are women's roles changing in relationships?

[nicenycdick]

What I have seen is this: The rules change...but there are always rules. Agendas change, power shifts, public perceptions alter...but the goals of society rule us all. When it was beneficial for us all to be married and have 2 kids...we did it. When economics dictated that more women should be working...they did. When liberation fulfills a societal need...we become free. I wish it was all because we really wanted all of it...but I sense that it is more because it fulfills some larger need.

 

[dolfette]

maybe one day we'll get to the point where were just people with some differences.

 

[D_Andreas Sukov]

this threads getting kinda deep....

ladies, is my cock big?

"get this engrained in your head....."

 

[siempie]

Yes I have noticed the changes I think it's shit. Heres how I see it.

women have been complaining about how some men were treating some women.

The new generation of men grew up mostly amongst women (school teacher, mom,) and less men. Also, the media have had their fair share of men bashing. This indoctrinated the new generation of men into treating women differently then before, e.g. with less of the nasty things you described.

Because of this, men got more aggressive in relationship and women gladly took the opportunity to screw us over. Now they are the nasty ones.

This lead me to 1 conclusion only.

You be the nasty one or else she will be.

 

[dolfette]

 

[Belly_Dancer]

I agree with everything Dolfette has said.

 

[D_Andreas Sukov]

Yes I have noticed the changes I think it's shit. Heres how I see it.

women have been complaining about how some men were treating some women.

The new generation of men grew up mostly amongst women (school teacher, mom,) and less men. Also, the media have had their fair share of men bashing. This indoctrinated the new generation of men into treating women differently then before, e.g. with less of the nasty things you described.

Because of this, men got more aggressive in relationship and women gladly took the opportunity to screw us over. Now they are the nasty ones.

This lead me to 1 conclusion only.

You be the nasty one or else she will be.

i agree with some aspects of your post, but be nasty? thats just spiteful and stupid

 

[Ethyl]

Because of this, men got more aggressive in relationship and women gladly took the opportunity to screw us over. Now they are the nasty ones.

Bitter much?

Narrowing relationships down to role-playing is destructive and silly. They're whatever you make of them. I find men and women are much more passive aggressive in relationships now and it's irritating. I'd rather have an honest, open relationship than live with someone who aims for the politically and culturally correct upper hand because they're afraid of not getting what they want by simply being honest with themselves and with others.

This lead me to 1 conclusion only.

You be the nasty one or else she will be.

You're a perfect example of the problem.

 

[dolfette]

if you consistently get fucked over in a relationship then, same as women who always end up with abusive men, there's something wrong with the way you select partners.

the world of full of nice people & shitheads, in both genders. if you're only pairing up with the shitheads then you need to quit pairing! at least until you've done enough self improvement to break that cycle.

it is pathetic to switch to being the arsehole as a solution.

bear in mind that, in the uk alone, two women a week die from domestic violence...this is not a society where women are queens. this is a society where we've got a long way to go before ''mutual respect'' is given the importance it warrants as a solution to our ills.

if both genders could consistently respect the other, as a group and as individuals, then nobody would be getting fucked over.

I agree with everything Dolfette has said.

always reassuring when that happens!

 

[Closet Donkey]

I see the change more as an equalisation. For a long long time it was mainly men who had the upper hand and got their cake and ate it.

I agree.

I have many female acquaintances who string along a few men at anyone time, and treat each very badly. To assume that women in the past were all angels is a little naive.

 

[D_Andreas Sukov]

i never assumed women were angels. what i was saying is, that the disruptive party, or prick if you will, was usually men in a relationship. now i just saw women playing the role more.

 

[helgaleena]

The 'power behind the throne' role for feisty females is less necessary nowadays than in earlier times, as blatant strongmindedness in females is no longer as threatening to males as once it was. Mental health incarcerations for 'hysteria' (lit: fumes from the womb) are way fewer.

It is true, societal trends are largely dictated by economic necessities of species survival, and if you select for a shortage of either sex, as is done via female infanticide, it has consequences in other areas.

Serious enough for you yet, lemon?

All that noted, it really sounds like you are in the UK and it would not be the same at all in Qatar or Beijing or Victoria. Or Wisconsin! But since I stay away from as many other humans as I can when not online, I couldn't tell you.

 

[Drifterwood]

the world of full of nice people & shitheads, in both genders. if you're only pairing up with the shitheads then you need to quit pairing! at least until you've done enough self improvement to break that cycle.

if both genders could consistently respect the other, as a group and as individuals, then nobody would be getting fucked over.

These two options are contrary. Take gender out and respect the person who merits respect.

The truth is that our society allows women to fuck men over, so some do, like the bitch who has just ruined my friend's life. Correct. She keeps the house, half his inheritance and most of his salary until the kids are grown up which will be 16 years. She is a rubbish mother, but that counts for shit. And why is she just walking away? because she feels she can do better sexually. Correct.

So, I say again, be very very careful Littlelemon. I wouldn't advise any guy to marry before 30, but even then you just get a little more owned than you were already. The State takes half what you earn and if you then have kids, you can be strung up for most of what you have left. This is the freedom of the 21stC for str8 men.

 

[SpiceFromIndia]

the stats: Women cheat more than men | The Sun |News


The most interesting one : Think men are the unfaithful sex? A study shows WOMEN are the biggest cheats - they're just better at lying about it | Mail Online


6 of the girls i know cheated on their bfs. 2 men that i know cheated. I know almost equal number of men and women and have good terms with them.

 

[SpiceFromIndia]

this thread is very interesting: http://www.lpsg.org/164502-women-share-tales-bad-sex.html

 

[Wish-4-8]

this thread is very interesting: http://www.lpsg.org/164502-women-share-tales-bad-sex.html

OK, I just looked at the thread. Whats your point for posting the link in this thread? Not one tale of woe or cheating.

 

[Wish-4-8]

To the OP. The only thing that has changed is your perception. As you get older, that perception will keep changing as you see more, live more, are hurt by more, etc.

Its like asking, "What color is that wall?"
Your answer may be, "white". But to an experianced artists, it eggshell.
Same wall, just a different perspective. This shit will keep happening for the rest of your life. Same facts, same situation, just a different way of looking at it based on new info you acquired just living life.

 

[dolfette]

stats posted...from the sun? and the mail?

good grief!

 

[dolfette]

These two options are contrary. Take gender out and respect the person who merits respect.

no they aren't.
i said IF both genders CONSISTENTLY respected each other.
in that improbable scenario everyone would be behaving respectfully and thus merit respect.

 

[Drifterwood]

So you are just talking shit then.