Are Brits not happy for other's achievements?

Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by Mem, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. Mem

    Mem
    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    8,087
    Likes Received:
    8
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    FL
    I was watching American Idol the other night and Simon said that one thing he found strange is how Americans are happy for others when something goes well in their lives. He was referring to the friends and family being joyous when a person gets thru to the next round of the show.
     
  2. paulobr79

    paulobr79 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2007
    Messages:
    270
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    8
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    UK
    Us Brits for whatever reason seem to find it hard to be happy for others. When you're up, there's always someone to bring us back down with a thud!!! Don't know why, that's just the way we are
     
  3. rimmer9

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2007
    Messages:
    1,286
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    67
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Midlands UK
    I think he was just making a general comment rather than a comparative one.
     
  4. Drifterwood

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2007
    Messages:
    15,724
    Likes Received:
    386
    Location:
    Fingringhoe (GB)
    It depends on the person, I think Mem.

    Dame kelly Holmes, double Olympic Gold Medalist, disadvataged childhood, injury difficulties, fought her way back, walks on water.

    City Yuppie, bags a £5 Mil bonus, probably not.
     
  5. Mem

    Mem
    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    8,087
    Likes Received:
    8
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    FL
    So in general it's true?
     
  6. Viking_UK

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Scotland
    I think it was more of a comment on the big emotional displays. Us Brits tend to be a bit more reserved in general - apart from the people who go in for things like X-Factor etc, where the displays are getting more flamboyant.

    As Drifterwood said, a lot of it is down to the person too. You see an arrogant, self-centred person and you think, "Do they really deserve this?" Then, you see someone else who has worked hard, put in the hours, has great talent, but doestn't strut and preen and you think, "Yeah. He or she does deserve it."
     
  7. London_Calling

    London_Calling New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2006
    Messages:
    134
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    London
    Us Brits are as happy for others' achievements as any other nation would be especially when it's a true talent.

    I think the saturation of reality TV shows that spew out untalented underachievers that we're all supposed to adore for the following week has probably made a lot of us a bit cynical when the term talent is used.

    Of course if I had a friend or family member on one of these 'talent' shows I'd be there to cheer them on & get all emotional however crap they were! :wink:
     
  8. Mem

    Mem
    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    8,087
    Likes Received:
    8
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    FL

    These are not the crap singers, it's the ones that made it thru to the next round.

    What I find strange is that anyone would question why family and friends would be thrilled about their loved ones success.

    I think Simon is cynical and not a great reflection on Brits.
     
  9. B_hugelymassivepenis

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    0
    Simon Cowell is playing a character, nothing more. If people are stupid enough to fall for it or react to it then he's too busy laughing at the whole game to notice. His 'persona' has made him millions

    If people genuinely do well, then British people DO celebrate it, depsite what Cowell says.
    If there's a habit of knocking celebs I'd say it's 1) healthy suspicion of the pointlessness of celebrity and 2) something shared by American culture - the reporting of Britney Spears recent troubles being just as vicious as any of the British tabloids.

    True talents or achievers are celebrated - Paul McCartney still holds a special place in British hearts.

    File it under the myth of bad teeth, bad food and rains all the time.
     
  10. Drifterwood

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2007
    Messages:
    15,724
    Likes Received:
    386
    Location:
    Fingringhoe (GB)
    It is something that is said about certain parts of our media, that they like nothing better than to build someone up, only then to bring them down again.

    I am not sure if it still like that.

    I also think Mr. Cowell has mixed the two. Probably had his pants pulled up too tight.

    So, no, I don't think that it is a generalisation that you can make.
     
  11. B_hugelymassivepenis

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    0
    But he's not MEANT to be a 'great reflection'.

    He's an invention of TV producers, no different to idiotic films like 'The Patriot' or any other national ego massaging. He's there to get a reaction - someone to hate who's from 'somewhere else'.

    If you fall for it, it's your problem, not ours.

    It's not like we voted him into power. Imagine if the worlds most unpopular mand had actually been voted into a job of represening a country!
     
  12. B_hugelymassivepenis

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    0
    Exactly - true talent has always been celebrated (giving the Beatles MBE's, Sir Paul McCartney, Sir Mick Jagger etc etc)

    The fact we rip apart people like Jade Goody (a former Big Brother contestant for those who may not know) and are horrified at being presented with her is one of the things that makes me love Britain so much.
     
  13. scottbud

    scottbud Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2007
    Messages:
    667
    Albums:
    2
    Likes Received:
    115
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    North Shore Auckland New Zealand
    I think the real question here is why is that shite show still on tv?
     
  14. London_Calling

    London_Calling New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2006
    Messages:
    134
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    London
     
  15. rimmer9

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2007
    Messages:
    1,286
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    67
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Midlands UK
    I'm with scottbud.
     
Draft saved Draft deleted