are women's roles changing in relationships?

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    In my expieriance and observation it just seems women are being the dicks in failing relationships. Before the beginning of last year, in alot of relationships it was the men doing the cheating, treating their partner like shit etc. i could give examples but there really isnt a need.

    lately, ive seen this change to women leading men along for the attention or for their own sick thrill, cheat, leave people for no good reason or just stay with people they dont love for selfish reasons, namely so they have someone to comfort them and love them, despite not loving them.

    from these relationships, ive seen guys become alot more submissive in relationships. they seem to be hit far harder then i have ever seen. ive seen men change complettely from these relationships, including just before xmas a family friend (whom i was not too aware of) kill himself due to (as far as i am aware) his wife leaving him with kids etc.

    Has anyone else noticed this? am i just seeing things very differently due to the fact i had a sad end of a relationship? Have women always been like this and ive just randomly seen both parties act like this in different spells?
     
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    This has been going on for about 5 years now. Remember when you first saw the young girls driving around the boys.........
     
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    erm..................
     
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    I see the change more as an equalisation. For a long long time it was mainly men who had the upper hand and got their cake and ate it.
     
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    women are more able to take care of themselfs this days. With women making more money & having less kids. Its easy for women to find sex also. Keep them barefooted & pregnet is the answer.
     
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    becuase i love to colour in.....

    im trying not too. the reaspn for this thread is so i can see if it is more general than people i know.
     
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    I think your point, or question, was it because I just ended a sad relationship, is the answer. I think when we go through something, we can more clearly what's going on, and too often we paint our experience on others and their relationship(s).

    I'm not sure if 'women' are getting to be more like 'men' but keep in mind, not all 'men' are cheaters, blah, blah, blah, but then neither are all 'women' stay at home barefoot and pregnant (HA) wives...

    hope you're feeling better though, it sucks a break up.
     
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    nope, i actually think younger men are more misogynistic than they used to be.

    listen to song lyrics. things that hit the charts are a good barometer of popular attitude. bitch & ho.

    and it seems to me that, if anything, women have lost power in relationships, by ceding to the pressure to be uber-sexual exhibitionists.
    also, modern porn and the internet has made women feel like freaks for not liking anal, facials, gangbangs, etc.

    no offence, mate, but you're all of 19...you've not seen how any other generation acted at your age.
     
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    ao your saying every generation was like this?
     
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    no, i'm saying it keeps changing.

    but, from my perspective at least, men of your generation is more open minded when it comes to women's careers but also more misogynistic about women's sexuality & relationships. the comparison being between my experiences of the world at 19y/o and how i percieve youth culture today.
     
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    yeh comparing our culture by looking at mainly rap lyrics judging from the bitch and ho comment is incredibly tunnel visioned.
    Primarily when the people who actually buy singles that influence chart succes are all in the middle teen bracket and not late teen to early twenties.
    I to an extent agree with the thread poster, having just come out of a relationship where I was treated like shit, cheated on and the girl in question had a new boyfriend 3 days later and threw the worlds biggest bitch fit when i wasnt happy for her and her new amazing life.
    saying that men can and are still dicks to women, if anything i think its now 50/50 i think the reason its shocking/ men are getting more hurt is because its a new thing for a lot of guys , women have enjoyed the curtain of guys are dicks for a long time so guys let their guard down hugely with women thinking they could never hurt them.
    I for one took a long time to get over my last gf, for that exact reason
     
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    It's been happening as long as I can remember. My girl friends have never been as innocent as they might think. I don't really know if there have been changes, it's probably just more out in the open these days.
     
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    individual experience is not the same as a general trend...to assume so would be tunnel vision in extremis.

    there have, and will always be, members of both genders who behave appallingly.

    there has always been cheating by both genders.
     
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    I don't know why men buy into relationships at all. It works for a minority of men ime.

    I learn't today that one of my best mates has been shat on from a very great height by his wife of 13 years.

    You have to get to know yourself, Littlelemon, but my advice would be to fuck everything you can and not look for any type of bigger relationship for at least another eight years.
     
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    there are some very obvious changes.
    my grandmother was of the generation where girls were taught not to sleep with him so that he would marry you...anything to get some! why buy the cow if you can drink the milk for free?

    girls of my daughter's generation are bombarded with the message that you need ''101 sex tips to drive him wild!'' to make him want to commit to you. there's the distinct messag that you give it to him soon and give it to him good before someone else does.

    in both roles i see game playing and not being true to yourself.
     
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    society and it's perpetual pushing of coupledom.

    are you single? awww, don't worry, i'm sure you'll meet someone soon!

    i'm not sure about the promiscuity being as healthy as you think but i'm sure that this pressure to be part of a couple is as unhealthy.
     
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    IMO gender roles and expectations are in a weird place. Some people still want to live by their presumed correctness for society.

    I don't anymore, if I ever did.. I either like people or I don't.
     
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