were dealing with people in Africa and not "Black" people. I don't know what I was distracting or deflecting from.

I mean, I get that if you're not a POC it's easy to lump them all together as one big monolith, but we are not. Hell...Africans and Black Americans are far from it. But also White Americans and British people...Australians...French...etc. Culture is NOT the same as ethnicity. "Black" and "White" are cultural archetypes...not ethnicities.

In the greater context, this stuff just stops making sense more and more.

 

[Snakebyte]

The same reason why Irish, Polish, Jewish, etc people despite being "White" weren't considered so when they came to the United States...because they weren't considered to be "Pure Anglo Saxon" or a "WASP".

WASP means White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. The Irish and Polish were catholics, the Jewish obviously Jewish. That had absolutely nothing to do with being white but with being no Protestants hence their religion.

Also, being American grants a level of privilege to kind of ignore social issues or context from without even with the context of the internet. I mean...do you keep up with our news and the stuff that gets said on it? Lol most Americans don't know/understand/comprehend anything outside of an American context and it's damned near rose colored specs, so yeah...that why.

How is that any different in other countries around the world?

I guess the biggest thing that kind of irks me about this thread is the greater context for what it means to be "White" and "Black" and most people from outside of the US (no offense intended) just don't really get it.
I'm sorry, what?

There are both more white and black people outside of the US than in the US. If you mean others don't know what it means to be black in the USA.. then ok. But if you are talking in general, it's just nonsense.

Did not the myth originate in America? Isn't that where the stereotype of the "buck" originated? The mandingo? The myth in and of itself originates from the the race issue in the United States even the fact that people keep going back and forth about it because of how it somehow is associated with "power" or "dominance".

Big dick equals beast or animal. So yes, the crackers used every excuse to think as animals of their slaves. But the myth lived on because of the porn industry.

The assumption that Black men are naturally larger than White men because of the color of their skin is racism and a racial issue that originates from the US. I don't even know what you were attempting to juxtapose, as I was not defending the myth or denouncing it. I just think the conversation is preposterous. Hell, I even said that the myth is less valid because they were dealing with people in Africa and not "Black" people. I don't know what I was distracting or deflecting from.

I mean, I get that if you're not a POC it's easy to lump them all together as one big monolith, but we are not. Hell...Africans and Black Americans are far from it. But also White Americans and British people...Australians...French...etc. Culture is NOT the same as ethnicity. "Black" and "White" are cultural archetypes...not ethnicities.

In the greater context, this stuff just stops making sense more and more.

The OP asked a pretty simple question though. The whole shit show started when specific members made it about race and racism.

 

[BigFloppy10Wanted]

Generalizations like this are definitely tough. But I have to be honest with myself and say that I do believe that there are a greater percentage of Black men who have bigger dicks than White men. And Jamaicans, for instance, are larger than white Americans on average. Just my non-scientific opinion. But I have seen a lot of naked whites and blacks in various showers that I've been in. Viva la difference!

 

[TinyPrincess]

The same reason why Irish, Polish, Jewish, etc people despite being "White" weren't considered so when they came to the United States...because they weren't considered to be "Pure Anglo Saxon" or a "WASP".

Also, being American grants a level of privilege to kind of ignore social issues or context from without even with the context of the internet. I mean...do you keep up with our news and the stuff that gets said on it? Lol most Americans don't know/understand/comprehend anything outside of an American context and it's damned near rose colored specs, so yeah...that why.

I guess the biggest thing that kind of irks me about this thread is the greater context for what it means to be "White" and "Black" and most people from outside of the US (no offense intended) just don't really get it.
I'm sorry, what?

Did not the myth originate in America? Isn't that where the stereotype of the "buck" originated? The mandingo? The myth in and of itself originates from the the race issue in the United States even the fact that people keep going back and forth about it because of how it somehow is associated with "power" or "dominance".

The assumption that Black men are naturally larger than White men because of the color of their skin is racism and a racial issue that originates from the US. I don't even know what you were attempting to juxtapose, as I was not defending the myth or denouncing it. I just think the conversation is preposterous. Hell, I even said that the myth is less valid because they were dealing with people in Africa and not "Black" people. I don't know what I was distracting or deflecting from.

I mean, I get that if you're not a POC it's easy to lump them all together as one big monolith, but we are not. Hell...Africans and Black Americans are far from it. But also White Americans and British people...Australians...French...etc. Culture is NOT the same as ethnicity. "Black" and "White" are cultural archetypes...not ethnicities.

In the greater context, this stuff just stops making sense more and more.

Long post - all wrong... Sorry...

 

[playainda336]

As much as all seem to be so competent on race/minorities/marginalized populations and the social concepts/constructs related as non-minorities, I'd urge you all to do some research into Whiteness studies, the Big Four theory, boundary theory, the philosophies therein and the ramifications of said theories.

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