are females sexually repressed???

[galaxus]

women are JUST as likely to be complete tyrants and dictators to live with.

just as likely? How many times to do you hear about the wife giving the husband a bloody nose and a broken arm? how many times do you hear about marital rape committed by the wife?

It can happen, but its nowhere near as frequent as bad husbands doing these things.

 

[galaxus]

I'd like to consider myself very feminine, i met my husband (among many other guys i dated around this time) with a shaved head. I've talked to other women who have a shaved head and they admit to having more male attention than ever before. It says a lot about you when you can walk around with no hair. It says you are confident about who you are and you don't mind others not liking how you look.

I have super short hair now and only a couple of people have said something to me about not liking short hair on women. That's to be understood, i don't necessarily like long hair on a man either, but there are exceptions.

I am more aggressive in my personality than my husband, but we pair well together. My mom is pretty passive but married my Dad who is more assertive but not necessarily aggressive. I think i've seen good matches between people that don't fit the stereotypes of male/female but they are happy and fit together like a puzzle piece.

To be honest i think most of us have stereotypical male/female behavior somewhere. If you are a professional executive female, with short hair, choose not to have kids and you are very much a go getter and aggressive.....you might also cry at the end of Steel Magnolias. Both stereotypical male and female attributes.

We all have them, you just need to ask yourself what is a good match for you, not what society says you should find or be looking for. If you want to stay at home with the kids, there is nothing wrong with that. If she wants to stay home with the kids, there is nothing wrong with that either. Just find the right person for you and you will have a successful relationship because in spite of any disagreements you might have you counterbalance one another perfectly. I consider my husband to be an ideal masculine counterpart to my femininity.

cool beans

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

just as likely? How many times to do you hear about the wife giving the husband a bloody nose and a broken arm? how many times do you hear about marital rape committed by the wife?

It can happen, but its nowhere near as frequent as bad husbands doing these things.

I dont know very many people who get beat by their husband. I have heard the marital rape thing, some women have admitted to lying about it others did get raped. I am not the one who can decide that, nor do i believe it is common.

But i do have several female child abusers in my family, the dads aren't the one giving the kids a bloody nose, but she is. I see verbal abuse also dished out by females.

There are far more men living in hell at home than women getting their arms broken. We nag, complain, argue and completely drive them nuts and if they at all get angry back we automatically scream about getting mistreated. We deny them any sexual pleasure and then get angry when they find someone else to sexually please them or harmlessly resort to jacking off at their office to porn.

This does not mean abuse does not happen, but there are a lot of good guys who got married to abusive bitches and they completely lose all semblance of a personality they once had. They are shadows and not even real people walking around- complete zombies that feel like shit all the time.

I am not sure if you are just spending time with abused women or taking classes from people who really do hate men...i have no idea but the abuse you are describing does not define a majority of a population or the norm. And because they don't fit the ideals of a normal society....everyone else should change who they are because of the fear of becoming a wife beater? A wife beater is a wife beater, he wasnt suddenly a violent person as soon as he got married most of the time.

I believe your comparison to physically abusive men to the point of getting punched in the face and your arms broken is no more prominant in society as children who are getting beaten at home, in fact, children are probably moreso getting abused. Should we not have children? Should everyone go through abuse classes when a majority of folks don't and wont become abusive?

You are using some pretty big extremes to define male and female relationships. Also, did you know the biggest culprit for infant/child murders are not from men but actually by their own mothers? It surprises me too and i read about a dead baby that was beaten/or whatever to death by their mom. Shouldn't we be more worried about this? Do women need to be counseled on not getting pregnant? How many guys throw a baby in a trashcan or leave it in the toilet to die? This is something the mother of the child is doing, not the father and not a random guy at all.

Some female creatures in nature actually eat their kids or starve their babies to death by not letting them nurse. Nature can be cruel but it is by no means isolated to the male gender. The male gender is not a public enemy. Men come from a woman and generally want to make women happy....we have a lot more to say about how men treat us by how we pick them or choose not to stay with them or even better, have more kids with them.

I used to take in abused dogs, let me tell you, i get fired up about abuse. It's a huge undertaking for the people who help abused people and abused animals no doubt. But we have to look at the world with an accurate view...i dont go around assuming all people who discipline their dogs are beating them. It takes a pretty sick person to starve a dog or break his wife's arms. Pretty sick indeed.

