Are Sugars Even Real?

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Wonders...Who will be my new sugar daddy!? :biggrin1:
Requirements:
-Very old, preferably over 80
-No offsprings, and wives (he could be a widower, though)
-At least 2 million in a bank! (lets be real, you can`t buy a lot for a mil these days)
-No dogs, I`m a cat person
-An appartment in NY and a cottage in Hamptons ( I really don`t fancy the West Side)
-Oh, and he must be into really fat eastern-europeans with a fake British accent. :smile:
There must be more, I really don`t want to look cheap....I`ll write it later! :tongue::biggrin1:
 
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Bbucko your post reminded me of when I was in Palm Beach and met a client and his wife for dinner at whatever the "in restaurant" is on Worth Avenue. I was wearing a fine suit and carrying a fine brief case as we were discussing business over dinner. I was wearing a really snazzy watch too and every woman under 50 was eying me like a bird of prey.
One woman was so blatant that I finally had to say to her... "Honey you and I are looking for the same man!"

I've found life to be so much easier earning my own money. I learned from my father in college... "If someone is giving you money they can tell you how to spend it." I've been a man of my own means since that conversation.
 

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Bbucko your post reminded me of when I was in Palm Beach and met a client and his wife for dinner at whatever the "in restaurant" is on Worth Avenue. I was wearing a fine suit and carrying a fine brief case as we were discussing business over dinner. I was wearing a really snazzy watch too and every woman under 50 was eying me like a bird of prey.
One woman was so blatant that I finally had to say to her... "Honey you and I are looking for the same man!"

I've found life to be so much easier earning my own money. I learned from my father in college... "If someone is giving you money they can tell you how to spend it." I've been a man of my own means since that conversation.
Interesting....Do you have any properties in the Hamptons? :confused:
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If I were enlightened myself I would be glad to oblige.

I confess that I am hampered by a stereotype where there is at least a decent if not significant age gap between the older man and younger woman. How big a gap? Maybe - old enough to be her father - thus the use of the word daddy.

You did not even have a double digit age gap and (enjoy the youth while you can) 32 is just a little too young to be a daddy.
Daddy implies older and old.
How old?
Probably at least 40 and definitely experiencing a midlife crisis.
I usually think at over 50 and requiring viagra.
Think Hefner.

Interesting theory:smile:
 

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Bbucko your post reminded me of when I was in Palm Beach and met a client and his wife for dinner at whatever the "in restaurant" is on Worth Avenue. I was wearing a fine suit and carrying a fine brief case as we were discussing business over dinner. I was wearing a really snazzy watch too and every woman under 50 was eying me like a bird of prey.
One woman was so blatant that I finally had to say to her... "Honey you and I are looking for the same man!"

I've found life to be so much easier earning my own money. I learned from my father in college... "If someone is giving you money they can tell you how to spend it." I've been a man of my own means since that conversation.

I've been to that restaurant, I think :biggrin1:

This whole "Sugar" thing is part of the scene here; in Palm Beach and SoBe it's more "upscale", in Broward or the Keys it's a survival mechanism as I described above. I've been pursued by more than one guy who's offered to "take care" of me (even now), but I've never, ever married for money, and nothing's a greater boner-killer than financial considerations for me. Perhaps if I were a bottom I'd consider it, but deep down it's too embedded in my code of ethics, I think, to behave otherwise.

While looking for a career job when I first moved here in '03, I took a subsistence job as the night manager of a place that billed itself as the "Largest Gay & Lesbian Superstore"; in reality it was a sex shop that also sold CDs, books, and clothing, both new and "vintage". One of my many jobs was to negotiate the price paid by the store for "vintage" (re: used) clothing. Desperate guys would come in with bags full of expensive, practically-new jeans and shirts which I'd buy for dimes on the dollar, generally to fuel their drug habits.

One of my first encounters doing this was with a man in his mid-50s and his ~25ish BoyToy, who'd obviously rather have been anywhere else in the world. Instead of the usual plastic shopping bag, he arrived with two suitcases filled with Diesel apparel, all seemingly brand-new. I tried to be fair, but I knew my boss (the store owner) would pitch a fit if I paid out too much, which in the end I probably did, handing the kid about $150 for a couple of thousands of dollars worth of stuff. The older man was cool but resolute, the BoyToy in tears but grateful for the cash. I had the feeling I was watching a kick-to-the-curb in slo-mo and felt like I needed a shower when it was done.

