Are Male Rape Fantacies Unethical or Immoral?

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Oh. It's good to see that the idiocy of this place can be counted on. + 9000 for each of your posts

Rape fantasy: no harm no foul

But that isn't what you were asking, and the sneaky way you did not include that in your thread, counting on the lazy and stupid amongst the sheeple to only read the thread title and no further is underhanded.

As a surveyor of rape, the idea of rape fantasies is a topic I struggle with. They can be hot. No denying. But when I have them they are either complete brutality free or con non con. Things like that can be hot. Other times I get oogy thinking about it. I can't watch it. I can read some.

Thing is, you, OP, are not really fantasizing, well not about fictional accounts. You are almost fetishizing actual torment and pain. That's fucking sick. Seek help. The way I see it, you are one step from wanting to watch it happen, to then holding the victim down, to doing the crime yourself.

And for the. Complete morons who seem to think that there is no comparison between raping an adult or molesting a child? Holy fuck, what the he'll are you on?!

I had, when I was first here, a blog detailing my rape. I never thought I would be glad to see my blogs permanently deleted tilll now. The thought of some sick bastard getting off on my pain and anguish is so repulsive as to be nigh indescribable.

Thank the gods there are people here who can fucking read, and comprehend what the OP was asking.

And to e OP, do I think your fantasizing about real abuse is sick, wrong, immoral and unethical? damn skippy I do. Get yourself some help, before you start skidding down that slope.


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I'd say that rape fantasies are not all that different from fantasies of violence and murder, and Hollywood films are overflowing with these, which are thoroughly enjoyed by the majority of the population. So I'd say anybody who claims that rape fantasies are wrong or immorral should probably think twice the next time they are about to pay money to watch a movie containing fantasized murder and violence.
 

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Thanks ML
was going to give an extensive report of a young man, raped by his best friend.AND the assholes 2 mates, American college student actually, no reason to disbelieve him at all, especially as he partially chose a Monastic life, to get over the criminality and betrayal involved
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Wont divulge now, feeding fantasies.......

lpsg Mods, hope yr monitoring the thread vigilantly
 

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Thanks ML
was going to give an extensive report of a young man, raped by his best friend.AND the assholes 2 mates, American college student actually, no reason to disbelieve him at all, especially as he partially chose a Monastic life, to get over the criminality and betrayal involved
Talented guy
Wont divulge now, feeding fantasies.......

lpsg Mods, hope yr monitoring the thread vigilantly

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Are ye fucking serious?
I'd say that rape fantasies are not all that different from fantasies of violence and murder, and Hollywood films are overflowing with these, which are thoroughly enjoyed by the majority of the population. So I'd say anybody who claims that rape fantasies are wrong or immorral should probably think twice the next time they are about to pay money to watch a movie containing fantasized murder and violence.
FFS, did ya not even attempt to read my post? I have nothing against rape FANTASY, in the form of purely fictitious fantasy. It is not always my cuppa tea, indeed it rarely is, but i have no issue with those that have them or enjoy them more than I do. What I (and anyone with half a brain cell and over third grade reading comprehension) have a problem with is that the OP likes to get off on REAL LIFE reports of rape. I have bolded the relevant parts to aid you in your obvious lack of basic understanding.
Oh. It's good to see that the idiocy of this place can be counted on. + 9000 for each of your posts

Rape fantasy: no harm no foul

But that isn't what you were asking, and the sneaky way you did not include that in your thread, counting on the lazy and stupid amongst the sheeple to only read the thread title and no further is underhanded.

As a surveyor of rape, the idea of rape fantasies is a topic I struggle with. They can be hot. No denying. But when I have them they are either complete brutality free or con non con. Things like that can be hot. Other times I get oogy thinking about it. I can't watch it. I can read some.

Thing is, you, OP, are not really fantasizing, well not about fictional accounts. You are almost fetishizing actual torment and pain. That's fucking sick. Seek help. The way I see it, you are one step from wanting to watch it happen, to then holding the victim down, to doing the crime yourself.

And for the. Complete morons who seem to think that there is no comparison between raping an adult or molesting a child? Holy fuck, what the he'll are you on?!

I had, when I was first here, a blog detailing my rape. I never thought I would be glad to see my blogs permanently deleted tilll now. The thought of some sick bastard getting off on my pain and anguish is so repulsive as to be nigh indescribable.

Thank the gods there are people here who can fucking read, and comprehend what the OP was asking.

And to e OP, do I think your fantasizing about real abuse is sick, wrong, immoral and unethical? damn skippy I do. Get yourself some help, before you start skidding down that slope.
And to show you want i man, since you OBVIOULY didn't read the OP's opening volley...

Iran giving out condoms for criminals to rape us, say jailed activists | World news | The Guardian

Prison Rape and Sexual Slavery- My Story - Prison Talk

Prison Rape Survivor Stories - Stop Prisoner Rape

Turned Out: Sexual Assault Behind Bars (2004) - IMDb


I don't accept the common claim that anything consenting adults like or do is legitimate on the grounds of "personal choice" -- my critique of that idea will have to explained elsewhere -- even while I'd advocate a legal right to engage in nearly anything that doesn't impose upon others.