 

[galaxus]

Abuse isn't the norm, but it is prevalent.

You are using some pretty big extremes to define male and female relationships. Also, did you know the biggest culprit for infant/child murders are not from men but actually by their own mothers? It surprises me too and i read about a dead baby that was beaten/or whatever to death by their mom. Shouldn't we be more worried about this? Do women need to be counseled on not getting pregnant? How many guys throw a baby in a trashcan or leave it in the toilet to die? This is something the mother of the child is doing, not the father and not a random guy at all.

This is only true because the vast amount of single mothers in this country. A guy can knock you up and leave you just as quickly. He doesn't even have to know that he has a child to take care of.

The demands of a single mother can make some fragile women go crazy.

And IMHO, I do believe we all should seriously consider not having children. All us aren't' fit parents. A lot us aren't even mediocre parents.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

I believe since the egg comes from my body and i have the uterus it needs to grow inside of my body, it is my responsibility to pick a good person to have a child with. There are a lot of women having babies out of sheer carelessness. But there is nothing we can do to stop that from going on. So while we can feel sorry for her for getting knocked up, why arent we asking her why she wasnt using some method of birthcontrol to prevent an unwanted child?

So if we don't get pregnant by some guy who isnt going to stick around then when he leaves we arent stuck with babies. I don't see babies getting tossed in trashcans because of being a single mom. I am stressing the fact to you that there a lot of women who are horrible mothers and have killed a child or all oftheir children when they flip out or dont want the baby.

Single motherhood has nothing to do with how we treat our kids. Kids are being treated as best as they can be because their Mom loves them. Single motherhood is now the norm. It's not about a single mom flipping out and killing her kid. It's about a woman who has sociopathic tendencies killing her children. This has nothing to do with the father being around or not. The point is there are women who kill their babies and don't feel bad about it. Women are just as capable as violence, if not moreso when it comes to violent infant/toddler deaths.

 

[Drifterwood]

just as likely? How many times to do you hear about the wife giving the husband a bloody nose and a broken arm? how many times do you hear about marital rape committed by the wife?

It can happen, but its nowhere near as frequent as bad husbands doing these things.

The latest research from/in the UK is showing that domestic abuse runs pretty much 50/50.

 

[dirkjesje]

The latest research from/in the UK is showing that domestic abuse runs pretty much 50/50.

Then there are a lot of violent women in the UK.
Even if you count psychological abuse in ( women are strong in that domain ) - it s never going to be 50/50. Certainly not in my country.

 

[B_crackoff]

Then there are a lot of violent women in the UK.
Even if you count psychological abuse in ( women are strong in that domain ) - it s never going to be 50/50. Certainly not in my country.

I think Drifterwood is mentioning the largest ever DV survey, at least 150,000 commissioned by New Labour in 1997/8.

As I recall it came out that women & men instigated physical violence (or had) equally, about 33%. Most DV was natural mothers to their children, non biological fathers to their kids, Non biological mother figures to kids, then biological fathers.

New Labour promptly decided to disregard this evidence. So did the NSPCC, & since 2001 all the NSPCC adverts on TV show men as the primary abusers.

This led to almost all Father groups, F4J, FNF, rejecting the NSPCC, as it's solely now a politically agenda driven organisation peddling half truths.

Intuitive guesswork is substituted for policy driven by an enormous dataset.

This is all off topic though:smile:

 

[Drifterwood]

Then there are a lot of violent women in the UK.
Even if you count psychological abuse in ( women are strong in that domain ) - it s never going to be 50/50. Certainly not in my country.

There has been ongoing research since that mentioned by Crackoff, and Lady Scotland has been something of a patron to men's rights.

The last survey that I can recall found that physical abuse was 50/50 amongst the under 25s. The ratio does reduce as the age groups get older, but then there is massive under-reporting by both sexes.

This site Index will give you an idea of the real situation rather than the politically correct view that all women are wuvly and all men are bastards.

 

[galaxus]

There has been ongoing research since that mentioned by Crackoff, and Lady Scotland has been something of a patron to men's rights.

