are females sexually repressed???

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Going along with this thread (www.lpsg.org/181030-are-women-as-visual-as.html) where I'm asking as part of research for an upcoming feature film...

I know that the women on this board are not but women: do you feel that women in our society are sexually repressed? In what ways (if any) are your female friends too repressed? In what ways are men repressed?

Thanks in advance all. Your wisdom is helping me out on this project.
 

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Just read through that thread. The level of thoughtfulness provided a very engaging read
 

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How can a guy determine that women is sexually repressed? For guys automatically thinking "No", talk to a woman first.
 

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I'm not even sure how to answer that question. Could you be more specific about what you're asking?

Are you looking for more MRI scan research that shows evidence of inhibition when exposed to sexual imagery, either visual or heard? I've already discussed the one done with visual imagery that found that none of the groups tested, male/female, straight/gay, exhibited inhibitory responses to pornography.
 
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I don't know either petite. Maybe it is just too broad of a subject to generalize.

As a male I know I feel repressed. I feel to be male means to be up tight, to be unemotional and detached. To wear drab clothing. Not to be creative. For me the answer is that living life in strict male (or female) roles is a mistake. That one must be balanced. According to Jung a male must nurture and encourage his inner feminine nature (and vice-versa) Anima and animus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This rings true with yoga traditions of balance as well.

I guess maybe I should have asked: how do you personally feel sexually repressed and in what ways (if any) do you cope with that?
 
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honestly in most Democracies or Represanative forms of Government women arn't repressed at all
in fact in the West people go far above and far beyond when it comes to trying to make women feel like they are powerful and make them excell, it's a little offsetting actually
try to make EVERYONE do well and women will automatically benefit
try to just make women do well and men are hindered
 

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honestly in most Democracies or Represanative forms of Government women arn't repressed at all
in fact in the West people go far above and far beyond when it comes to trying to make women feel like they are powerful and make them excell, it's a little offsetting actually
try to make EVERYONE do well and women will automatically benefit
try to just make women do well and men are hindered

How does western society make women feel in power?

Every picture of women on magazines and photo's are edited. To actually become like what they see in magaxines is virtually impossible.

showing curiosity in sex automatically labels them as as sluts.

They don't even have the freedom to sell their own bodies if they wanted to.
 

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I don't know either petite. Maybe it is just too broad of a subject to generalize.

As a male I know I feel repressed. I feel to be male means to be up tight, to be unemotional and detached. To wear drab clothing. Not to be creative. For me the answer is that living life in strict male (or female) roles is a mistake. That one must be balanced. According to Jung a male must nurture and encourage his inner feminine nature (and vice-versa) Anima and animus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This rings true with yoga traditions of balance as well.

I guess maybe I should have asked: how do you personally feel sexually repressed and in what ways (if any) do you cope with that?

Don't worry about that "masculine"/"feminine" bullshit. They're more like social constructs. Men and women are almost identical. Society really tears up apart with and tries to amplifies are small differences.


Masculinity is a sickness, its self-destructive...... in a way, femininity is too. Just be who you want to be.
 

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Masculinity is a sickness and self destructive? Only if you are over compensating for something. My Dad and Husband are very masculine, so is my father in law....there is nothing sick or self destructive about that.

Galaxus, you sound like an old bitter lesbian, after a while it gets a little embarrassing to have people saying things about the female gender as if we get trampled on all damn day. There are feminine whiles we use in this world that further us in some areas even further than men can get. We get a biased against us and for us depending on the situation. I don't see my plight as a female in 2010 in America to be having people constantly feel sorry for what i "have to endure constantly" in my day to day activities or in relationships.

Honestly the most disrespectful thing i've had said to me in a long time is FMH's shit he bathers on about pumpkin tits, sweet cheeks, fat thighs, big ass, etc when he's talking to us ladies.
 
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How does western society make women feel in power?

Every picture of women on magazines and photo's are edited. To actually become like what they see in magaxines is virtually impossible.

showing curiosity in sex automatically labels them as as sluts.

They don't even have the freedom to sell their own bodies if they wanted to.

Men don't have that freedom either, its downright illegal for both sexes. Let's also remember while the public sexual view of pornography and women is obviously catered more to males, i recommend going and reading a post i did called Sluts and Whores a couple of years ago. It says a lot as to why men feel the need to have porn deplayed in that way.

