Are straight men envious of gay men?

[Smaccoms]

That's idiotic. Everyone KNOWS people they don't like. It's unavoidable.


Apparently you did, since you don't know anyone you don't like.

My point is if you don't like them that intensely, then cease "knowing" them. You have a choice. I don't see any legitimate complaint here...

 

[Smaccoms]

I said my woman not women in general. Easy on the name calling friend.

Oh I see; your a dick and I fucking hate you. DO NOT CALL ME YOUR FRIEND!

 

[B_Nick8]

Oh I see; your a dick and I fucking hate you. DO NOT CALL ME YOUR FRIEND!

I don't know why you have such a problem with someone who specifically said that his girlfriend made as much money as he did (which is how I read his initial post), not all women, and then went on to clarify himself after you misunderstood him and called him a dumb shit. Nor do I see why you're continuing to up the ante with this post when it appears to me he's trying to be conciliatory (as, again, he was initially when he expressed no desire to offend). Unless there's something I'm missing here, I think maybe you need to chill a bit.

 

[Smaccoms]

I don't know why you have such a problem with someone who specifically said that his girlfriend made as much money as he did (which is how I read his initial post), not all women, and then went on to clarify himself after you misunderstood him and called him a dumb shit. Nor do I see why you're continuing to up the ante with this post when it appears to me he's trying to be conciliatory (as, again, he was initially when he expressed no desire to offend). Unless there's something I'm missing here, I think maybe you need to chill a bit.

I don't know why, but I felt so affronted this was my natural reaction.

Now that I've had some time to cool-down, I'm not so sure how I feel about it anymore...

 

[hungboy18]

I think gay man are more alive, maybe, maybe not, because we sorta let the little things go, we are more in tune with our feelings, because we're not afraid of them, by dating another men it will also be easer to do things, we will be more equal, that helps too.

Yeah sometimes gay men have more money, maybe because they are more driven, because let's face it, the world pretty much lets us know we're different, to put it nicely, that makes us work hard, to prove ourselves, to provide for ourselves, at least that's how I feel, I want to be able to provide for myself, to be happy, and I'm not looking for my better half to do that, I wanna settle, but I want to be me before that.

In a way we have some of the best attributes of a man and a woman in one, obviously we are flawed, but we go trough so much shit because people are ignorant, that sure leaves a few scars.

 

[hungboy18]

Even if I were gay, I'd still be straight.

how so?

 

[D_Sam Rockswell]

So this question an immediately thought no. Then i thought about it a little more and yes...i kinda am. (Holy shittles....just went back an looked at a bit of this thread. Seriously guys? I mean really? ahh F it)

Anyway, i feel that emotionality (thats not a word durr lol) is a bit more accepted in the gay community. If your a straight male in an area dominated by the idea of male domination and all you really wanna do is cuddle then ya might wanna put on your lonely pants an get ready for a good ole session of sports/gaming/porn/tools/cars/or whatever it is that ya do. lol

 

[D_Shia LePoof]

Im not! Bi men have open fun

 

[matchbox]

More sex possibly. More disposable income? Dont see how unless your saying women are expensive. Which I suppose is true if you the type to lavish them with gifts (which im not).

i totally agree with you

 

[travis1985]

Then again, more straight men than gay men have families to support. Compare two men with similar jobs and salaries. One only has to provide for himself, while the other heads a family of four. Which of these two guys is probably going to have more disposable income?

 

[Drifterwood]

I meant to post some thoughts on this thread a while ago and have to admit that I have not read all the posts in between.

This makes for some interesting reading and I am taking the research at face value.

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It's a dangerous road if people start being envious particularly in difficult financial times, and I would point out that people without children, whatever their orientation, pay a lot of their tax for the benefit of other people's kids.

I think anyone who is jealous or envious should rather be asking the question do my life choices demand an acceptable commitment that perhaps impacts on other things that I may have wished to have done. I have no doubt that if you make a commitment in one direction this will impact your ability to commit in another. This no doubt makes for some tough times for family people, but the answer is not to bitch about people who didn't make the same choices as you.

 

[D_Luke_DickStalker]

Don't think so

 

[B_jeepguy2]

I think maybe some do once they get married and realize what they have gotten themselves into. Several years into the marriage many guys find themselves stuck with a bitchy wife who no longer wants sex, or has gained so much weight that he no longer wants to have sex with her if she is willing.