So is one of my main sources of titillation immoral or unethical? I get a major sadistic thrill out of accounts of adult men raped and made into sex-slaves by other men in prison. I'm appalled by the idea of adults attacking minors or women; and fictional accounts don't interest me at all. But I've gathered scores of detailed recollections of all sorts of men who are forced to submit to other men, some of them involving real brutality. The links are just a few examples. Yet the idea of my enjoying other real people's suffering is disturbing to me. Is this unethical, or should I just say that this is my own "choice" and business, I don't comment such abuses myself, and dismiss any examination of what's behind "personal choice" as so many others do?

I'd say I'm an otherwise very ethical human being.
Do you see the reality of what he is asking?

As for your comparison to movies: Again rape fantasy is fine. if it is a fantasy about fictional events. When it crosses over to the non fictional, that is where things get wonky. Movie violence and enjoying slasher films are fine. Getting an adrenaline rush from fantasizing about participating in actual torment and murder, not so much. I don't think anyone would be defending a person if they said "Yeah, I like watching and reading detailed accounts of the Nazi death camps, then fantasize that I am the ones torturing and killing the Jews, gays, and other 'undesirables.'"

Cuz guess what, that is basically what the OP is saying, he is pretty much saying "I get hot and bothered thinking about how much pain and humiliation these men suffered through. I really enjoy it if there is irrevocable harm done. The thought of blood, a perforated colon, and the a teeth knocked in get me hard. I secretly identify with them. Is that wrong?"

Again to answer: Yes. It is.

The OP needs therapy.

You need reading comp classes.

Oh And to TSgirls and Dragon: I loves ya too! Glad to see neither of you, CharlesFinn, ML or others, were letting this slide.
 

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/24/jailed-iran-opposition-activists-rape the idea of my enjoying other real people's suffering is disturbing to me. Is this unethical, or should I just say that this is my own "choice" and business, I don't comment such abuses myself, and dismiss any examination of what's behind "personal choice" as so many others do?

I'd say I'm an otherwise very ethical human being.

Thanks for your honesty and it was a considered post, nevertheless it is disturbing. Any non consenting sexual act is about power and violence. I genuinely believe that no one would want to experience that in actuality. However, I am against in the idea of a thought police, either one that is imposed from within in the form of self censorship or from outside. Every idea is discussable, if only if it is to provide the necessary 'reality check'.
 
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I am a bad bad forum user and didn't properly read the OP. Yes, getting your rocks off from actual rape is bad, mmmkay?
 

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Thanks for your honesty and it was a considered post, nevertheless it is disturbing. Any non consenting sexual act is about power and violence. I genuinely believe that no one would want to experience that in actuality. However, I am against in the idea of a thought police, either one that is imposed from within in the form of self censorship or from outside. Every idea is discussable, if only if it is to provide the necessary 'reality check'.
:rolleyes:
I am a bad bad forum user and didn't properly read the OP. Yes, getting your rocks off from actual rape is bad, mmmkay?
Glad ya admit it :wink:
 

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Is it possible the OP is posting this confessional with an ulterior motive of wishing to be admonished? Is that also what he seeks? A confirmation that it is wrong? And perhaps to feed on that, too?

Motives are not always what they seem to be, even in our own minds.
 

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Is it possible the OP is posting this confessional with an ulterior motive of wishing to be admonished? Is that also what he seeks? A confirmation that it is wrong? And perhaps to feed on that, too?

Motives are not always what they seem to be, even in our own minds.
Could be. I am in favor of reporting to the mods about this thread and getting him to stop. I can't do so cuz i engaged, but you could :biggrin1: I know I shouldn't feed into his sickness, but at the same time i couldn't let others COMPLETELY freaking miss what he was saying. And he di it in such a creeptastic way.

I hope he gets help. And seriously glad for the one and only time, that my blogs went bye bye. the thought of him wanking to my painful memory *barf* I can too easily see him contemplating actually raping someone, and with his thing about liking the real brutal stuff *shudders* But yer right, I should keep in mind that he may have some other motive. It hadn't occurred to me. :redface:

He may indeed, to be sure.

I would err on the side of not letting his obvious intent slip through the cracks.

Just my .02.

Well you caught something I didn't. I'm not sure though that I, or you are right in the not letting things slip by. Now that i think of it, if RB is right, and I was inadvertently feeding into a sick psycho-sexual drama of his...ugh! I shoulda gone to thee mods first...maybe, lol Now i am wondering if the whole thing wasn't a ruse. Like, did he just say that to get the admonishment? What if the whole thing is all smoke and mirrors? Fuck a duck,i had forgotten the weirdness that inhabits this place! lol
 
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Fantasies are incapable of harming anyone; not the fantasizer, certainly not anyone else. By that fact, they can neither be ethical or unethical.

Morality is an amalgamation of custom and prejudice derived more from human insecurity than logic or reason. What thinking person gives a flying fuck in the air about what's immoral and what's not?
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