Men and Women aren't the same in many ways, the hormones that we have in our body that can be responsible for empathy and emotion, cuddling, breast feeding, ovulating, menopause, menstruation- you name it can affect the way we feel. Sexual response triggers entirely different parts of the brain.

Women play a role just as much in the perfection of editing photos to look perfect. It's not just because men assume we should be that way. Just like how many guys want a huge dick to impress other men and scare them off of their territory.

A lot of women also completely control their sexuality and the men around them. There is a lot of power bestowed upon women in their sexuality. I think some of this uber-hyper masculinity has something to do with men feeling like they have less control over women then women have over women. It's an over compensation honestly.

I don't want anyone feeling sorry because i am a female. I feel honored to get to carry a child in my womb, have breasts and use them not only to feed my baby one moment but stimulate my spouse with them. I feel honored to walk around in this world as a female. I don't feel like i was delt a poor deck of cards. Ask me a hundred years ago and i might say differently. We've come a long damn way and im pretty content about it to be honest.

And i forgot to add that when i have about 37 orgasms in one night, I'm all the more happy about being a female. Nature designed us to have some perks right along with the pain of childbirth and menstrual cramps.
 
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Masculinity is a sickness and self destructive? Only if you are over compensating for something. My Dad and Husband are very masculine, so is my father in law....there is nothing sick or self destructive about that.

Galaxus, you sound like an old bitter lesbian, after a while it gets a little embarrassing to have people saying things about the female gender as if we get trampled on all damn day. There are feminine whiles we use in this world that further us in some areas even further than men can get. We get a biased against us and for us depending on the situation. I don't see my plight as a female in 2010 in America to be having people constantly feel sorry for what i "have to endure constantly" in my day to day activities or in relationships.

Honestly the most disrespectful thing i've had said to me in a long time is FMH's shit he bathers on about pumpkin tits, sweet cheeks, fat thighs, big ass, etc when he's talking to us ladies.

What makes your Dad and husband masculine? There are good qualities in masculinity: Being strong, protective, tough, and the leader in situations.

To be honest I would love it if femininity had these qualities. I love women that have all of these things.

but i think of more bad qualities: being the center of attention, hypersexual, stubborness/not asking for help out of fear of showing weakness, fear of showing vulnerability in any way, loud, being stoic, trigger happy, and controlling.

EDIT: And a lot of men do overcompensate. But the men in your life probably aren't worried about that or their masculinity. Which is great. It probably makes them great people, not a Man's "Man".
 
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What makes your Dad and husband masculine? There are good qualities in masculinity: Being strong, protective, tough, and the leader in situations.

but i think of more bad qualities: being the center of attention, hypersexual, stubborness/not asking for help out of fear of showing weakness, for of showing vulnerability in any way, loud, being stoic, and controlling.

Every one of those good qualities can be present also in women, every one of those bad qualities can be present in women also. None of those are particularly gender specific.

I see nothing wrong if a guy doesn't want to ask for directions or doesn't cry at the same movies i do. If i wanted a guy to be just like me, i would have settled down with another woman. Some of these positive attributes are what makes relationships grand. My Dad, father in law and husband are very quiet men, they don't fish, hunt or watch any sports....they are no less masculine to the people around them for it.

Why can't we appreciate our differences also instead of insisting we all be the same? The spice of life and many enjoyments come out of being different. I was scared to have a daughter, i didnt know how i would be with her. I didn't have any experience with female to female relationships. When i put ponytails in her hair, or buy her something very pretty...or see her love on her dolls and enjoy being a motherly type figure...its really beautiful. I smile and almost cry sometimes when i see that i didnt make her that way- she is who she is.

When i see my nephew play in the mud or pick up frogs and put them in his pocket, i just smile and say "That's a boy for ya!" These things don't have to be programmed or hammered into a person. Some things are the way they are. My daughter likes gross stuff also, but she is also very feminine all at the same time.

She yawns just like my mom, sneezes like me, smiles like me but i hope she'd be left handed like me and have brown eyes but she didnt. Many things that make us who we are also have to do with things we have no control over.

You are from a generation that is teaching everyone to be so gender neutral that we can't even enjoy being a man or being a woman. There are multiple marriages i see in my life that are sheer hell because the female treats everyone in the household like shit. I see their husbands bow down and cater to them constantly, overly apologetic over things that wouldn't offend most people. They almost flinch if you move too quickly- women are JUST as likely to be complete tyrants and dictators to live with.