Of course, the bar where I currently work gives me a front-row seat to this sort of thing all the time, at all stages. The "boys" (some quite long on the tooth) are ever-vigilant for daddies, drugs or both; the daddies look for their best bargains amongst the lot. It's a depressing spectacle, but more to the point one that I'd believed inoculated me from involvement in such a tawdry mess. Discovering that I've morphed into "daddy" was just mortifying!
 

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I've been to that restaurant, I think :biggrin1:
I honestly could not remember. I looked it up... Ta-boo Restaurant | Palm Beach's Legendary American Bistro & Bar
This whole "Sugar" thing is part of the scene here; in Palm Beach and SoBe it's more "upscale", in Broward or the Keys it's a survival mechanism as I described above. I've been pursued by more than one guy who's offered to "take care" of me (even now), but I've never, ever married for money, and nothing's a greater boner-killer than financial considerations for me. Perhaps if I were a bottom I'd consider it, but deep down it's too embedded in my code of ethics, I think, to behave otherwise.

While looking for a career job when I first moved here in '03, I took a subsistence job as the night manager of a place that billed itself as the "Largest Gay & Lesbian Superstore"; in reality it was a sex shop that also sold CDs, books, and clothing, both new and "vintage". One of my many jobs was to negotiate the price paid by the store for "vintage" (re: used) clothing. Desperate guys would come in with bags full of expensive, practically-new jeans and shirts which I'd buy for dimes on the dollar, generally to fuel their drug habits.

One of my first encounters doing this was with a man in his mid-50s and his ~25ish BoyToy, who'd obviously rather have been anywhere else in the world. Instead of the usual plastic shopping bag, he arrived with two suitcases filled with Diesel apparel, all seemingly brand-new. I tried to be fair, but I knew my boss (the store owner) would pitch a fit if I paid out too much, which in the end I probably did, handing the kid about $150 for a couple of thousands of dollars worth of stuff. The older man was cool but resolute, the BoyToy in tears but grateful for the cash. I had the feeling I was watching a kick-to-the-curb in slo-mo and felt like I needed a shower when it was done.
This story made me very sad.
Of course, the bar where I currently work gives me a front-row seat to this sort of thing all the time, at all stages. The "boys" (some quite long on the tooth) are ever-vigilant for daddies, drugs or both; the daddies look for their best bargains amongst the lot. It's a depressing spectacle, but more to the point one that I'd believed inoculated me from involvement in such a tawdry mess. Discovering that I've morphed into "daddy" was just mortifying!

Someone called me Papi once in
PR and I wanted to set my hair on fire and run into the ocean!
 

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I suppose I'm a sugar daddy. I'm 63 she's 26. :wink: Been together for 5 years now. When I first met her she was working 3 jobs, including as an exotic dancer, and had little time to see me. So I offered to pay her $5000 a month plus house and cars, so that she only needed to do one job and could see me.

But, I wanted her love. I didn't want her to stay in a relationship with me because she depended financially on me. So after two years and things were going well I gave her a large enough portfolio of investments to make her financially independent. And I said she was free to go her own way if she chose.

She chose to stay. Our relationship has flourished. Best relationship of my life. :biggrin1:
 

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I suppose I'm a sugar daddy. I'm 63 she's 26. :wink: Been together for 5 years now. When I first met her she was working 3 jobs, including as an exotic dancer, and had little time to see me. So I offered to pay her $5000 a month plus house and cars, so that she only needed to do one job and could see me.

But, I wanted her love. I didn't want her to stay in a relationship with me because she depended financially on me. So after two years and things were going well I gave her a large enough portfolio of investments to make her financially independent. And I said she was free to go her own way if she chose.

She chose to stay. Our relationship has flourished. Best relationship of my life. :biggrin1:

I think that your situation may be the exception to the norm and it certainly says a great deal about the two of you.
à votre santé.
 

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I suppose I'm a sugar daddy. I'm 63 she's 26. :wink: Been together for 5 years now. When I first met her she was working 3 jobs, including as an exotic dancer, and had little time to see me. So I offered to pay her $5000 a month plus house and cars, so that she only needed to do one job and could see me.

But, I wanted her love. I didn't want her to stay in a relationship with me because she depended financially on me. So after two years and things were going well I gave her a large enough portfolio of investments to make her financially independent. And I said she was free to go her own way if she chose.

