"Artists" who do Commercials and Ads

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  1. Flashy

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    is it just me, or does this really bother you as well?

    you hear all these musicians and actors/movie stars etc who claim they are "artists", but then do ads for all sorts of companies and products etc...

    i have no problem with musicians, actors, movie stars etc. making a fortune for their talent through the means of their art...

    such as:

    -big salary for a movie/TV show etc.
    -musicians doing concerts/selling CD's/merchandise

    but when you see all these "artists" actively whoring it out for a big check for a random company, it comes off as really cheesy...

    some stars restrict themselves to "voiceovers" like George Clooney in Budweiser,etc

    others go all out in campaigns...

    and then musicians sell their music for commercials...that might be a little more forgivable, but not much...

    but when U2 the band actively advertised for Blackberry and Apple...it just became too much.


    what do you guys think?

    is this annoying? does it detract from the artists credibility at all?
     
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    There's a reason why it's called "selling out".
     
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    It's the lure of cash that calls out to the Artists.............did you know that the voice over for the NBC Nightly News is done by Michael Douglas?

    I don't think it distracts much from their artistic endeavors. And it must work "Marketing Wise", or there wouldn't be companies willing to throw their money at them. Does Federer being paid by Nike to be their living billboard detract from the artistry he displays on the tennis court?
     
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    There's also a reason--and, to my mind, even more hypocritically--why so many American ones do it only in overseas markets.
     
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    lol..true.

    but there are different degrees to it...the true "artist" accepts no money for his art. i believe the original punk rock ethos was similar to that.

    but over the years, there have been some bands and actors etc. who had alot of integrity with it.

    Zeppelin never allowed their music to be used in ads (until they finally sold out with Cadillac)

    i have to admire Russell Crowe for taking issue with the folks like George Clooney though.

    Crowe is kind of a dick...but at least he "gets" it.

    i mean, Clooney makes 10s of millions for his roles, in salary, back end participation, producing etc...does he really need to do a voiceover for Budweiser? or commercials for Nespresso? Omega, or Martini?

    to me, the commercial really "cheapens" movie stardom.

    it is hard to imagine the classic old time stars doing commercials which were looked down upon.
     
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    yes, Nick, very true...because it "cheapens" a movie star.

    which is why it is really lame...when Brad Pitt did a heineken commercial here...and Clooney does budweiser voiceovers here, and Morgan freeman does voiceovers here.

    apparently they do not mind being ad whores overseas...it is just here at home where they get embarassed about it
     
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    An hour perusing the results of a Google image search will reward you with dozens of stars from the 20s through the 50s doing print ads for "complexion bars" (soap), cigarettes and the like. It's nothing new at all.

    Celebrity endorsement must work with some people on some level, but I gotta say it's never worked with me except in the reverse.
     
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    Japanese media ads are infamous for this.
     
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    I couldn't care less. I judge [a] musician(s) solely on their music and nothing else. Sure, it says something about their character and personality, but I don't know nor have any intention of knowing these people personally so it doesn't affect me in the least.
     
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    I know, right? Here it seems these stars are all about Green, there, they're all about green.
     
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    i agree with you...i know audrey hepburn did some stuff overseas...

    but like you said, it really repels me...and the ones who are doing it more and mroe over here, and more blatantly are major turnoffs...lok at Catherine Zeta-Jones for Tmobile...perhaps as no surprise her career has also gone down the tubes since Chicago.
     
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    yeah, there is a wacky site called "Japander" (jap - pander) that has all of them
     
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    indeed!

    it is funny how most of them blather on about the environment, or "the corporations" but they have no trouble cashing a check from these "evil" companies

    it is funny how both George Clooney and Susan Sarandon have no trouble railing against the unfairness faced by people in the 3rd world and their exploitation by the west, but then Clooney cashes a check from "Nespresso" and Sarandon cashes a check from "Stouffers"...both of whom are owned by Nestle...which has an appalling track record in the 3rd world, with everything from child labor to price fixing etc.
     
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    There really are two separate issues here, I think.

    Allowing the licensing of one's artistic work to sell something completely unrelated (and probably unappreciated by the artist in question, like Led Zep's Cadillac ads) is just greedy and diminishes the artistic work itself.

    Product endorsement ads (like Joan Crawford and Pepsi to pick an obvious one) trade on the celebrity's name to entice others to follow. This isn't as popular as it once was here in the US, but it still happens, because of the obvious manipulation involved. Today people like to make up their own minds, thank you very much.

    The area where this is still big business is in clothing. Designers routinely send racks of clothing to big names so that they can be seen wearing them, and not just on the red carpet. Nothing as loathsome as Ed Hardy (and its evil "upscale" twin Christian Audigier) could possibly have become so universal otherwise.

    Then there's that whole business of entertainers coming out with ancillary products unrelated to their "art" like perfumes by Jennifer Lopez, Beyonce or Brittney Spears or clothing lines being "designed" by Victoria Beckham or Justin Timberlake.
     
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    Admit it, Bbucko. You'll buy anything endorsed by the Olsen twins.
     
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    i have to say, DiCaprio takes the hypocrisy cake...

    he is mr. "green" and mr pro-environment...then does ads for Suzuki SUV's...LOL

    what a pile of crap.
     
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    who wouldn't?!?!?!?!:biggrin1:
     
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    And, of course, Absolut vodka's been recruiting artists for decades to make their potato juice chic and cool.
     
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    I do have a concern (it isn't a problem) of artistes (for that is the correct word) for the assumption these peaople have that they get exceptionally rich because of their art (it is all marketing) and then belive it is because they work harder than us mortals and therefore deserve it. Those the gods wish to destroy make into idols first.
     
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