Who cares if a guy is stoic? I know females who are more rigid, militant and loud than most men i know. I think why i am not happy about some of the stuff i get in my inbox here at lpsg is that i would say 90% of men would never voice those things in my presence. If they are thinking it, they alteast have the decency to not tell me about it. And perception is reality, if you can control your thoughts by not behaving on them if they are destructive, then you are a pretty good person in life and probably aren't making people feel worthless.
 
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Men don't have that freedom either, its downright illegal for both sexes. Let's also remember while the public sexual view of pornography and women is obviously catered more to males, i recommend going and reading a post i did called Sluts and Whores a couple of years ago. It says a lot as to why men feel the need to have porn deplayed in that way.

Men and Women aren't the same in many ways, the hormones that we have in our body that can be responsible for empathy and emotion, cuddling, breast feeding, ovulating, menopause, menstruation- you name it can affect the way we feel. Sexual response triggers entirely different parts of the brain.

Women play a role just as much in the perfection of editing photos to look perfect. It's not just because men assume we should be that way. Just like how many guys want a huge dick to impress other men and scare them off of their territory.

A lot of women also completely control their sexuality and the men around them. There is a lot of power bestowed upon women in their sexuality. I think some of this uber-hyper masculinity has something to do with men feeling like they have less control over women then women have over women. It's an over compensation honestly.

I don't want anyone feeling sorry because i am a female. I feel honored to get to carry a child in my womb, have breasts and use them not only to feed my baby one moment but stimulate my spouse with them. I feel honored to walk around in this world as a female. I don't feel like i was delt a poor deck of cards. Ask me a hundred years ago and i might say differently. We've come a long damn way and im pretty content about it to be honest.

And i forgot to add that when i have about 37 orgasms in one night, I'm all the more happy about being a female. Nature designed us to have some perks right along with the pain of childbirth and menstrual cramps.

Most straight men can't sell their bodies to women. There's just not a demand for it.

And not every woman has power over their sexuality. Only attractive women do. Acttractive men can (and frequently) do the same thing to women.

And don't most of women in America live there lives without ever experiencing an orgasm? You may have great sex but there are plenty that don't and could care less.

We all have different privilages in different situations. I don't feel bad being black. I don't feel bad for you being a women. But i know in many situations, we're both disadvantaged.
 

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Every one of those good qualities can be present also in women, every one of those bad qualities can be present in women also. None of those are particularly gender specific.

I know everyone can have these qualities, but masculinity and femininity are restricted to those characteristics.

I see nothing wrong if a guy doesn't want to ask for directions or doesn't cry at the same movies i do. If i wanted a guy to be just like me, i would have settled down with another woman. Some of these positive attributes are what makes relationships grand. My Dad, father in law and husband are very quiet men, they don't fish, hunt or watch any sports....they are no less masculine to the people around them for it.

Like I said, if i found a woman with all the good masculine qualities plus the good feminine qualities, I found a great woman! not necessarily the most feminine woman.
 

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I know everyone can have these qualities, but masculinity and femininity are restricted to those characteristics.



Like I said, if i found a woman with all the good masculine qualities plus the good feminine qualities, I found a great woman! not necessarily the most feminine woman.

I'd like to consider myself very feminine, i met my husband (among many other guys i dated around this time) with a shaved head. I've talked to other women who have a shaved head and they admit to having more male attention than ever before. It says a lot about you when you can walk around with no hair. It says you are confident about who you are and you don't mind others not liking how you look.

I have super short hair now and only a couple of people have said something to me about not liking short hair on women. That's to be understood, i don't necessarily like long hair on a man either, but there are exceptions.

I am more aggressive in my personality than my husband, but we pair well together. My mom is pretty passive but married my Dad who is more assertive but not necessarily aggressive. I think i've seen good matches between people that don't fit the stereotypes of male/female but they are happy and fit together like a puzzle piece.

To be honest i think most of us have stereotypical male/female behavior somewhere. If you are a professional executive female, with short hair, choose not to have kids and you are very much a go getter and aggressive.....you might also cry at the end of Steel Magnolias. Both stereotypical male and female attributes.

We all have them, you just need to ask yourself what is a good match for you, not what society says you should find or be looking for. If you want to stay at home with the kids, there is nothing wrong with that. If she wants to stay home with the kids, there is nothing wrong with that either. Just find the right person for you and you will have a successful relationship because in spite of any disagreements you might have you counterbalance one another perfectly. I consider my husband to be an ideal masculine counterpart to my femininity.