Add to that a couple of curtain climbers who take all of his money and his wife's attention. The dude finds himself in a hopeless situation where he is working his ass off to pay for a house, the wife's SUV, to feed and clothe the kids, and to put money away for their college. He is basicly housemates with a woman he is no longer particularly attracted to, never gets laid anymore, and inevitably starts thinking why in the fuck did I ever do this? I could have just watched some porn, jacked off, and shot the load in a kleenex...or gotten a guy to suck it. LOL

I was having lunch with one of my straight married friends recently and told me how nice it was going to be that weekend since his wife and the kid had gone to visit mother in another state. He said "I am going to have the house all to myself and I am going to turn the lights off light a few candles and have a nice romantic stroke session." He then said "after being married for two years I can see now why so many guys are switch hitters these days" and then he laughed. I am pretty sure he knows I am gay because we have been friends for 10 years and he knows I have never had a gf or a wife.

I started to suggest that I come over and we could drink a few beers but I decided not to go there.

 

[B_jeepguy2]

Sometimes I wish I was gay. I think it would be much easier to to casually have sex.

Not really. A lot of queens are picky as hell. If you don't look like an Abercrombie and Fitch model you are gonna have a hell of a time hookin up with dudes. Once you are over 30 and going a little gray it gets even harder. Over 40 forget it.

If you have a really big dick it will sometimes make up for all of these deficiencies.

 

[rob_just_rob]

Yeah, I really wish I could be discriminated against, have my orientation used as a negative slur through grade school and high school, be stereotyped in the media, be randomly bashed by bigots, and (depending on jurisdiction) have my relationships considered to be second class, or not legally recognized. Where do I sign up?

 

[Smaccoms]

Not really. A lot of queens are picky as hell. If you don't look like an Abercrombie and Fitch model you are gonna have a hell of a time hookin up with dudes. Once you are over 30 and going a little gray it gets even harder. Over 40 forget it.

If you have a really big dick it will sometimes make up for all of these deficiencies.

OMG, fuckin' awful right? I consider myself an attractive man, but I swear other gay men look straight down to my STOMACH, and I can SEE the judgement (OH SHIT HE AINT ANOREXIC!) in their fuckin face!

The big dick is true though; massively big dicks have this seductive power I do not understand...I do like older men though. I would say 1/3 to 1/2 of my sex life has occurred with older men.

I love hot men in their early 30's...

 

[D_Colon Farrell]

This post keeps popping up so I decided to chime in on it too. Maybe I'm old fashioned but why would I be envious of someone who is something that I don't want to be? I'm not married, don't have any kids or an ex-wife and live my life as I please. I don't know if gay guys have it better than me or not but I'm not envious of them. I'm comfortable in my place in life.

To be honest I don't see the point in being overly envious of anyone else, if you want your life to be different and/or similar to someone elses then focus up and work to change it. Sure I can't live large like a millionare but I can have a lot of fun within my means. No doubt I've done a lot of things that Donald Trump hasn't and I wouldn't trade those experiences for his world.

I'm sure gay guys live as good as straights but with some different experiences. Not to sound like I just stepped outta a V-dub bus in a billow of purple haze but: If we all focused on being the best we could be and less on envying everyone else the world would be a better place.

Peace!

 

[Zayne]

how so?

I have a phobia of other people's excrement. I guess I would just abstain from sex, altogether.

 

[Smaccoms]

I have a phobia of other people's excrement. I guess I would just abstain from sex, altogether.

Contrary to popular belief, not all gay men love anal play. Some go through a lot of effort to have "clean" anal whenever they play. One cannot, however abstain from sex indefinitely. It is altogether far too unhealthy, and the body reacts violently after long enough periods of time (especially in the prime).

What I'm trying to say, the "gay" version of yourself (in an alternate universe) would eventually work someway around your phobia, or find another way to have sex with men altogether. I've had plenty of gay sex without anal play!

 

[justacynic]

In conversation with many of my straight male friends it would seem that straight men think gay men have a lot more sex, more disposable income, much more freedom to pick and choose what they do with their spare time.
Do you as a straight man agree? As a gay man do you agree?

If it hasn't been mentioned, there was an episode of Will & Grace where a couple of straight guys are talking to Will about being gay. One says to Will, "I bet you have lots of sex, huh?" The other guy says, "Yeah, you must get it all the time!" Will says, "Actually, I probably don't have sex anymore often than you both do." The two guys walk away with expressions of disgust/annoyance and one says, "What's the point then?"

I enjoyed the show from time to time but that segment had me rolling on the floor because I think it nails straight beliefs about gay men so well! LOL

In answer to the post: Yes, as a straight man I generally agree but am aware it is not true.