She chose to stay. Our relationship has flourished. Best relationship of my life. :biggrin1:

This is what I mean...:biggrin1:..

I'm so envious right now :wink:
 

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He owns shit :biggrin1:..

Women who feel that they can't live without his money..may feel that way..but if all else failed I would still be able to take care of myself. If I would choose to be with a sugarman and be exclusive to him..its because i choose the lifestyle and him..not because he thinks he owns me.

I think I understand what you're saying - you're saying that you would only do such a thing if you actually liked the guy involved, right?

I sort of agree. I would have to have at least some liking for him to be able to give him what he wanted. But I do think he would 'own' me. Not literally of course, but whether there's a written contract or not, you've contracted to give him certain things. And you have a responsibility to give him what he's paid for.


All the guys are suddenly saying this is prostitution etc etc.. yeah well maybe it is..just like any other kind of arrangement where you give your body in order to get...attention, love..whatever..

I think it IS prostitution. And in a fairly straight forward way. After all, you are exchanging money for services. But I don't see that as a bad thing.


Its always something..we are either sluts for giving it up too fast, too easy or for nothing.. or we are prostitutes because we are enjoying the fruits of the attention given..:rolleyes:

Attention and money are two different things. I think your views may stem from a difference in the way you are using the term 'sugar daddy' compared to the way some others use it.

I use it to mean 'an older man who gives a younger woman money in exchange for sex and/or time and friendliness'. I know some people just apply it to any relationship where the man is significantly older than the woman. The second definition has nothing to do with prostitution, except in the way that any relationship is prostitution of a sort.
 

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hahahaha..LOL.. yes I have to be really into him..

This means..he has to be single, not too old, i have to feel attracted to him this all combined with a man that is rich and into me..LOL :)

Not going to happen..

I know it..i know it..

But a woman can dream can't she ;-)...

Oh and by the way if one wants to call all of this prostituting oneself..than so be it. I have nothing against prostitutes or the act of prostitution..As long as no one is forced to do this.
 

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I'd have to LOVE the guy. I would like the financial security but I'd be bored with a rich man I didn't love. I don't need expensive gifts, fancy clothes or the 'high life' - I can't think of anything more boring that being part of the 'social pages' crowd. I could only put up with 'the scene' if I loved spending time with him.
 
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I'd have to LOVE the guy. I would like the financial security but I'd be bored with a rich man I didn't love. I don't need expensive gifts, fancy clothes or the 'high life' - I can't think of anything more boring that being part of the 'social pages' crowd. I could only put up with 'the scene' if I loved spending time with him.

I'm different to both you and Emjay. I wouldn't have to love him, or be attracted to him. I'd just have to find him tolerable.

I see it as a job, like any other. I don't need to love or be attracted to my boss. I just need to be able to tolerate them. It's a nice bonus if I also like and respect them.
 

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:frown1: This thread is veering off course and now I'm helping...


I'm different to both you and Emjay. I wouldn't have to love him, or be attracted to him. I'd just have to find him tolerable.

I see it as a job, like any other. I don't need to love or be attracted to my boss. I just need to be able to tolerate them. It's a nice bonus if I also like and respect them.

The more I read what you wrote the more confused I am about what you meant.

You can hang out with someone you don't wish to spend your life with.
You can sleep with someone you don't want to spend your life with.
You can have some kind of short term relationship with someone you do not wish to spend your life with (sugardaddy).

If the "job" were acceptable and "boss" were tolerable you would make it a long term arrangement even if there was no love involved? :confused:
even if you were not even attracted to him?
 

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The more I read what you wrote the more confused I am about what you meant.

You can hang out with someone you don't wish to spend your life with.
You can sleep with someone you don't want to spend your life with.
You can have some kind of short term relationship with someone you do not wish to spend your life with (sugardaddy).

If the "job" were acceptable and "boss" were tolerable you would make it a long term arrangement even if there was no love involved? :confused:
even if you were not even attracted to him?

I would be quite happy to enter into a 'relationship' with a sugardaddy who I was not attracted to or in love with. Whether it would be short term or long term depends on your definition. I would be fine with quite a few years, but after the first 6 months to a year there would need to be a 'get out of jail free' clause in the contract somewhere, in case I met someone I genuinely wanted to spend the rest of my life with.