The last survey that I can recall found that physical abuse was 50/50 amongst the under 25s. The ratio does reduce as the age groups get older, but then there is massive under-reporting by both sexes.

This site Index will give you an idea of the real situation rather than the politically correct view that all women are wuvly and all men are bastards.

We look at this in my women's studies class too.

We were looking at a study conducted in the west about the statistics of domestic abuse.

They found at that , yes, women do get just as angry as men. In fact, in a a lot abusive situations men and women fight each other often. It was 50/50. But did any of you ever think about how the men described their abuse????

They found out that female abusers usually just throw things at the men. They recorded stories how women threw hairspray bottles, pillows, shoes, etc.... Think about that, can any of those things break a bone? tear the skin? leave a bruise? hardly not!

Do you know how the men responded? "Well she threw her shoe at me so I broke her nose." "Its not my fault that she bruises easily." :frown1::frown1::frown1:

Do you really think that's equal?

 

[galaxus]

Single motherhood has nothing to do with how we treat our kids. Kids are being treated as best as they can be because their Mom loves them. Single motherhood is now the norm. It's not about a single mom flipping out and killing her kid. It's about a woman who has sociopathic tendencies killing her children. This has nothing to do with the father being around or not. The point is there are women who kill their babies and don't feel bad about it. Women are just as capable as violence, if not moreso when it comes to violent infant/toddler deaths.

That's not the point at all. Are all women sociopaths? No.

We are all capable of killing our children. They're defenseless. Women/Single mothers and mothers are just more likely to murder their kids because because they are around their children more. The fathers are out of the picture.

And if the women are really sociopaths, it's also likely that are single.

 

[HiddenLacey]

I think that some women are repressed. I think it depends on how they were brought up and what is socially acceptable to them or their group of peers. People tend to be worried about what others think.
50/50 abuse? I read that on another post. I like what you said about the woman throwing the shoe and the guy breaking her nose because he was defending himself. Personally I know I couldn't break someones nose even if I hit them as hard as I could. I dont really consider throwing your shoe at someone abuse. I guess if you take it off and beat them with it it would fall under "abuse".... I have been in a situation with an abusive guy. There was a big difference in our stature's at the time. He could lift me up like I weighed nothing. Not saying that women are weak anytime your with someone and their bigger and stronger than you (male or female) they have the ability to hurt you if their crazy enough.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

We look at this in my women's studies class too.

We were looking at a study conducted in the west about the statistics of domestic abuse.

They found at that , yes, women do get just as angry as men. In fact, in a a lot abusive situations men and women fight each other often. It was 50/50. But did any of you ever think about how the men described their abuse????

They found out that female abusers usually just throw things at the men. They recorded stories how women threw hairspray bottles, pillows, shoes, etc.... Think about that, can any of those things break a bone? tear the skin? leave a bruise? hardly not!

Do you know how the men responded? "Well she threw her shoe at me so I broke her nose." "Its not my fault that she bruises easily." :frown1::frown1::frown1:

Do you really think that's equal?

Ahhh yes, that explains it. You used some specific keywords that definitely came from a women's study class setting...which is why i asked before where you were getting these ideas.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

That's not the point at all. Are all women sociopaths? No.

We are all capable of killing our children. They're defenseless. Women/Single mothers and mothers are just more likely to murder their kids because because they are around their children more. The fathers are out of the picture.

And if the women are really sociopaths, it's also likely that are single.

And just because one is single doesnt mean they are more likely to throw away their children. There are plenty of mothers that murder one or all of their children and have a husband at home....strangely a passive husband who takes up for them even though he had to burry his child.

Mental illness does not stem from being single. Being single is not a precursor to sociopathic or violent behavior. You are getting some pretty screwed up examples from college, they want you to believe that women are constantly living in fear of the bigger and stronger man. It's not the norm....i know of no stories that match up to the ones you are describing. How about if you know any of them in your personal life either? Because they are so rare.

Go to a PETA website and tell me they aren't quoting stats that are over inflated and off the wall comments about what meat does to the insides of your body, etc, etc in order to get you to believe what they believe.

I refuse to buy into any mindset where they have to throw a ton of stories and stats at me to get me to believe it. You see these groups that try to change everyone are also like the groups for breastfeeding is best, spanking is going to turn your child into a violent person, everyone should homeschool....they are all the same. Throwing out stats and stories no one can relate to in everyday life. Because the stories are really the mantra for peddling the belief system.

Throwing a shoe and getting a broken nose? I'm not buying it, maybe a few of your classmates have stories but they in no way represent an accurate demographic. I'm still nauseated over the masculinity is destructive comment. I just shake my head about that.

 

[galaxus]

I'm not saying the women broke a Guy's nose by throwing a shoe.

I'm saying the woman threw a shoe, the guy responded by breaking her nose.

I'm not saying that being a single mom makes you mentally ill. I'm saying being mentally ill makes you do crazy things, the relationship you try to make wont last because your crazy.

 

[galaxus]

I'm not saying the women broke a Guy's nose by throwing a shoe.

I'm saying the woman threw a shoe, the guy responded by breaking her nose.

I'm not saying that being a single mom makes you mentally ill. I'm saying being mentally ill makes you do crazy things, the relationship you try to make wont last because your crazy.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

I'm not saying the women broke a Guy's nose by throwing a shoe.

I'm saying the woman threw a shoe, the guy responded by breaking her nose.

I'm not saying that being a single mom makes you mentally ill. I'm saying being mentally ill makes you do crazy things, the relationship you try to make wont last because your crazy.

I'm not sure what i wrote, but i thought i said she threw a shoe and he broke her nose for it. Ask yourself, would i do that? Do i know any guys personally that would react that way? Did my Dad do that? How about my brothers, male cousins or Grandpas? If they didnt and most people you know say they didn't in their family either....a majority of men aren't walking around puffing their chests out looking for a woman to take their anger out on.

While men have had a reputation of running off when responsibilities, such as a child, come into their life if they are immature....there are obviously women on the other side of that relationship picking men to have unprotected sex with and make babies. To not use birth control is to plan for a baby and i've asked women "Did you use birth control" and they often say "Well....no" and what about the countless numbers of women who get pregnant to trap a guy and when it doesnt work they are left to hold all of the broken pieces together.

Guys need to be keeping track of where their sperm is and the women need to be watching out for their eggs and who is fertilizing them. While birthcontrol fails and we can't predict everything about a guy we picked, most things in life are pretty predictible. If a guy isnt a good boyfriend, he probably won't be a good dad either.

 

[Drifterwood]

We look at this in my women's studies class too.

We were looking at a study conducted in the west about the statistics of domestic abuse.

Do you really think that's equal?

Scenarios in a class are not the same as experience.

I have three close friends (I would say I have ten men in total in that bracket) who are and have been the victims of DV. Two I only learnt of fifteen years after the events. She used to throw heavy objects and when she started throwing the kitchen knives, he knew he had to leave. He never once retalliated. Another, 6'4 250 Llbs was knocked unconscious by his ex wife with the iron on the back of his head.

The other is currently being subjected to extreme financial, and emotional abuse and intimidation. I am trying to help him, but he is finding it hard to admit it to himself.

Some women feel entitled to treat men like dogshit, Galaxus. I would strongly advise young men to be aware of this.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Scenarios in a class are not the same as experience.

I have three close friends (I would say I have ten men in total in that bracket) who are and have been the victims of DV. Two I only learnt of fifteen years after the events. She used to throw heavy objects and when she started throwing the kitchen knives, he knew he had to leave. He never once retalliated. Another, 6'4 250 Llbs was knocked unconscious by his ex wife with the iron on the back of his head.

The other is currently being subjected to extreme financial, and emotional abuse and intimidation. I am trying to help him, but he is finding it hard to admit it to himself.

Some women feel entitled to treat men like dogshit, Galaxus. I would strongly advise young men to be aware of this.

Difter, that's a very good point. I have several men in my family who put up with extreme abuse to that degree. I have lost relationship with many of them just trying to tell them they need to get themselves and their kids out and FAST.

 

[Drifterwood]

Difter, that's a very good point. I have several men in my family who put up with extreme abuse to that degree. I have lost relationship with many of them just trying to tell them they need to get themselves and their kids out and FAST.

Sadly in the UK, it is almost impossible for the men to get the kids out. This fact then ends up being another tool of abuse used against them. They stay for the kids and suffer, or leave and face horrendous guilt and poverty.